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Apple Zone / Re: Snoop... Lion? I don't know man, I just don't know...
« on: August 03, 2012, 12:20:36 pm »
short version: studio tricks, heavy on the delay.

Ok in that case it actually makes sense to call the shit I like to listen to "psydub" :)

Example Ott - Blumenkraft - 02 - Somersettler (if you're in a hurry skip the first minute of intro, if you're not in a hurry, the drop is much better if you don't. if you're *really* not in a hurry get the whole album it's fucking amazing) be sure to stick around for the sitar at 3:12 :D

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Techmology and Scientism / Re: Privacy Thread
« on: August 03, 2012, 11:39:54 am »
Quote from: PAESIOR
Even then, I'm going to have to automate posting text as images (and work out how Facebook handle thumbnails and images to determine whether that's a useful thing to open up to others, with control over the life of the image) to make it harder to crawl and build a profile of what I like to talk about... and figure out other little things to make it slightly less creepy.

Fuck yeah thanks for reminding me!! There was an app browser plugin type of thing that did pretty much exactly this ... except better.

It works for all "social" things including FB and Twitter, but also GMail and G+ and quite possibly for just everything.

It transparently replaces everything you post with a special shortlink to encrypted data. The encrypted data is stored on someone's server but it's encrypted. However YOU control who gets the key and who doesn't. You can put the key in the link so everyone who can see the link can read the data, or you can selectively give out the key to friends via other channels to keep even more control. Additionally there was a way to change or delete the data after you posted it.

The big advantage is that you are in control and you remain in control of that data, and mostly that the plaintext data NEVER hits the servers of GMail, FB, Twitter, etc.

For people that also have this browser plugin, the shortlink is replaced transparently by the decrypted text if they have the key. For people without the plugin, they can simply click the link and be prompted for the key (if it's not present in the link itself).

I just forgot what the app was called. Sorry. I'll get back on that later :)

Is it called "Scramble!"? This thing: http://freehaven.net/anonbib/papers/pets2011/p12-beato.pdf ? Or... http://cups.cs.cmu.edu/soups/2012/proceedings/a11_Fahl.pdf that one. If not, those are pretty interesting anyway.

Hmm this one? https://scrambls.com/

It looks slightly different, apparently this one replaces online comments with scrambled characters, whereas the app that I saw replaced them with a link to scrambled data. BUt yeah something like that anyway.

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Techmology and Scientism / Re: Privacy Thread
« on: August 03, 2012, 11:33:22 am »
Given that the have the processing power to do that with Facebook, it couldn't be difficult to tie that to Google searches and tie that across multiple social sites/forums etc.

Which of course means they have dossiers on all of us... including this POST!!

Indeed. You can laugh but the NSA whistleblowers that have come forward almost literally admitted as much:

* Whistleblower Binney says the NSA has dossiers on nearly every US citizen

* "For years, government lawyers have been arguing that our case is too secret for the courts to consider, despite the mounting confirmation of widespread mass illegal surveillance of ordinary people," said EFF Legal Director Cindy Cohn. "Now we have three former NSA officials confirming the basic facts. Neither the Constitution nor federal law allow the government to collect massive amounts of communications and data of innocent Americans and fish around in it in case it might find something interesting.

* William Binney, a former technical director at the NSA, said during a panel discussion that NSA Director Gen. Keith Alexander was playing a “word game” and that the NSA was indeed collecting e-mails, Twitter writings, internet searches and other data belonging to Americans and indexing it.

“Unfortunately, once the software takes in data, it will build profiles on everyone in that data,” he said. “You can simply call it up by the attributes of anyone you want and it’s in place for people to look at.”


* From the story about the Utah datacentre again: According to one unnamed former NSA official,  “Everybody’s a target; everybody with communication is a target.” -- this is all part of the same scandal.

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In the process—and for the first time since Watergate and the other scandals of the Nixon administration—the NSA has turned its surveillance apparatus on the US and its citizens. It has established listening posts throughout the nation to collect and sift through billions of email messages and phone calls, whether they originate within the country or overseas. It has created a supercomputer of almost unimaginable speed to look for patterns and unscramble codes.




... so, yes. What used to be literally hilarious tinfoil hat paranoia, is what they're actually doing for real now.

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Apple Zone / Re: Truths Which May Not Be Self-Evident.
« on: August 02, 2012, 11:56:19 pm »
:?

