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Bring and Brag / Re: Unicorns with Dicks for Horns
« on: July 23, 2015, 09:36:41 am »
Its no wonder they went extinct


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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Random News Stories
« on: June 29, 2015, 05:09:27 pm »
The Profit Motive








eta: Though sometimes there's a chink of light -
Council blocks Little Plumpton fracking application
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-33313084

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Stand-up definitely looks like a better option; though a bad crowd is more likely to attack you than to trash your car so . . .  :wink:

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And also a fond farewell to John Steed of the Avengers the ever delightful Patrick Macnee -
scraped from his imdb entry :-
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Was expelled from Eton for bookmaking.
With Christopher Lee's death, he is the last surviving cast member of Hamlet (1948).

sadly that didn't last long

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Uber or something similar lost a legal fight with the taxicab union here, they are in mayor trouble because of that.

Yeah. Take serious care before you sign anything.

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Don't take advice from random foreigners on the interwebs, including me, and I am the 3rd eurovoice. This needs careful local research. Also will you be responsible for the cost of the vehicle if Uber go bust? Word from India seems to suggest they have grown too fast to be entirely legit. Good luck with whetever you decide to do, though.

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Tumblr:- Not always terrible

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Since we all knew that Death was too scared of Christopher Lee for Lee to ever actually die, the consensus on Twitter is that Death is actually stepping down and Sir Christopher is assuming the post.
Congratulations on your promotion, Sir Christopher. An excellent capstone to a life well-lived.





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We have to understand that no matter what we do with our lives we will never be as awesome as Christopher Lee is.
I will never get over how he corrected Peter Jackson on the proper sound a man makes when heís been stabbed in the back because he actually worked in the British clandestine services.

Or how he volunteered to fight in one of the most brutal fronts of WWII (the Finnish-Russian Winter War).

Or how he was fucking NAZI HUNTER.

Basically, Christopher Lee is the real Most Interesting Man in the world and I honestly donít know why we tell Chuck Norris jokes

And then I see him rambling on about how Saruman and Gandalf are actually Istari, which are one of the Maia in the LotR commentaries and I realize he literally cannot become more awesome.
Oh canít he?

#Christopher Lee wrote a Metal Opera about Charlemagne #all opinions are irrelevant

GOD HEíS HARDCORE AS FUCK
Heís also played Dracula like 5 billion times and in the first one he refused to use the terrible dialogue and wasnít fired.

He was also bros with Vincent Price and Peter Cushing, but unlike them was able to get away from the horror genre and forged a well-rounded career.

He can speak 8 languages and will sometimes do his own dubbing for foreign versions of his films.

His family carries the coat of arms of the Holy Roman Empire.

He was related to John Lee, Robert E. Lee, and Ian Fleming.

He really was the most interesting man in the world.

do you ever just cry because christopher lee

This is why I canít have nice thingsÖ because Christopher Lee has them all already.
reblogging today because we have lost the Most Interesting Man In the World

we will not see his kind again

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Random News Stories
« on: June 09, 2015, 10:27:00 am »
Also ^ this
Demolition Squid has the right of it

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Random News Stories
« on: June 09, 2015, 10:01:11 am »
I'm moderately sorry for writing off his achievements, but I really am struggling to see that many. For example, the ones in the thread so far :
-Right about iraq (Who fucking wasn't. Even I called that as a bullshit clusterfuck.)
That would be Government and the Opposition, you are pretty much outvoted and outgunned there
-said stupid things less often than others (Given the company he's competed with, not hard.)
 Yanno mostly the other guys are saying things which are not "stupid" but are socially divisive, destructive in unpleasantly partisan ways, self serving and often downright evil so that puts Kennedy on the side of the angels
-Abstained from a vote on coalition (that went well)
"(that went well)" do you mean Kennedy's abstention or the formation of the coalition because they are not actually commensurable
-Opposed blair raising tuition fees (Went well too)
Same problem
-Pandered to demographic (Pretty much his job)
 wtf does that even mean and have you got any evidence to support it?
-grew lib-dem party (credit due here, but kind of irrelevant since clegg royally fucked it all up. Politically this is probably his most notable and it's one that I fucking raised.)
 no you fucking didn't, also you can't make a value judgement on Kennedy's achievement in growing the party based on what happened ex post facto under a different leader - my perception is that Kennedy was moving the LibDems out to the left well past Labour at the time almost offering a valid left wing alternative. Its a shame he drank himself to death because now we will never know
-had morals and principles (So let's get out the fucking medals.)
 You really want it both ways don't you? You slag off ALL politicos as shysters and self servers and when you do tentatively acknowledge the possibilty that maybe some of them are principled you try to turn that into a negative too.

