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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8000761.stm

Here was his outline, yeah he wanted an African union to rival the EU model, which would have included currency and nationalisation of strategic mineral resources, oil, cobalat, uranium and gold, he also wanted food strategy and pooling to make Africa food secure.

It was ambitious and I still hope to see it one day.

Now imagine European leaders thought process to what this competitor would mean or for the US who buys on the cheap from there.

If similar was proposed for the middle east imagine what that would represent.

Suddenly the destabilising games make sense

Those were some lofty objectives. At this point in time, are there any African governments showing any interest in implementing any of them?

Now, this next question is off-topic. And, I'm pretty sure I already know the answer. But, I have to ask: How is the general public in the UK reacting to our POSOTUS threatening your country's sovereignty over the Falkland Islands?

(Mrs. Mythos talks to our niece, who lives in Hull, several times a week. But, we haven't yet heard her take on this subject.)

Perhaps its just a conspiracy theory in the US so, to every nation outside that has been on the other end of it, its painfully transparent.

I've given some thought to your point of view, and come to realize that my "The Deep State Oligarchy Conspiracy" isn't as amusing as I had originally thought.

I'm sure Libya wasnt a pleasant place to be, and he was a dictator, but the country had universities and international airport, better rights for women then they have now and good access to medical care. I wont gloss over the atrocities, the guy treated the darker skinned africans like slaves, eliminated his competition.

But none of those things are the reason he is dead, it was for championing a single currency for Africa.

I was unaware Gaddaif, or anyone else, had attempted to organize the creation of a new, single African currency. Nor did I know this idea was opposed by any Western governments. However, I was well aware that back in 1979, no US bank would exchange Libyan dinar for American dollars. And, I don't believe the US was alone in that regard. So, I can understand why Gaddaif would have been keenly interested in establishing an African currency similar to the Euro.

How about the open meddling and destabilisation on record instead of conspiracy theory.
Just one example, one of the very first, the CIA was new to this at the time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat
Since then its only gotten meaner and better at this game.

Yes, Uncle Sugar has a long recorded history of interfering in other governments' governing.

Still, my recent thinking about "The Deep State Oligarchy Conspiracy" is about how Uncle Sugar got this way. Most members of the Republicult™, and many members of the general public, do not understand, or do not really care about the disproportionate influence our mostly shadowy oligarchy has on our country, and our lives. And so, it amuses me to label this particular influence a conspiracy. But, if you disagree with me about this, I'm fine with it. After all, I am easily amused.

But while we are on conspiracy
Its not just limited to the US, the EU do it to, in Africa. Beloved Muammar was assassinated under the direction of Clinton and Nicolas Sarkozy to cover up his dirty work, which he eventually got prosecuted for.

It never occurred to me to use the words "beloved" and "Muammar" in the same sentence. Still, Gaddafi was killed in 2011, and my time in Libya was back in 1979. But, no doubt a lot had changed in those three decades.

While I was there, for a couple of weeks in the spring of 1979, the Three Mile Island accident occurred. But, I didn't find out about it until a week later, when I was handed a newspaper on my flight out of the country. But, without being too long winded about it, I did not perceive Libya as being anyone's "happy place." The US embassy was in Tripoli at that time. And, that was the old embassy that was attacked later that same year. Now, back then, Tripoli was only about 5% the size it is today. However, to me, the most surprising thing about it was that there were no young men on the streets. When I asked about that, if I received an answer at all, it was a mumble about the young men being "in the army." So, in reality, Tripoli was close to being a ghost town. And, I remember that Gaddafi had plastered his image on huge billboards on the east and west sides of the town. Now, if you picture Douglas MacArthur with more medals, but without the corncob pipe, it will give you a pretty good idea about how Muammar presented himself to his loving public. I would have liked to have taken a photo of one of those billboards. But, I had been warned ahead of time, if I tried to take a camera into Libya, it would have been confiscated at the airport upon arrival.

