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Food is food?

I might possibly be an idiot.
Not while the Donald is still alive. The competition will kill ya

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Beyond the wall / Re: Academia Ghetto Thread
« on: December 04, 2016, 02:28:22 am »
I love students . . . but I couldn't eat a whole one

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Beyond the wall / Re: Welcome to Discordia
« on: December 02, 2016, 12:24:00 am »
[snip] Point still stands. You were all wrong about Trump. Despite being completely wrong none of you are any less smug. Have you ever stopped and thought about why you failed to see Trump coming?

NB This post is in the wrong thread. It should be in the thread entitled
   
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Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.

oh, wait, . . . yeah a thread which has been running since August 04, 2015. So, did a majority of the folks around here want there to be a Democrat victory - yes, that's probably true. But you are going so much further than that and claiming that there was spell cast across the forum which blinded everyone from assessing the progress of the electoral process realistically. Calling bullshit on that one. The sad thing is that around here the ability to face up to Awful Truths is painfully high.

I live in hope that people aren't damn stupid enough to take obvious generalizations at completely face value. Also actually go back and look at the thread. The two people I am talking to right now both were in the "Trump is impossible" camp. Nigel was making posts all the way to the end about how Trump was doomed.

Links or it didn't happen. Also this is STILL in the wrong thread

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Beyond the wall / Re: Welcome to Discordia
« on: December 02, 2016, 12:20:35 am »

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Beyond the wall / Re: Welcome to Discordia
« on: December 02, 2016, 12:17:55 am »
[snip] Point still stands. You were all wrong about Trump. Despite being completely wrong none of you are any less smug. Have you ever stopped and thought about why you failed to see Trump coming?

NB This post is in the wrong thread. It should be in the thread entitled
   
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Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.

oh, wait, . . . yeah a thread which has been running since August 04, 2015. So, did a majority of the folks around here want there to be a Democrat victory - yes, that's probably true. But you are going so much further than that and claiming that there was spell cast across the forum which blinded everyone from assessing the progress of the electoral process realistically. Calling bullshit on that one. The sad thing is that around here the ability to face up to Awful Truths is painfully high.

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Techmology and Scientism / Re: I need someone smarter than me to parse this
« on: December 01, 2016, 07:01:08 pm »
I think he's just another phlogiston salesman. I read his piece then looked at his TED talk: http://www.ted.com/talks/donald_hoffman_do_we_see_reality_as_it_is?share=1dfeab9462

"Brains and neurons have no causal powers [ . . . ] Brains and neurons are a species specific set of symbols; they are a hack" [c. 17:30]

Only one hack in this piece, and that would be Dr Hoffman.

Also, This thread needs more barstools



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Beyond the wall / Re: Space dogs
« on: November 28, 2016, 05:42:25 pm »
I'm looking into the not too distant future and seeing a SpaceBus [executive class only] with TRUMP on the side. It is not a comforting thought.It wouldn't be conspicuously better if it said VIRGIN, either.

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Principia Discussion / Re: An affordable copy of Zenarchy?
« on: November 28, 2016, 05:38:45 pm »
My thoughts exactly.

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Principia Discussion / Re: An affordable copy of Zenarchy?
« on: November 28, 2016, 04:22:41 pm »
Why bankrupt yourself for a dead tree copy when it is freely available online?

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Beyond the wall / Re: Space dogs
« on: November 28, 2016, 04:24:30 am »
What kind of body would even be responsible for making sure that "we" don't gatecrash some other planet's party without a valid "ethical standpoint". I mean; who are "We"? Space is increasingly the domain of private, for-profit, enterprises. The world of business and finance isn't renowned for its spotless hands and cleaner than clean ethical standards, and there are also plenty of governments who would like a slice of that potentially profitable and internationally significant space action.

so, Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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Beyond the wall / Re: Welcome to Discordia
« on: November 27, 2016, 06:30:25 pm »



Shouldn't that be "Amphibian, even"? [/pedant]

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Beyond the wall / Re: Space dogs
« on: November 27, 2016, 06:24:48 pm »
I mean, or else we will be rendered back to the Stone Age by our own stupidity, and that's just where humans will stay for the duration of our remaining existence on the planet.