Others?

The thing about Charley Kennedy is that [with the possible exception of you :wink:] he was well liked by the public and by a wide spectrum of other politicians. I really hope that his death will make people think about the devastating impact of alcohol on society

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Random News Stories
« on: June 08, 2015, 11:00:43 pm »
I don't drink. Imagining life without alcohol is rather simple.

Another 2 points deducted for missing all points.

Here's it as simple as I can make it:

I work in an environment where turning up drunk gets you in serious shit, very, very quickly. The reason is simple enough that you may yet grasp it - Impaired judgements can have fatal consequences.


Regardless of your feelings, the man had some degree of political power and his judgements were impaired frequently while on the job. We paid for that. For years. If you think that it's OK because you had a drink in Africa or something once then bully for you. You've got the political system you deserve. I'd rather have every politician, royal and financial services worker piss tested twice a day than continue under the current system. If you get power you should be competent to be trusted with it. If you are unable or unwilling to be competent with the power you have, it must be removed from you. If you are responsible for others (As politicians are) then you must act in a responsible manner. (Varies radically with little mechanism to enforce. I wonder why.)


You know, kind of like most other working environments. It also becomes rather more important the more weight your decisions have.

Tell you what, go get some evidence for us. Turn up to work steaming drunk with a pipe in hand and explain that it's groovy because you're "less than a total dick", "one of the good guys", thought Iraq would end badly and any of the other bullshit justifications you whipped out for him. Let me know how employed you remain.

You do realise that we are both essentially on the same side, don't you? NB The mind excercise is not for you per se but for "You" generic.
Now you have explained it more full I totally get the vehemence of your anti-alcoholic reaction. Fact is Kennedy really was one of the good guys [yes I do realise that this is a totally subjective opinion]. And the Independent thing I linked indicates just how big a problem alcohol is within the body politic. I sincerely hope that Kennedy's early and unneccessary death actually opens up debate on the place of alcohol in Parliament in particular and society in general. That would be a hell of a legacy - if society's unhealthy dependence on alcohol got discussed because of ChampagneCharley's death.
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If you think that it's OK because you had a drink in Africa or something once then bully for you.
wtf mate, did you even read what I said? Lol If I didn't know better I'd say you'd been drinking  :wink:

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Random News Stories
« on: June 08, 2015, 09:30:40 pm »
Dude. Everyone's got problems and that response was a good while ago. It looked rather like you had nothing further to say as you had, in fact, said nothing further for several days. I'll raise your day in surgery with more than you could possibly imagine and I'm still being relatively fucking civil.

I'll get the tabloids to run with black tops until you recover appropriately.

ETA - 2nd paragraph of my response discussed alcohol. Final para's the Di effect. You may want to recover fully before straining that reading comprehension beyond picking up on a mistake and acting like you're the smartest monkey around.