Last, the way I remember it, Gaddafi was shot by a Libyan national immediately after his capture. And, at the time, it was never even hinted that the US, or France for that matter, were behind the murder. And again, the way I remember it, the "international community" was outraged, and wanted the Libyan national to be charged with murder. But, of course, the international community had no legal standing in the matter. So, I'm not claiming that Clinton and Sarkosy were not somehow behind Gaddafi's murder. It's just that this conspiracy is completely new to me.

The US has strategic interests in keeping the middle east destabilised and not too friendly, Israel is incredibly useful for that goal.

It's going to take me some time to respond to your entire post.

First off, I admit your point of view startled me. It never occurred to me that my government's continuous, unconditional support of Israel is in any way a conscious policy. I've always thought of it as being what it is because of the lack of will of successive presidential administrations to rein in Israel's all too obvious apartheid and excesses.

Still, I don't doubt that 'Merica's mighty military-industrial complex (MIC) is perfectly willing to destabilize the entire planet just to make a buck. And, I don't doubt that 'Merica's mighty fossil fuel industry is just as greedy.

And so, I thank you for enlightening me to the possibility of there being yet another conspiracy out there to be exposed. I'm now suspecting that "the deep state" our right-wingers complain about is not at all a left-wing cabal embedded within our government. Rather, it appears to mainly exists outside of our government, and merely uses it as a tool. Further, it's now looking to me that what I've recently recognized as being the 'Merican oligarchy has actually been active for a long, long time. So, I'm thinking of labeling this one "The Deep State Oligarchy Conspiracy."

That video has become extremely popular. And, its choruses of "Making Israel great again," and "They ordered you to die for Israel," caught my attention.

Now, I admit, I'm uncertain how the majority of European governments, and their citizens are currently reacting to public criticism of Israel. But, in 'Merica, with the exception of our Senator Bernie Sanders, I can't think of anyone who dares to hint that they're unenthusiastic about giving less than their unconditional support to Israel, without being labeled "Antisemitic" with a big capital "A," or worse. However, if their public criticism is very carefully worded, it just might be remotely possible for a well-respected public figure to get away with criticizing Benjamin Netanyahu. After all, the International Criminal Court (ICC) has issued a warrant for his arrest for allegedly committing war crimes, and crimes against humanity, in the Gaza Strip. But, I wouldn't count on even that being acceptable in today's 'Merica.

So, in what I once believed was "The land of the free, and the home of the brave," I find it ironic that this video is popular for criticism an ordinary 'Merican could not publicly utter without the probability of facing serious consequences.

Definitely not above that, his betrayal of his Christian followers feels baffling they ever thought he was anything but a vice pit but I guess picking a fight with the pope was that final too far point

I never doubted you.

Is he the anti christ? no. Is he Caligula, yes, if Caligula was also somehow the horse

Well ... is your conviction strong enough to resist the temptation to troll self-righteous, Bible-thumping MAGAts about their venerated POSOTUS being the Antichrist, when the opportunity presents itself?

[MAGA Asks: Is Trump The Anti-Christ?]

MAGA Asks: Is Trump The Anti-Christ?

"Posting a graphic of Trump as Jesus seems to be a bridge too far"

I think I know the answer to this one.

[THE BOOK]

'Tis the 27^th day of the Season of Discord in the Year of Our Lady of Discord 3192, and officially time to not give a damn about, be indifferent to, be disinterested in, etc., celebrating the Discosloth Whollyday.

Discordia's seasonal Sloth Days, or The Days of the Sloth, are wholly appropriate whollydays, as next to nobody celebrates any of the sacrosanct Discordian Calendar's holydays, that are officially recorded in THE BOOK, our very own literatus immoralis, titled the Principia Discordia, Loompanics "Yellow Cover" combined 4th and 5th edition, either.

Carry on.

Hail Eris!

All Hail Discordia!

[Trump says Pam Bondi to join private sector after ouster; Todd Blanche to serve as acting attorney general – live]

Another one bites the dust!

Trump says Pam Bondi to join private sector after ouster; Todd Blanche to serve as acting attorney general – live

"Trump was reportedly frustrated with Bondi over the justice department's handling of the Epstein files"

So, 'reportedly,' the POSOTUS was frustrated enough over the handling of the Trump-Epstein Files to fire another sycophant. And, to the surprise of nobody, this one is female too.

