Testimonial - Well it seems that most of you "discordians" are little more than dupes of the Cathedral/NWO memetic apparatus after all -- "freethinkers" in the sense that you are willing to think slightly outside the designated boxes of correct thought, but not free in the sense that you reject the existence of the boxes and seek their destruction.
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So we have segregation of minorities and some of the other worst parts of fascism but without the efficiency or national pride. You have the all pervasive and controlling aspects of communism (down to not being allowed to discuss democracy), but none of proper control structure on industry. You have the opening for gross exploitation by industry of pure capitalism, but no opportunity of free trade or movement between corporations.
Frankly this sounds like all of the CONS of every political structure of the last 200 years with none of the PROS.
I second that. But I say they go make an island in the Pacific Ocean and try it.
Pointless anecdote time: So, anyone remember the Supposedly Green Baby Making Machine? One time we were at someone's house and the song "Roxanne" by the Police came on. This chick, who was -of course- pregnant at the time, she always is, starts going on a fucking rant about how she'd like to pop Sting in the mouth with her fist for writing such an insulting sexist song.
"Wait wait," said I. "Isn't this song about him paying a prostitute so she doesn't need to hook that night?"
"Yes!" she cried, emphatically. "And it's fucking sexist. Where does he get off? What gives him the right to say how she can and can't use her body?"
"Wait wait," said I. "Isn't this song about him paying a prostitute so she doesn't need to hook that night? Where does it say he thinks he has the right to say how she uses her own body?"
"He is paying her to stay off the streets. Maybe she likes the streets. Maybe she likes being completely self sufficient. His judgement of her is a moral indictment he has no right to be laying on her."
"You think she prefers hooking, possibly getting beaten up any given night, to someone paying her for nothing and going home?"
"Those men shouldn't be beating her up in the first place."
I gave her a "bitch, please" look, but said nothing. It was then that she brought up the priestesses of Aphrodite, at which point the fetus in her womb punched her in the cunt for being so fucking stupid. Or, so I like to imagine.
I honestly cannot tell if I'm completely incoherent or if people are reading my posts in a way that they want to try and disregard what in saying.
Of course human trafficking is a real problem. But if human trafficking was exactly the same thing as prostitution nobody would ever be able to argue that it's either empowering or consistent with feminism because by definition you are stripped of your rights and power.
However having no money and going to work for a brothel, is not human trafficking. There's a fair argument to say it's disempowering, or even the stronger argument that it CANNOT be empowering but it is not by definition the same thing as human trafficking. Making a distinction doesn't make me unaware of human trafficking any more than saying Genocide is not the same thing as Homocide makes me a holocaust denier.
Jenne so far as I can tell you're saying everything about prostitution is both damaging and linked to every other damaging facet of the industry, so we should consider human trafficking and any other damaging outcome as synonymous with prostitution as a whole?
I'm ok if you want to say; 'for the purpose of discussing prostitution, I want to consider only prostitution connected to trafficking, or something of the kind, but please don't treat me like a complete moron, especially when every single post has acknowledged how large of a problem human trafficking is, and have specifically noted that it's an issue in Australia (mostly a destination country for trafficking from the local Asian nations and internal from preying on indigenous girls in bad situations).
Addendum; Trips point is good that trafficking does make up a major part of prostitution, and I'll admit to not knowing the exact stats. I do know a lot of Aussie protitutes come from Asian backgrounds in poor areas, though I'm not convncec that they're all trafficked (desperate for a means to earn a livelihood perhaps, which isn't good, but isn't by definition trafficking.) I guess when talking about 'is prostitution femininist' it seems to me important to focus on the variety of scenarios out there not singularly on the most heinous.
Plus babies are such wrinkly pink monstrosities that there is no clear indicator of their sex when they're clothed.
It would be awesome if Mattel et al would come up with neuter/both boy AND girl makeup/doll/dress up sets. Or if giving pink to a boy didn't signal in the West* a "mistake in gender identity."
*There's no "pink" taboo in my husband's family, and so maybe extrapolatable to his culture? because his favorite photo of himself as a baby is when his grandmother is holding him on a raspberry pink blanket while he's wearing a pastel pink sweatersuit and hat! ...NOT that I expect we'll see the mujaheds or Talibs in the region wearing Prince's raspberry berets, but one can hope, can't one?
Maybe they're still operating under the "old" tradition of pink as a strong color.