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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Boyd Bushman | Deathbed Disclosure
« on: November 21, 2014, 07:30:28 am »
The most important parts about there being 18 extraterrestrials who are in the US government's pay is that:

-US dollars are meaningful to them
-they can't get back on their own
-Their government isn't in contact with us.

The latter of which is the most intriguing. Again, if I were a big giant head, I would go, right, you found my idiots pissing about in New Mexico. Sorry about that, let's open up diplomatic relations, now that you know I'm here, and can I please have my idiots back?

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Boyd Bushman | Deathbed Disclosure
« on: November 21, 2014, 07:25:48 am »
I actually listened to the whole thing at work. And here's my thought:

Why would we need to employ 18 extraterrestrials to reverse engineer their own technology?

I don't think claims of extraterrestrial contact legit (particularly this one; according to Snopes and Doubtful News and a number of other sources the "alien" in Bushman's photos is a mass-produced Halloween decoration [the writer from Snopes added that he was even  able to find one at his local Walmart]) but nonetheless This isn't necessarily a valid point. Do you know how most of the technology that you personally use works, in anything more than a very broad and general sense? And even if you did do you think you could repair or replicate it without the proper tools? Even if they did have complete knowledge of the technologies in question they'd still have to find a way build the tools necessary to build them, and to build the tools to build the tools; even, by analogy, if you know how to make microchips you may not know how to make a machine that etches silicon. Imagine trying to repair or duplicate an mp3 player using tools from Leonardo da Vinci's workshop.

It's a completely valid point. An expensive craft that could be damaged and stranded in space? Even humans know not to do that. Anyone with interstellar travel is gonna be a lot smarter than we are, so yeah, they might not be able to build one from scratch but they're sure as hell going to have a comprehensive understanding of how to fix it. Every single crew member is likely to be trained to do every job on board.

If I was a big giant head, and I was sending a couple of dudes on a mission to a planet several light years away an knowing that even despite apparent ability to get around light speed something could go wrong, I would make damn sure if anything went wrong the crew was amply sizable and knowledgeable to fix it.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Boyd Bushman | Deathbed Disclosure
« on: November 21, 2014, 07:22:36 am »
I actually listened to the whole thing at work. And here's my thought:

Why would we need to employ 18 extraterrestrials to reverse engineer their own technology?

I don't think claims of extraterrestrial contact legit (particularly this one; according to Snopes and Doubtful News and a number of other sources the "alien" in Bushman's photos is a mass-produced Halloween decoration [the writer from Snopes added that he was even  able to find one at his local Walmart]) but nonetheless This isn't necessarily a valid point. Do you know how most of the technology that you personally use works, in anything more than a very broad and general sense? And even if you did do you think you could repair or replicate it without the proper tools? Even if they did have complete knowledge of the technologies in question they'd still have to find a way build the tools necessary to build them, and to build the tools to build the tools; even, by analogy, if you know how to make microchips you may not know how to make a machine that etches silicon. Imagine trying to repair or duplicate an mp3 player using tools from Leonardo da Vinci's workshop.

Let me get this straight.

You would expect the Enterprise to not have a Scotty and a back-up Scotty?

More of a City on the Edge of Forever, Spock trying to repair a tricorder with vacuum tubes type thing; but more so, I think he had an unrealistically easy time with that.

The Guardian isn't involved here. We're talking about crashed crafts. Crafts, plural.

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Damn, Cain made me realize something I had forgotten: I don't believe in progress (most of the time).

Allow me to explain my position:
People are idiots.
Making more idiots is not progress.
Making idiots live longer is not progress.
Giving idiots bigger bombs is not progress.

The only thing that comes close is sending idiots into space, but even then we manage to fuck it up: The international space station? What the fuck is the concept of nationalism doing in space? you drew your lines on the ground map so you get to stay on the ground you smarmy little small-minded fucks!

Well, I wouldn't go that far.

I'd just point out, like I did, that some ideas concerning equality and the universality of humanity pre-date the 20th century by quite a bit, and the idea that history = bad and modernity = good is as childlike as the belief that "traditional values" = good and modernity = bad.

Which brings me onto another point.  The whole idea of traditional values is laughable.  It's either a bastardised, misremembered, idealised and watered down version of percieved 1950s social mores, or "Victorian" values minus all the bits that people don't like talking about (like the very bawdy jokes, the nude photographs, the "penny dreadfuls", rampant drug use etc).  It's make believe, a story for children. It's also incredibly ethnocentric, as it ignores the social and scientific progress that occured under Islam or in the Russian republics, to focus on an exclusively Western "rise from barbarity narrative" (which also conveniently sidesteps the Greco-Roman heritage of Western civilization...probably due to all the paganism, buggery, wine and debauchery).

People in the past were just as honourable, depraved, corrupt, loveable and terrible as modern people - because, y'know, there was the common denominator in that they were people.

This is brilliant. People are people, regardless of their era and the culture they find themselves in.

It's incredibly freeing, and incredibly condemning all at the same time.

