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So here's a cute and compact PSA delightfully linking Agent Orange with Dunning-Kruger -

The UK is truly divided. Not only are we not terribly 'united' anyway, being a cobbled together amalgam of four, yes four, nations into a land mass slightly smaller than Oregon but there is increasing exidence of the disturbing  divide that catapulted us into Brexit; the current exemplar of this being our relationship to the Eurovision Song Contest.

YouGov ran a poll on whether UK people wanted to leave the Eurovision Song Contest and the results were telling
"Broadly speaking, the Brexit dividing line runs through the results. Those groups that were more likely to vote for Brexit were more likely to want to pull out of the Song Contest: 81% of those who intend to vote UKIP, 78% of 65+ year olds and 76% of Leave voters. Likewise, those groups most in favour of staying in Eurovision are those who intend to vote Liberal Democrat (70%), 18-24 year olds (69%) and Remain voters (65%)."

YouGov didn't ask the important underlying question of whether people wanted to leave the European Broadcasting Union but it would have been interesting to know since the EBU is the premier cheerleading group for public service broadcasting in a large part of the non-american world. [Yes Australia competes in Eurovision]. I would suggest that Brexit voters are likely to also be the sort of people who want to see the BBC turned into the Imperial Broadcasting Service, showing film of the coronation on loop, patronising documentaries of the happy, smiling, faces of our colonial workforce [in their own damn countries, of course] and interminable re-runs of George V at the Delhi Durbar in 1911. Yeah, the thought of the IBS makes my bowel creep, too.

All of which, however interesting, is a pretext for this silly graphic that made me snirk this morning

and I can't even complain to my local MP because he is the Master of the Local hunt!

This made me chuckle. Very short, short story by Chas Stross. Topical. Amusing

As far as I can tell, trident serves the following purposes:

1 - Jobs in largely labour areas.(The main reason orbyn got so much grief from his own party is down to this)
2- Allows the UK to keep feeling important as a "nuclear power"
3 - Err, that's about it.

1 is a little silly as you could easily turn the workforce to other much more productive things at a fraction of the cost.

2 is pants on head retarded as there is nowhere on earth that you could justify deploying a nuclear strike at. Russia, China and North Korea are not awake at night in fear of 3 submarines. I would doubt that ISIS or similar even know about them and wouldn't give two shits about them either, even if they do. So who does it keep in line? Argentina? Pakistan? Iran? The EU? I'm seriously asking, what nation or group are they supposed to deter?

I think the historic answer to that has been "Anyone the Americans want us to deter", because it isn't as if we really have any genuine level of control over the damn things anyway.

Now the BBC is asking if Corbyn is a pacifist. 

Never mind Theresa May affirming a first strike nuclear policy, and thus batshit insane.

I remember that. What's worse is that every other pm, including Thatcher, directed that there should be no retaliatory strikes in the event of a nuclear attack on the UK that resulted in a loss of command and control. Mainly because nuclear weapons are barbaric. Which leaves trident as an utterly pointless waste of resources.

Yes, what is the point of having a weapon which you can't use? [/notTrump]

Never mind Theresa May affirming a first strike nuclear policy, and thus batshit insane.

I bet the po'buckers ate that shit up.

Like your boy Donnie said - what's the point of having them if you don't use them? Am I right?
Made my gut curdle; she smirked while she said it


Never mind Theresa May affirming a first strike nuclear policy, and thus batshit insane.

mutter mutter zeitgeist mutter mutter

Objection, it's closer to a stab in the face. It's not like she's ever pretended to be anything other than despicable.

I think her snide slap about people thinking of the Tories as the "Nasty Party" was an attempt to position herself on the more acceptable wing of that discussion. Sadly as soon as she got a sniff of power that was straight in the bin.

It felt more like a stab in the back to me. Slimy political animal.

Techmology and Scientism / Re: Milgram Redux
« on: May 11, 2017, 05:55:15 pm »
Hey, don't be so impatient. We are damn nearly there. Just give us a bit more time, we'll "Make America / Britain Great again" get there soon enough.

BBC Reporting "Corbyn car ran over BBC guys foot".

When Hislop called out the bias a week or so ago it was amusing. Seeing stories like this appear makes it a little blatant. It's not rocket science to figure out how close the guy must have been standing for this to occur. I'm waiting for that to spiral in the next couple of days because it's obviously going to be touch and go about amputating the both legs by the time the usual rags have finished with it.

Wow, what a shame they don't give his policies such blanket coverage  :roll:

Techmology and Scientism / Milgram Redux
« on: May 11, 2017, 10:27:47 am »
Long ago and far away, when Americans [and Brits] had a better claim to being heroes than seems to be the case today we all knew who the bad guys were; the Germans. They were apparently uniquely and spectacularly evil. They were so evil that their evil was "banal", just another accounting tool in an empire of evil that superceded any previous evil empire in born in the bone depravity. Then our old friend Stanley Milgram steps up. He can't bring himself to believe that there is something wrong with all of the German people, he believes that the motivating force for the grotesque behaviour of ordinary Germans faced with unthinkable orders and decisions is situational. To test his hypothesis he put ordinary Americans in equivalent laboratory situations and lo and behold
"Milgram recorded how far his participants were willing to go when told to deliver larger and larger shocks. In one version of the study, 26 out of 40 participants continued to the highest shock level – two steps beyond the button labelled “Danger: severe shock”.

But this was 50 years ago – surely the same wouldn’t happen if the experiment were conducted today?"

New Milgram replication in Poland finds 90 per cent of participants willing to deliver highest shock

It goes without saying that a straight replication of Milgram is not possible. Well actually it is but you would never be able to publish your results and the litigation would be crippling. The present research has developed interesting and apparently quite robust strategies to compensate for the restrictions which modern ethical standard impose to get as close to the original experiments as possible. Even allowing that they did not stress their subjects as highly as Milgram did his there seems to be a disturbing tendency towards more "obedience to authority" [as Milgram called it] in the 2017 version than just after the War. Or it could just be that Poles have now become the most evil people on the planet.

The thing which immediately struck me is that in contemporary society we are more programmed for action at a distance by our everyday technologies. We remote control our environments in ways which back in Milgram's day were the province of 'Bond villains'. Makes you think, doesn't it?

Techmology and Scientism / Re: Weekly Science Headlines
« on: May 09, 2017, 11:45:11 am »

Pumping cold sea water onto arctic ice during winter. However, refreezing the arctic ocean wouldn't do much to the feedback cycle of atmospheric carbon dioxide. Nor would it reduce sea level rise, which is largely from glaciers on Greenland and Antarctica.

He has surely got one thing right though:
“There’ll be a time, 10 to 15 years from now, when Arctic sea ice will be accelerating to oblivion, and there’ll be political will to do something about climate change,” Desch says. 

We need to have this figured out by the time people are ready to do something.”   

Also: Nice to see you back Kai - MMIX/ St Mysteria

Le Pen defeated in France.  :banana:

Phew, thank god for that.

Q:  Can you make Tony Blair look good?

A:  Theresa May.


Q: What made Thatcherism so damn sexy

A: Tony Blair

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