Nope none of your paras actually discuss anything. My original point was and continues to be that your first comment on Kennedy was a cheap slur on a guy who managed to be less than a total dick despite being a career politician and an alcoholic. (And I'm not the only one around here who seems rather sorry that our political class has lost one of its good guys.) If you are only interested in throwaway oneliners which raise interesting issues like the role of alcohol in the parliamentary process or the remarkable phenomenon which was the Princess Diana effect your only point being to slag off politicos and royals because it makes you feel good or something then fair dos have at it and get your jollies. But don't be surprised if someone argues back that your scatter gun is too blunt an implement [yeah badly mixed metaphor there, long day, no real excuse]. So back to your original point
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Additionally, Charles Kennedy dead. Notable political achievements - Nil, as far as I can recall. I'm sure I'll be told at length over several days about all his wondrous works but I can't recall a single one beyond "Regularly pissed". I'm pretty sure he's the chap that originally gave us the euphemism of "tired and emotional" which invariably means "Screaming drunk and shitting themselves in the hallway".
Except to make the "tired and emotional" connection [which you now admit was wrong] what the hell was the point of the comment other than to say the guy was an alcoholic and he's dead in a rather snide way? It didn't read like a comment on the invidious position of the 3rd party in a basically 2 party system or the inadvisabilty of shoring up a minority Tory government. It certainly doesn't look like an invitation to a discussion on the evils of alcohol in the modern world. Despite that I'm gonna try
True story: back in the day we took a pack of uni students to do some anthropology fieldwork out in Africa. It was great fun; we taught a full semester's course in theoretical and practical preparation for an brief ethnographic study . Sadly it was only 2 weeks but with a big team and a lot of preparation you can still get a lot done.Everybody was really keen and looking forward to this unique experience. So we got out there and had a great time. There was only one problem. The people we went to meet were strict moslems and the area was a no alcohol zone. So here's the kicker - 2 days before the end of the expedition everyone except my partner and I [not teetotal but only very very occasional drinkers] pissed off to the capital city because they needed a drink. And I really mean that - they needed a drink. Even our department head who had wanted to visit this area the whole of her life left early because she needed a drink. Being only a very occasional drinker in a society where living life with a glass of booze in your hand is the norm gives you a very interesting perspective on the use and abuse of alcohol.

Mind experiment:
Imagine your life without alcohol


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I'll take that as "I concede on all points as I am unable to even bother with a counter-argument", shall I?

Poor show, no points awarded, 3 deducted for substandard effort.
Dude I ain't got a dick and I'm not into pissing contests - take that any way you like.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Random News Stories
« on: June 08, 2015, 07:15:18 pm »
I'll take that as "I concede on all points as I am unable to even bother with a counter-argument", shall I?

Poor show, no points awarded, 3 deducted for substandard effort.

Fuck you I've spent the day in surgery and had better things to do with my time than shoot the shit with you - also I've been under anaesthetic most of the day so conversation not an option.
My points stand, (and I didn't say anything much different than Cain btw), if you had a point to make beyond the "He's dead so I will piss on him" schtick (kind of the reverse of the Princess Di effect) about the relationship of British politicians and alcohol then there is an interesting discussion to be had:-
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/charles-kennedy-death-why-mps-are-still-in-denial-over-their-drinking-culture-10301445.html

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Random News Stories
« on: June 07, 2015, 10:21:04 pm »

Additionally, Charles Kennedy dead. [snip]

Nope. George Brown was the original "tired and emotional". But you probably don't know who he was. Also, as I'm sure you have realised by now if you listen to the news, if we had listened to Chatshow Charlie we wouldn't have gone to war in Iraq.

Which probably wouldn't have been a bad thing.

Quite correct on the tired and emotional thing. Memory not what it was.


I've been woefully behind on the news for well over 6 months now. I would say that Kennedy was hardly the lone voice of dissent over Iraq so any credit there seems dubious at best. Or we can pretend he was the only one saying such things. Entirely up to you, really.

You seem to be overly upset about this entire thing. Why?
Because I am living in a world where the "undeserving rich" yanno the Osbournes, Mays, Camerons and that grotesque buffoon Boris Johnson are not suddenly dying too young and you are slashing the diss on Kennedy whowhile he was certainly not the only dissident voice re. Iraq pretty much was the only principled voice crying in the wilderness of Westminster. So, you are entitled to your opinion but from my perspective if you wanted to get a cheap laugh from him you might as well have gone the whole hog and done the "ginger Scots alcoholic - so no surprise there" route.
I hope you don't take this personally, it isn't meant as  a slapdown, more as a sly dig, but you did ask  :wink:

I take it as neither and suggest you reconsider your view of the man and his accomplishments. Limited as they are, they helped set the stage for the shitshow we've just been through with the coalition so we'll call that smooth move #1.

