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Careful Cainad, Mexica Rain Gods don't like to be poked fun at.  :lulz:

Bastard! You beat me to it :argh!:

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Early meditations on Mind
« on: November 12, 2008, 06:38:19 pm »
It makes sense though, doesn't it?  Why else would the smartest beings on earth :cn: be susceptible to mistakes a lower animal would never make? :cn:  Why are we simultaneously the most advanced and yet the most mistake-prone species :cn: on earth?


The more complex a system becomes the more unpredictability creeps in. Our minds seem to be complex enough to put us on a level which (whilst maybe not the top of the planet) would certainly be well up there.

The last I heard animal psychologists point blank refuse to attribute 'self awareness' in any degree to the rest of the animal kingdom. Whether or not I agree with this statement I would certainly agree that we seem to possess this meta-faculty to a far greater extent than the rest of the animal kingdom and I'm sure that's got a lot to do with the problem you mention.

Only a human has sufficient degree of meta thought to question why they got dealt their lot in life. Only a human is capable of thinking "Fuck this, I'm going to cut off my own genitals and post the pictures on BME"

We're an ant colony that doesn't take orders from the queen.

We're a flock of starlings with no flight plan, arguing about why we should all fly south for the winter.

We are, at the same time, the most impressive and the most ridiculous of all the beasts.

Yay us!

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Furries in general don't bother me, just the people who pretend to be somebody from Sonic the Hedgehog, because its terribly unoriginal and uncreative.  (The first couple people might have had some measure of creativity, but the next few hundred thousand sure don't.)

This also extends to people whose RP character's background amounts to "I am the last survivor of my tribe, which was slaughtered by a man in a black cloak/myrdraal/Uchiha Itachi/Stormtroopers/whatever the fuck the bad guys in Eragon were."  It's not lame to pretend to be somebody/something else, it's lame to do it poorly.

coincidentally this is my whole beef with Hayden Christensen

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That's kinda my point. The thread is "do you believe in a soul. The minute science was brought into the mix it became a hiding to nowhere. We are left with the classic science v's philosophy stand-off.

Hilarious tho it is, it seems to get a lot of people pissed off.

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The argument that science and art can't mix is bullshit.

Agreed, look at what they did with the Mandelbrot sets but, as a generalisation, it holds true.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Indecision 08 Wingnut thread
« on: November 12, 2008, 12:31:01 pm »
I also don't understand why people have such a hankering NEED to have assault weapons, but thats a question for another time.

It's basic strategy and it leads directly to the arms race, megadeath and mutually assured destruction.

Basically if you have a gun and next door gets one then there is a status quo. You have no advantage. However if you get your hands on an assault rifle then you have the advantage.

For some reason logic seems to fly out the window at this point and none of the gun freaks can take on board the concept that maybe their neighbor will get an assault rifle too. This lack of foresight is crucial because without it war would be much less funny.

Mark my words, when the "cold dead hands" squad get the rights to bear assault rifles there'll be a campaign to legalise rocket launchers the very next week. This will continue right up until Johnny redneck is stockpiling Multi yield ICBM's in his back yard  :lulz:

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You'll get flamed all right. The only thing that reacts more zealously than a religious fanatic when their belief system is under attack is a scientist.


:backs slowly out of thread:

Or we just ignore the dumbfucks who forget that science is responsible for modern living. I firmly believe that if you don't like science, get the hell off your computer, turn your electricity and plumbing off, move out of your house into a yurt and start using "medical" techniques like bloodletting again. Yay, doesn't that sound like so much FUN?

The reason most biologists don't take the time to argue with creationists has nothing to do with not knowing answers. It has everything to do with not wanting to deal with people who can't understand basic biology (if they wanted to teach, they would have gone into education), having no patience for people who can't handle basic tennents of biology (like evolution), and frankly have better things to do, like real research that brings about new cancer treatments, or describing organisms new to science, or, I don't know, creating something practical from past research that increases our ability to cope with this modern world.

If fundies and pseudo-scientists can't grok this, then fuck em. We have better things to do than pander to people still stuck in the middle ages, not from oppression or poverty, but out of ignorance.

Here's my theory and I can't prove it scientifically so ignore it as you will.