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Principia Discussion / Re: What is the Principia's "John 3:16"?
« on: November 21, 2014, 01:09:52 am »
"Quotes are for suckers"
Book of Twid 0:00

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Boyd Bushman | Deathbed Disclosure
« on: November 21, 2014, 01:05:03 am »
I actually listened to the whole thing at work. And here's my thought:

Why would we need to employ 18 extraterrestrials to reverse engineer their own technology?

I don't think claims of extraterrestrial contact legit (particularly this one; according to Snopes and Doubtful News and a number of other sources the "alien" in Bushman's photos is a mass-produced Halloween decoration [the writer from Snopes added that he was even  able to find one at his local Walmart]) but nonetheless This isn't necessarily a valid point. Do you know how most of the technology that you personally use works, in anything more than a very broad and general sense? And even if you did do you think you could repair or replicate it without the proper tools? Even if they did have complete knowledge of the technologies in question they'd still have to find a way build the tools necessary to build them, and to build the tools to build the tools; even, by analogy, if you know how to make microchips you may not know how to make a machine that etches silicon. Imagine trying to repair or duplicate an mp3 player using tools from Leonardo da Vinci's workshop.

Let me get this straight.

You would expect the Enterprise to not have a Scotty and a back-up Scotty?

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I'm sorry to hear it, Waffles.

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And on a completely different note, Villager got a job that she applied for at McLean Hospital in Belmont (Romneyville), which is Northwest of Boston proper. I'm North of Boston. She asked me today if my landlady had anything where I live that didn't have shared bathroom and kitchen. I told her I would ask, but then after it occurred to me that maybe it's time for she and I to move in together. I'll have to think it over. There are logistical issues to consider, since I'll be transferring to UMass Boston, which, funny enough, is close to where she lives now. But if she's going to be living without roommates, maybe that conversation is overdue.

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So...

Am I spoiled by PD or is it really that easy to piss off internet atheists enough that they block you at the drop of a hat? Because I just got accused of pulling a "good atheist routine" when I was essentially telling the guy that he wasn't convincing anyone but people who already have animosity towards organized religion. When I pointed out that I wasn't an atheist, I got blocked.

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It's also worth noting that her getting a Catholic funeral Mass, in Latin, no less, would have amused her. She was a Neopagan. Her mom wanted to throw the Latin on there for good measure. Her mom was accepting of her beliefs, but she is a Catholic nevertheless.

Me being a PDer is one of those indirect effects of knowing Suzanne. She was the one who introduced me to Neopaganism, and by extension, Discordia, even though she wasn't a Discordian herself.

Hell, the reason I'm with Villager is because of her. That second job I took? That's where I met Villager's brother and became friends with him.

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I attended the wake last night. The undertakers did a good job, but my God, seeing her dead was strange. It was sad. But it was stranger than it was sad. I've gotten over the fact that she died being mad at me and I not being able to resolve it. I found out she was in the hospital because I reached out to her to resolve our issue. If she were still alive and didn't resolve things with me I would have shrugged and gone, "well, I tried." The whole thing was weird. The wake had this sort of, I really am just having a strange dream sort of feel to it, even down to the people there. Even down to the slideshow of pictures. She's been dating her boyfriend for 11 years and there are no pictures of them together. The pictures abruptly end in her early 20s. One of the last ones was my high school graduation. The funeral Mass was said today in New York (her mom insisted on a Latin Mass, and Boston doesn't have any Latin Mass priests anymore). She's being buried tomorrow in her father's grave. I won't be attending. I'm welcome to, but I'm opting not to.

I am sad, but I'm ok. But I'd be lying if I said this wasn't really fucking surreal.

Shit, dude.

Sorry.

Thanks.

After yesterday, though, I feel the worst for her boyfriend. He kept it together but he looked horrible. You know that look? That look of someone so devastated that they can't even lose it anymore?

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I attended the wake last night. The undertakers did a good job, but my God, seeing her dead was strange. It was sad. But it was stranger than it was sad. I've gotten over the fact that she died being mad at me and I not being able to resolve it. I found out she was in the hospital because I reached out to her to resolve our issue. If she were still alive and didn't resolve things with me I would have shrugged and gone, "well, I tried." The whole thing was weird. The wake had this sort of, I really am just having a strange dream sort of feel to it, even down to the people there. Even down to the slideshow of pictures. She's been dating her boyfriend for 11 years and there are no pictures of them together. The pictures abruptly end in her early 20s. One of the last ones was my high school graduation. The funeral Mass was said today in New York (her mom insisted on a Latin Mass, and Boston doesn't have any Latin Mass priests anymore). She's being buried tomorrow in her father's grave. I won't be attending. I'm welcome to, but I'm opting not to.

I am sad, but I'm ok. But I'd be lying if I said this wasn't really fucking surreal.

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Not worth it. I'm not riding up that hill to Magoun Square just for a quick bite.

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Had some beers with a friend that Suzanne and I had in common, and who I hadn't seen in a long time. It was mutually beneficial. I stayed later than I intended but was pleasantly surprised to find that Boston has finally adopted subway hours reasonable for a Friday night. Now to figure out where unhealthy 24 hour food is within reasonable riding distance from home.

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Thanks everyone. Still haven't processed it.

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