Endorsement: I am not convinced you even understand my concepts of moral relativity, so perhaps it would be best for you not to approach them.
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Also, have you seen this yet?Ugh.
Another day, another massive computer hack attackQuoteNing is a personal social networking site founded by the guy who started Netscape, Marc Andreessen. It basically lets you create your own mini MySpace or LiveJournal or whatever you like--a small social networking platform aimed at whatever niche you want. It's had a checkered past, and has struggled to make money; three days ago, Ning announced that it would become pay only and would cancel its free services. It also fired 40% of its staff.
But that's not the really interesting part.
The really interesting part is that it looks like all of Ning, with all the social networks and online forums it hosts, has been pwn3d from balls to bones.
A search for some of the exact words and phrases used by the virus redirectors on nashville.net, one of Ning's social networking sites, produces 1,060,000 results...and as near as I can tell, they are all on Ning.
Now, a conspiracy theorist might come up with all kinds of conspiracies to explain this--disgruntled employees, knowing what was coming, leaving the back door open; executives of a foundering company, desperate for cash, turning a blind eye to Russian malware writers; whatever. I suspect that the reality is what it always is--incompetence, someone asleep at the switch, management that doesn't appreciate security and doesn't want to pay for it...the same sorts of things that seem to be behind this sort of thing almost every time.
But if you use Ning, or you know someone who does, my advice is to leave.
Yeah, that's pretty much what I said. I also basically insinuated that you don't deserve anything more than mittens and a tiny comment.You're right, Cain. That kind of shit isn't unexpected, so it appears that you posted this, expecting replies like that?
Did you plan ahead that you were going to get upset about it when it happened, too?
Yes, it was all secretly planned in advance. A sociological experiment, and you did exactly what I expected.
So now I'm apparently trolling. Fuck this noise.
I don't know why I fucking bother.I should/could have called this whole thread while I was reading the OP, which, btw, I thought was great.
HEY, ASSHOLES! "Ironically" carrying out the actions I criticize isn't funny, smart, cute, intelligent or even vaugely unexpected any more. It does, however, help convince me that between the pedants and terminally unoriginal, I shouldn't actually ever waste my time writing here.
So congratulations. You just witnessed Cain's final rant.
Is "self-satisfaction" considered an ethical system?This. Sometimes self-satisfaction is the feeling that I've done something which is beneficial to others. Sometimes it is screwing a motherfucker over. Seems to work okay.
If so, that's the one I use far more than any others.
If I choose to do something voluntary (that is, not vital to my existence) that makes a person I care about feel guilty and bad about themselves, how much responsibility do I have in causing their hurt feelings?So we're clear... this voluntary action has positive consequences for you, yeah? Apart from the hurting someone else?
Also, what is the appropriate next action to be taken?
But if we don't divide into teams how do I know who to screech at?I didn't realise this thread was about a specific Enki issue, when I agreed with ECH.Never mind teams, I'm just on the side of good discussion.
If it's a battle between Cain and Enki, I'll change teams and agree that this thread is stupid.