[Bruce Springsteen blasts Trump admin as he kicks off tour in Minneapolis]

Bruce Springsteen blasts Trump admin as he kicks off tour in Minneapolis

As per this article:

""We are here in celebration and defense of our American ideals," Springsteen said. "Democracy, our Constitution and our sacred American promise, the America that I love, the America that I've written about for 50 years, that's been a beacon of hope and liberty around the world, is currently in the hands of a corrupt, incompetent, racist, reckless, and treasonous administration.""

Now, that's what I call an accurate description of the Turd Reich.

Some people simply can not handle constructive criticism:

Trump calls for MAGA boycott against 'loser' rock legend minutes after Fox segment

As per this article the POSOTUS posted:

""Bad, and very boring singer, Bruce Springsteen, who looks like a dried up prune who has suffered greatly from the work of a really bad plastic surgeon, has long had a horrible and incurable case of Trump Derangement Syndrome, sometimes referred to as TDS," Trump posted on Truth Social a little over four minutes later.

"The guy is a total loser who spews hate against a President who won a Landslide Election, including the popular vote, all Seven Swing States, and 86% of the Counties across America. Under Sleepy Joe and the Dems, our Country was DEAD, and now we have the 'hottest' Country, by far, anywhere in the World," Trump added. "MAGA SHOULD BOYCOTT HIS OVERPRICED CONCERTS, WHICH SUCK. SAVE YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY. AMERICA IS BACK!!! President DJT.""

I don't doubt "The Boss" is laughing his ass off over the POSOTUS response.

[Bruce Springsteen blasts Trump admin as he kicks off tour in Minneapolis]

Bruce Springsteen blasts Trump admin as he kicks off tour in Minneapolis

As per this article:

""We are here in celebration and defense of our American ideals," Springsteen said. "Democracy, our Constitution and our sacred American promise, the America that I love, the America that I've written about for 50 years, that's been a beacon of hope and liberty around the world, is currently in the hands of a corrupt, incompetent, racist, reckless, and treasonous administration.""

Now, that's what I call an accurate description of the Turd Reich.

[Trump says he's 'glad' about Robert Mueller's death as foes pile on]

Trump says he's 'glad' about Robert Mueller's death as foes pile on

"Amid sober tributes to the former FBI director, President Trump wrote: "I'm glad he's dead. He can no longer hurt innocent people!""

Again, as per this article:

"Trump reacted to Mueller's passing in a March 21 post on Truth Social that said: "Robert Mueller just died. Good, I'm glad he's dead. He can no longer hurt innocent people! President DONALD J. TRUMP.""

And, that's why the title of this topic is "Money Can't Buy Class - Exhibit A: The POSOTUS".

Oh hey there is an introductions thread. I just never found it till now. Guess I ought to have looked sooner.

Too late?

https://youtu.be/pgIR3GU_5sw

Actually, you got it right the first time. The latest 'Introductions thread' is pinned above.

But, your post did reminded me that I saw Elvis Costello in concert back in '78 when he was on his 2nd US Tour.

[Chris Hayes: "Every Once In A While, You Just Have To Remind Yourself The President Of The United States Is A Sociopath"]

Chris Hayes: "Every Once In A While, You Just Have To Remind Yourself The President Of The United States Is A Sociopath"

As per this article:

"CHRIS HAYES, MS NOW HOST: Good evening from New York. I'm Chris Hayes. You know, every once in a while, you just have to remind yourself that the president of the United States is a sociopath, or at the very least, being charitable here, he just can't help himself from acting like one."

I don't have Real Clear Politics bookmarked in my "Politics" category, as I know it to be a deep red, Partisan MAGAtry Media (PMM) outlet. So, it surprised me that they even posted this article, with this title, on their website. Still, the author of this article wrote it using only 100% Chris Hayes and POSOTUS quotations. But, although the author did not add his own thoughts, and/or comments to his article, the comments from the Real Clear Politics readership clearly reveal the MAGAtry mindset.