There is science and there is art and never the twain shall meet.

Artists get pissed off with scientists cos science kills the inspiration stone dead. Try writing a poem about feeling you can fly with a scientist yapping in your ear about how classic Newtonian physics expressly prohibits this characteristic and you'll get the picture. Art is magical and mystical and science is all about debunking that kind of thing.

Scientists get pissed off with artists because art is, by it's very nature, subjective and the mere mention of subjectivity is anathema to the scientist. Subjective leads to bad science and only objectivity has ever been any use to the human race. You can't prove beauty (although there was a theory it had to do with symmetry) You can't measure or quantify a sonnet.

I'm pretty sure this is the reason lab coats are white, instead of paisley pattern.

Philosophy is art. Never try to argue philosophy on scientific terms. By the same token - never try to prove science to a philosopher. Both will merely lead to great lulz and lulz are most definitely art.

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Are you saying tears are made of sugar too?

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You'll get flamed all right. The only thing that reacts more zealously than a religious fanatic when their belief system is under attack is a scientist.


:backs slowly out of thread:

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I really don't even know how to put this....SPERMIES SWIM IN SUGAR FLUID.

LIES! Sperm tastes salty :argh!:

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I always figured furry was probably more an aesthetic thing for most practitioners.

Some people like blondes, some brunettes. Some people like fishnets and suspenders and some prefer them with fake cat ears and whiskers.

Like anything else, it's taken to extremes on the fringes but think about this - playboy bunnies are, technically speaking, a mild form of furry and I'm sure as hell I wouldn't think twice about nailing one of those.  :fap:

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I remember seeing this website about a dude that had a sexual relationship with a dolphin, one time.  he claimed that he would swim out into the ocean to meet his love, and they would have sex.  he drew pictures and poetry and crap. I think he fantasized about dolphinpomorphizing himself in some of his 'art'....
would he be a furry? (since there is no fur involved)...
what if you dress up as a naked mole rat?....

Thanks, I now have a burning curiosity to see what someone dressed up as a naked mole rat would look like  :argh!:

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Meh, whatever consenting adults want to do behind their closed doors doesn't bother me.

I kind of like it when I DON'T know all the freaky things strangers do with each other. If it's my friends and it turns out that they like to dress in clown costumes and fuck while eating cotton candy, I WILL make fun of them. However, if complete strangers tell me that they like to dress in clown costumes and fuck while eating cotton candy... actually, I'll also make fun of them.
if i wasn't at work i would invoke rule 34


Filling a baloon with live termites, shoving it up someones ass and then setting fire to it ....

GO!

Then a rain of the burning bugs should be sprayed out the ass onto someone's face.

Together we will break rule 34 ... Mwuhahaha!!!!

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Meh, whatever consenting adults want to do behind their closed doors doesn't bother me.

I kind of like it when I DON'T know all the freaky things strangers do with each other. If it's my friends and it turns out that they like to dress in clown costumes and fuck while eating cotton candy, I WILL make fun of them. However, if complete strangers tell me that they like to dress in clown costumes and fuck while eating cotton candy... actually, I'll also make fun of them.
if i wasn't at work i would invoke rule 34


Filling a baloon with live termites, shoving it up someones ass and then setting fire to it ....

GO!

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Gotta admit Furries strike me more as just plain wierd. Most fetishes do, tho.

You are a hyper-evolved squishy monkey-thing with a mind made of meat living on a spinning ball that's called "Earth" despite the fact that it's mostly covered in water which is orbiting a gigantic fusion reactor and moving at incredible speeds that you can't feel and are communicating impossibly quickly with someone on another continent using a bunch of lines and dots which your meat-brain somehow interprets as meaning things relevant to you via a non-physical connection between two glowing boxes. *Takes a deep breath* At the risk of sounding rude, I'm curious to know what your definition of 'weird' is, and why you think it's a bad thing.

I have no definition of weird, I just slap the label on, on a case by case basis.

I also by no means equate weird with bad. Bad is a separate label that bears no relation to weird.

Some weird things cause my lunch to defy gravity. Furries, scat, amputee pron and Ann Widdecombe spring immediately to mind.

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