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Apple Zone / Re: Snoop... Lion? I don't know man, I just don't know...
« on: August 02, 2012, 11:54:51 pm »
Still would like to know:

If Jimmy Cliff counts as reggae, I do not care for the sound.

In the context of what the music currently is, early reggae (and especially Jimmy Cliff) was more dub than anything else. I file him under the "better actor than musician/singer/rapper" category, right next to Wil Smith and Nelly.

What's the difference between dub and reggae?

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I knew there was some sort of connection between information and energy, similarly how there's one between mass and energy. It's also used in some (ridiculously high) upper-bound estimates on either computer processing power (actual physical limits to Moore's Law) or data storage or something.

Going to check those articles out, cool :)

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OK done with reading :) BTW that poster, I was reading with a zoomed in browser (easier on the eyes as it's nearly 1am here), so I didn't see the whole image at once:



:lulz:

Anyway, in full, I agree that it's darkly funny. I think I've heard or seen it before, or maybe something very similar. In what way did it cause a shitstorm?



And if you ask often enough, SOMEONE is eventually going to say yes, and you'll get your rocks off without having to be a shitneck about it.

We had this ugly little bastard at Ft Drum that would do exactly that.  Hit the bar, ask every girl in the place for some loving.  If the girl wasn't interested, he'd just move on to the next.

He never went home alone, and in fact usually left early with someone.  Being bold & forthright about things can pay off, as soon as you find someone that's there for the exact same reason you are there.

That's not PUA, of course.  He employed no "tricks".  He would sit next to a girl, strike up a conversation, and then flat out ask if she wanted to go somewhere and get her nasty on.  He had learned, you see, that bit of knowledge that evades the PUA-tards:  Women like sex, too, and tricks are not required.

But PUA tards are not capable of seeing that, because they view women as conquests to attain, not human beings with the same drives as any other human being.

Actually that's incorrect. I read one of those "pick up guides" over a decade ago, and one of the first things it said was if you want to pick up women, you need to get out there, try often and not be afraid to fail often. There was even a story in it about a guy with pretty much that same "technique". The other thing it said was indeed that women like sex too, and everybody wants to have a good time. Soon after that it started with the fake psychology and bullshit stories and "tricks" and all that. I never really bought into those. But I dunno, I guess I'm just good at taking the right parts with a bucket of salt and sifting out the actual bits of good info (actually pretty easy: it's the parts you actually can believe) cause believe it or not, at the time it taught me a few useful things, mostly about confidence and basic social skills. Which is also why I kind of take offence to TEXAS FAIRIES saying earlier that all PUA-types are proto-rapists.



The one thing PD IS a good recipe for is feminism the way I understand it1:  All humans have all the same rights and responsibilities, regardless of gender, orientation, race, or anything else.
Agreed. Equal is Equal and should be Equal for everyone. Anything else is bullshit.

No, not "or anything else": age, health and probably some other things are exceptions that can give different humans a different set of rights and responsibilities.

Interestingly enough, yesterday somebody told me about a difference in point of view in the US versus here (not sure if they meant Europe or NL in particular) that kind of ties in with that sentiment: In the US "freedom" is stated in terms of "freedom of/to X" (freedom of speech, freedom to bear arms, etc) while here we consider our freedoms to be (mostly) "freedom from X" (freedom from illness, freedom from poverty, etc).

But that's getting a bit off-topic for this thread.



I have to say I find tarring and feathering fascinating.

I wonder if tarring on its own was a thing for a while, and then some cruel bastard with a strange streak of humor was like "Hey, it would be really fucking awesome if we added feathers to this, while the pitch is still hot and sticky."

It's really horrible, and yet there is a hint of whimsy... or am I the only one who sees this?

No. In fact, there's a Franco-Belgian comic Lucky Luke, quite popular in Europe (at least when I was a kid), about a cowboy in the wild west, and the criminals in that cartoon are generally tarred-and-feathered to comedic effect.

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BTW sorry I'm still only just halfway reading the thread and now I see that my question was already pretty much answered in the posts that came after.

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Rat, as for your assertion here
ETA: Oh and I have a simple opinion on 'trigger warnings'. If people want to post them they should, if they don't then they shouldn't.

This, to me, is overly simplistic. Personally I think that here, on PeeDee, knowing that THIS discussion has triggered one member's PTSD, that we should put some kind of trigger warning (hell, you could just have a "this link contains [insert possibly triggering subject here] so be aware", rather than the specific phrase "trigger warning" on this type of thread.  We edit posts or put content warnings in for Suu's spider phobia, which to ME seems silly, but to Suu, her arachnophobia is real, and produces a visceral response. Maybe Suu's response to spiders isn't as visceral as something that may trigger someone's PTSD, but I'm not going to be arrogant about it and make an assumption.

