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Principia Discordia => Aneristic Illusions => Topic started by: Bird Daughter on June 24, 2017, 09:28:28 pm

Title: Spooks!
Post by: Bird Daughter on June 24, 2017, 09:28:28 pm
(I am new to the traditional forum format, so if I am doing anything wrong then please let me know)

What do you think of the ideas of Max Stirner? I figured you guys would like him because he is a strong advocate of disobeying authority and acting in your own interest, AKA 'doing whatever the shit you want'.

Links
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The Ego And His Own
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/max-stirner-the-ego-and-his-own

The Unique And Its Property (A new translation of the ego and his own that's easier to read but no one likes because it says 'phantasms' instead of 'spooks') [PDF]
https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/06/24/the-unique-and-its-property/

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Title: Re: Spooks!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on June 25, 2017, 12:35:55 am
Hey new person!

There is an Introductions thread around here somewhere, but I wouldn't worry too much about standing on formality. Feel free to poke around and comment on whatever threads tickle your fancy.
Title: Re: Spooks!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 25, 2017, 12:36:15 am
What QG said.

Title: Re: Spooks!
Post by: Bird Daughter on June 25, 2017, 02:55:01 am
Thanks for being so welcoming, I was kind of worried that with my first post being semi-political I would be seen as a pain.
Title: Re: Spooks!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 25, 2017, 03:10:15 am
Thanks for being so welcoming, I was kind of worried that with my first post being semi-political I would be seen as a pain.

You are.

But we're worse.  We are in fact bad people.  Everyone thinks that's a joke, or braggadocio, but it isn't.  It's sort of what would happen if you took the cast of The Real World and walled them all up together for 15 years.

So you're fine.
Title: Re: Spooks!
Post by: Junkenstein on June 25, 2017, 11:57:20 pm
Thanks for being so welcoming, I was kind of worried that with my first post being semi-political I would be seen as a pain.

It's not outright Nazism, which helps a bit.

Not familiar with the chap, will have a dig and see what's interesting.

3 points for new subject matter, at least for me. Kudos to you.
Title: Re: Spooks!
Post by: Junkenstein on June 25, 2017, 11:59:37 pm
For reference bird daughter, this is the part where you say something abhorrent and I retake my vow of silence.
Title: Re: Spooks!
Post by: Bird Daughter on June 26, 2017, 12:17:12 am
Thanks for being so welcoming, I was kind of worried that with my first post being semi-political I would be seen as a pain.

It's not outright Nazism, which helps a bit.

Not familiar with the chap, will have a dig and see what's interesting.

3 points for new subject matter, at least for me. Kudos to you.

Not even close to Nazism, most people interpret his writing as a kind of individualistic form of left anarchism (post-left if you're going to pick of the nits).
Title: Re: Spooks!
Post by: Cain on June 26, 2017, 03:33:22 am
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I appreciate Stirner more as an influence than as a thinker in and of himself.  Rational egoism is very easy to claim, by a devious enough mind, as a reason for almost anything if one's self-interest is broadly enough defined, making it somewhat useless as a concept.

I do share his scepticism regarding social institutions, but I also think he doesn't take it far enough, by stopping with the individual ego.  I also think that while those concepts are certainly false, their outcomes are, at least in some cases, more preferable than anything that would come out of his own prescriptions.