Yes, the bottle was an easy and obvious joke, but please recall so was the largest part of his political career. His tendancies were hardly hidden or subtle and given the hilarious number of MP's that have had no problems for all kinds of drink-driving exploits it's a consistent reminder that there is a very obvious division in who and who can't get away with breaking the law. Keep turning up to your job drunk and see how long you last. Now please remember that you technically paid for him to do this for many years and the difference between him and say, Boris isn't as wide as you may like to imagine. People called him drinking himself to death years ago and while I haven't followed the fine detail it wouldn't surprise me to find them right. 

But he smiled and occasionally did the right thing. Occasionally even the thing on his manifesto though he had no real political power to actually force any significant changes. Being slightly less shitty than your peers does not make you worthy of adulation.

Although! He was against the Iraq War! Only sane man who saw that it might not have been smart.
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/List_of_UK_MPs_who_voted_for_Iraq_War
Err. No.
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Across all members, it passed by a majority of 263, with 421 in favour and 263 against. All Liberal Democrats voted against the war; 244 Labour Party members voted in favour (and tabled the motion), as did 139 Conservative Party members

Wait, what?

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/feb/26/foreignpolicy.uk2

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Tony Blair tonight suffered the biggest Commons revolt of his premiership as 199 MPs rejected his course of action over Iraq.
A much higher than expected 121 Labour MPs broke a three-line whip to voice their concern that the case for military intervention was "as yet unproven".

Wait, What?

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Leading the case for the rebels, Labour MP Alan Simpson - fresh from a trip to the US where he attempted to inspect America's weapons of mass destruction - said he regarded the government motion and the war rhetoric that surrounded it as a "real low-point" in contemporary British politics.

"It marks a sense of the disconnection of this house from the society we claim to represent," he said.

The government was increasingly looking for a pretext for war, rather than for the avoidance of one, he argued. "We appear to produce dossiers of mass deception, whose claims are dismissed as risible almost as soon as they are released.

Urging ministers to listen to "our other allies" such as France and Germany, he said: "We need inspections, not invasions."

I think some Blair cabinet ministers may have quit too. Hardly saints, but that takes FAR more balls and sends and much larger message than the leader of an irrelevant party.

I suppose when Galloway dies, we will whip this out as proof he's a living saint too:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/britain-goes-war-iraq---4330312
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Respect's George Galloway also said no to RAF bombers based on Cyprus hitting militant targets in the Middle Eastern country.
Isis, but the point stands.

The people of the UK seem to have some kind of bizarre obsession with magnifying the positive attributes of the dead to near mythic proportions. The classic is Diana but the same kind of shit is whipped out for anyone above a certain level of fame.

The sad reality is that he could have probably had far more of an impact and been far less likely to succumb to the bottle if he was an MP for either Labour or the Tories. A political career with no real political power is quite tragic.

Please forgive any mis-spellings, I typed this in crayon.

Nah, your spelling is fine - its a bit of a weird colour though.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Random News Stories
« on: June 03, 2015, 07:05:25 pm »

Additionally, Charles Kennedy dead. [snip]

Nope. George Brown was the original "tired and emotional". But you probably don't know who he was. Also, as I'm sure you have realised by now if you listen to the news, if we had listened to Chatshow Charlie we wouldn't have gone to war in Iraq.

Which probably wouldn't have been a bad thing.

Quite correct on the tired and emotional thing. Memory not what it was.


I've been woefully behind on the news for well over 6 months now. I would say that Kennedy was hardly the lone voice of dissent over Iraq so any credit there seems dubious at best. Or we can pretend he was the only one saying such things. Entirely up to you, really.

You seem to be overly upset about this entire thing. Why?
Because I am living in a world where the "undeserving rich" yanno the Osbournes, Mays, Camerons and that grotesque buffoon Boris Johnson are not suddenly dying too young and you are slashing the diss on Kennedy whowhile he was certainly not the only dissident voice re. Iraq pretty much was the only principled voice crying in the wilderness of Westminster. So, you are entitled to your opinion but from my perspective if you wanted to get a cheap laugh from him you might as well have gone the whole hog and done the "ginger Scots alcoholic - so no surprise there" route.
I hope you don't take this personally, it isn't meant as  a slapdown, more as a sly dig, but you did ask  :wink:

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