Just a quick question, but I'm in the habit of *generally* writing a descriptive topic title for any thread that I'd like to get some serious discussion on.

So if I were to start a thread about rape, it'd probably feature the word "rape" in the title.

That would be enough, right? Or do I have to explicitly say "A few questions about rape [WARNING: QUESTIONS ABOUT RAPE]"?
I mean a person with PTSD can know what to expect also without the warning?

I like descriptive titles because it also works when I don't really think about it. And I don't have to put tags "Trigger warning: Oranges" so Net doesn't get PTSD flashbacks from his heroic Orange ulcer explosion. Or something.

(hey and, looking at our emoticon popup, there's quite a few rape-themed ones that would require trigger warnings all by themselves! though I do believe that the one featuring the two bananas could very well be consensual ...)

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Apple Zone / Re: Righteous Snark poetry Vs Hipsterdom
« on: August 02, 2012, 09:35:23 pm »
What is wrong with the people in the audience? Can't they just SHUT UP and listen to the performers, there's a few points where they even have to wait and stop until the audience SHUTS UP and they can be heard again (doing a beat poetry recital!!). I can hardly understand them at points in the recording. You can cheer and applaud afterwards, right?

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Apple Zone / Re: WOMP-ertainment
« on: August 02, 2012, 09:29:21 pm »
Who comes up with those shapes anyway?? Especially "Barnstable". That's not even a word.

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Apple Zone / Re: Truths Which May Not Be Self-Evident.
« on: August 02, 2012, 09:25:22 pm »
Like the main takeaway from Antero Alli's chapter on Circut Two:  I am here, and I am now.

Except that being "here" isn't enough.  The world is full of people who are here.

Two things:

it's also important to be in the now. maybe even more important, but I'm not sure, they could both be equally important.

and I'm not certain what you mean by that "the world is full of people who are here", in a similar sense the world is full of people who are here "now". but the point is that not only they are physically here now, you need to be mentally and consciously here and now.

and that's pretty much what nearly all meditation and yoga practices boil down to, mostly.

all the stuff around it is training, practice and exercises.

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Principia Discussion / Re: An interview with you
« on: August 02, 2012, 09:14:08 pm »
What's the list for Hirley0?

... should I be scared that I'm on your list? ... :scared:

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Apple Zone / Re: PDCOM 2.0: THE NEXT LEVEL
« on: August 02, 2012, 08:41:45 pm »
We do have... its dysfunctional, but it exists.

It's a fucking morgue.

Portal it up all you like.  Nobody's going to read it.

Is there a particular reason why you keep repeating this mantra just about every other day now?

Because I don't know about anybody else but the effect it has on me is that it really really makes me want to contribute less? Especially doing it in a thread where people are actually working together on making this site nicer. Because hey, something that gets people enthusiastic, Rat's been PMing me with all sorts of bits of code (sorry that I reallyhaven't had time yet to join in on it, Rat) and this thing is actually taking off and you know what? Let's take a huge steaming dump of shit on it! Never mind! This thread is now about how PD is dead and everything is futile and people reading and posting about the wrong things or whatever it is.

And it's not even true! I've been reading and replying to all sorts of interesting stuff on PD today and there's a fuckton of interesting threads I still have to read.

As is the other part! "Portaling it up" will put those threads and topics that are not boring or trivial or whatever the hell the problem is with threads about cake or reggae into the spotlight and more people will read them. And I'm not really sure why you claim otherwise, while on the *other* hand you're complaining the reason they apparently don't get read enough because those awful threads about cake are taking all the spotlight (apparently) ... :?

Oh and did I mention, yes I think I mentioned it before, that every time you post something like that it feels like a personal insult and really I wouldn't know in what other way to take it?

Should we maybe make an UNLIMITED "THE BOARD IS DED" REPOSITORY thread?

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Apple Zone / Re: Introductions, part V: Don't Say We Never Warned You.
« on: August 02, 2012, 07:58:43 pm »
Hey there, forum. I'm not new either, but I don't think I ever formally introduced myself.

Also it's 2 am and I think I'm being funny. I'm going to wake up and say "oh God dammit." When I see this again.

Hey  there, new guy!

Hey there, new guy!

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