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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Misinfo Wars
« on: November 28, 2016, 10:15:34 pm »

Bring and Brag / Re: P3nT's Shoops
« on: November 28, 2016, 07:13:34 pm »
Sweaty little goblin bastard

One man's intuition is another mans complete inability to explain his own thought process.

Artificial intelligence has been routinely portrayed with the inability to grasp irrational human concepts like humor, metaphors, and spontaneous creativity.

I'm guessing these will be among the first things we see in emergent machines.

I'm pretty sure it's us that's unable to grasp these concepts in a succinct enough way to code or train a network. We're operating right on the edge of human understanding now. Pretty soon the machines will be operating way beyond that. Being a traditional coder, the sheer amount of black-boxing that goes on in AI development freaks me out more than a little. Software development seems to be transitioning from an engineering discipline to a one of those stupid soft sciences like psychology or sociology. Count me the fuck out :argh!:

Aneristic Illusions / Re: Godwin's Law in the 21st Century
« on: November 25, 2016, 09:41:35 am »
Edit: change of heart

Too late, but good: if you're done, then I'm done. I'm tired of this.

Be civil to me, and I will be civil in return. Be nice to me, and I will be nice in return. Be an asshole to me, and I will be ten times the asshole in return.

Is this some kind of decimal take on wiccanism?

Aneristic Illusions / Re: Misinfo Wars
« on: November 24, 2016, 10:33:54 pm »
Makes more sense to me just to cherry pick ones that look likely to best serve my agenda (whatever that might be at any given moment in time) and do my best to help them spread.

This level of self-awareness can be a characteristic of enlightenment, but also of villainous malice. :wink:


Have you, by any chance, read  The Celestine Prophecy by Carlos Castaneda?

Bring and Brag / Re: P3nT's Shoops
« on: November 24, 2016, 07:47:05 pm »

I've been getting bits and pieces. Lot of cash is being flung at it and I've no idea what they're even talking about half the time. They built something called d-wave that (apparently) is or isn't a quantum computer depending on who you listen to. According to M$ they're moving it from research to engineering whatever the fuck that's meant to mean. Truth is - it's anybody's guess. As far as I'm concerned it could be "soon" and when it does arrive shit is going to get real interesting vis a vis unbreakable encryption, by all accounts. :evil:

Best for me is a toss up between DK and AKK. I'm leaning DK cos AKK came back and it was just a total mehfest. The magic was gone  :cry:

Beyond the wall / Re: Awesome art
« on: November 23, 2016, 06:04:58 pm »
It's f'kin epic win. Great idea, great execution. Not getting the globalised economy thing but what do I know?

This has to have a few interesting implications to encryption too. Humans are terrible with randomness so having an AI construct that is able to create an indecipherable unique language at will seems like the kind of thing that will be very useful in certain circumstances.

The word on the street is quantum could, in theory, make encryption obsolete. The usual suspects appear to be getting pretty close to production solutions. It's still very early days but I get the impression we're a couple of breakthroughs away from whatever the fuck happens next.

Did you see the thing about access to medical data for deepmind? Not got into it properly yet but there's a bunch of good and bad implications with that lot too.

In that instance I'm firmly leaning toward the pros vastly outweighing the cons to the tune of the potential for pretty much all forms of not being well, up to and including death itself to be solved, on a much faster timeline than by not giving these algorithms access to the training data they need to perform the analysis.

Yes there is potential for abuse. As is generally the case with any and all forms of systematic abuse we've collectively invented before, there's every possibility it won't lead to the complete end of civilisation as we know it.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: Godwin's Law in the 21st Century
« on: November 23, 2016, 05:45:06 pm »
Reminds me a bit of DK, with the condescension thing

A forum full of condescending people accusing condescending people of being condescending?

If each of us leans back hard enough, perhaps we can all look down on each other.

Go on, gimme an example where I condescended on you. I double dog dare you. :argh!:


As DNN's and the like become more complex and learning increasingly unattended, more and more their operations become unfathomable to meatware. Potential for lulz are off the charts.

Q) "Skynet - why did you nuke Sweden?"
A) "#1#B:)"w8;,1"lk"

Aneristic Illusions / Re: Misinfo Wars
« on: November 23, 2016, 12:52:09 pm »
Which I think, while not unreasonable, causes a problem because human beings are not really rational most of the time. Decisions are made in a split second based on gut feelings. The extra energy and time required to vet every piece of incoming information for accuracy is too demanding. 

Personally I view the whole truth thing a lot like DNS propagation. Someone advances an argument that is met with consensus. Takes a while for this to percolate around to the point where it enters group consensus. Whether it's objectively true or not is mostly irrelevant. For something to be considered true the only criterion it's required to meet is mass acceptance.

What's changed with the internet is the speed at which these truths propagate around the hivemind. By extension, they can be replaced with more popular worldviews at the same speed. So now we're living in a maelstrom of ever shifting truths. There's barely enough time to consider a fact before it's been superseded by half a dozen conflicting ones. Consensus? Forget it.

My personal opinion is why bother even trying. There's little or no profit or lulz in doing so and it's fucking impossible to boot. Makes more sense to me just to cherry pick ones that look likely to best serve my agenda (whatever that might be at any given moment in time) and do my best to help them spread.

Beyond the wall / Re: Split from turning purple
« on: November 23, 2016, 08:05:51 am »

But keep fucking that chicken, pal.

I will fuck this chicken as long as it continues to win elections.

I've had experience with those kinds of chickens, mate. It always ends up with me feeling used and needing rabies shots.

Shit son thats a one liner so pithy it convinced me to abandon my political beliefs, my growing political movement and take up the banner of failed completely bankrupt liberalism once again.

Dude, that was a two-liner. Try to keep up.

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