You know there is a reassuring appropriateness in our bombing ourselves back to the Stone Age. I mean just because karma is a bunch of weirdo bullshit it doesn't mean that you can't be hoist by your own petard.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Misinfo Wars
« on: November 24, 2016, 01:38:08 pm »

Not wishing to overstate the obvious but
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All affirmations are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense. Sri Syadasti
I think the key word in Sri Syadasti is the one that is most often overlooked: affirmations. It's important to recognize that it does not say that all facts or that all ideas or even that all opinions are true, false, and meaningless, but rather anything which seems to confirm our own predispositions, positions, or conclusions.

Actually when I looked at this quote I took the trouble to go and confirm that my understanding of the term affirmation was such that the quote as whole really said what I thought it did.

The critical adage that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge" is, in fact, true. Ignorance has value, and disinformation mints it.
Well Trump is for sure going to make bank on it, you can bet on that. I must admit, though, I prefer the whole quote though which contains a different, or maybe an alternative, 'truth' than the abbreviated version you give
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“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
Gotta love Asimov.


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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Misinfo Wars
« on: November 23, 2016, 02:51:52 pm »

Not only are there myriad encyclopaedias out there now but anybody with an agenda can create their own and tote it as the gospel truth. I guess back in the days of print there may have been more rigourous fact checking and more severe repercussions for reporting something that turned out to be false.


If I interpreted your link correctly it is suggesting that authored works should be engaged with not only at face value but with consideration to the character and environment of the author? That is an interesting point but  (and?) adds another layer of complexity/obfuscation to uncovering truth.

Equally, if not more, relevant is the Barthes' recognition that the reader is in some very real metaphysical sense also the author. Its a BIP thing. Everything the reader brings to the table is part of what they bring to their reading of the work. The "Death of the Author" is quite literal in the sense that an author does not have ultimate power to ensure that what they write is what someone else reads. It recognises that the power relationship between the author and the reader is not a simple one. Barthes is trying to  suggest that the power lies not, as you might expect, with the author, [ie authority] but with the reader.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Misinfo Wars
« on: November 23, 2016, 11:20:19 am »
Not wishing to overstate the obvious but

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All affirmations are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense. Sri Syadasti


So imagine you are a conscientious writer [NB that is a generic 'you', I'm not suggesting that you personally aren't a conscientious writer]. So you do the best research you can, you read widely, you assess the quality and accuracy of your sources and eventually you end up writing a piece on, for example, Hillary Clinton and yet you still end up getting a small detail wrong her date of birth for example. How would you characterise this minor inaccuracy? Does it invalidate all the other well researched  and [notionally] accurate information in your piece? Does it put it on the same footing as a piece which for example claims that Hillary Clinton has a death squad who assassinate her enemies, or that she is part of a child trafficking ring who kill and eat children?
 
When you said
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With the internet we've simply all got a whole library of encyclopedias willing to tell us different things if we'd just look.
and, forgive me if I am misinterpreting you, portrayed the problem as being a minor problem of interpretation and not a burning issue of such huge import as to put a lying shyster in the White House or have the UK jump off a cliff yelling Make Britain Great Again.

My current interpretation, for what its worth, is that Barthes' concept "The death of the author" is a good point to step back and try to get some perspective on what is going on. http://artblog.catherinehoman.com/roland-barthes-the-death-of-the-author-critical-summary/
I have listened intently to as many UKIP voting "traditional Labour voters" since the referendum and as much  of the "authentic" voice of rust-belt America as I have been able to find since the election, because I feel a desperate need to be able to find some genuine points of reference in this World Turned Upside Down. I'm not finding any. I feel like I'm living in some kind of alternate reality where burning witches actually makes sense and that being the case I can't see how rational human beings can restore us to reality. Whopping lies are always going to be more exciting and media sexy than boring truths. I just never expected to see them as part of mainstream political debate in the 21stC.
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