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Was thinking more along the lines of - scars are what's left when a wound has healed. Scars are the memory of the damage the shrapnel made.

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Or Kill Me / Re: the ultimate hipocrisy in a post (an apt 5oth)
« on: July 16, 2008, 03:00:47 pm »
this "one truth" that we've found is that there is no spoon?


Then what did I stab the waiter with?

I believe that was a chainsaw.

*hint* Most spoons don't come with a hole to put the gas in

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / New Shrapnel extension meme - Scars
« on: July 16, 2008, 02:25:41 pm »
Shrapnel, when removed, leaves scars.

Without the shrapnel there are no scars.

Without either shrapnel or scars there is no personality.

I prefer the company of people who's personality consists mainly of scars than those who seem predominantly composed of shrapnel.

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Vs. Organized Religion
« on: July 16, 2008, 09:17:37 am »
it wasn't until mushrooms that i really started questioning reality...

I wonder how many times that sentence has been uttered  :lulz:

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Vs. Organized Religion
« on: July 15, 2008, 09:56:26 am »
I was raised in a protestant school. Once a week some prick in a dog collar would lecture us on jesus and love and peace and shit like that. Meanwhile the older kids kids were teaching me to hate catholics and where the best places were to go kick the shit out of them.

I kinda preferred the shit-kicking to the stories about jesus.

Years later I went on summer camp which turned out to be 'scripture union' organised (I was 13 - I didn't know what the fuck SU was!) The next thing a bunch of hippies were trying to brainwash me whilst I was busy trying to get drunk and lose my virginity.

I kinda preferred the drunken sex to the stories about jesus.


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I think Pent and I are thinking in similar directions.

I have some stuff in draft being poked at by other people, once I'm sure its clear and useful I'll post it. Until then, I'll leave you with this:

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From my point of view, anyway, other than some weird philanthropic mission to help others escape (not really my style) there is no real way to progress, it's almost like it's saying "Hey! Congratulations, you broke out" and I'm like, "so now what?

So now, you get to explore. You get to order things and disorder them without being required to think that one or the other is Right or Wrong. You get to embrace the limitations that our physical neurological system has as safety controls to keep us from being overrun with new data, or you get to curse the limitations that restrict you from utter freedom. They can be your vehicle or your prison... but now, as opposed to before, YOU GET TO DECIDE.



i think that's the distinction between the BIP and the GSP - one is passive and the other active. it's like the difference between being a passenger and being the driver.

So we're on the same page at least. Anyone ready to start on a sequel?

The BIP is how to get your bearings, how to read the map, how to not eat the menu.

I can't help thinking it's been done now. Maybe the way forward is to publish the menu. I been cooking up a storm for the last 10 years or more but I'm not so full of myself I don't think there's dishes out there I've yet to savour. If only I had a map that showed me where all the good restaurants are. :D

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Bring and Brag / Re: Long overdue
« on: July 11, 2008, 09:29:39 pm »

:tittens:

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back to the pool table model, the balls are able to mold the bumps and dips on the table, right?


I've played on a few really fucked out old tables in my time. The balls are how the bumps and dips get there in the first place.

Well, a mixture of that and high speed human faces :evil:

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: The Origin of the Universe
« on: July 11, 2008, 09:06:58 pm »
if time were to stop, then how long would it stop for?

I been mulling this over in my head all day and I'm pretty sure it'd be twenty eight and half minutes

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This IS before sunday. Why hasn't he posted them  :argh!:

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To clarify: I'm not really sitting in a tizzy wondering what to do next. I just feel things could be taken further. Exploring the world outside, so to speak.

It's already been done but seems to have stagnated some time around the 1950's and rehashed and rewritten ad nauseum, ever since. I can't help thinking there's a better way to do it than invoking that dreaded 'M' word.

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The metaphor for me is a good one. I like it a lot but, having said that, it is only useful when one is imprisoned. I believe it's possible to escape from the state described by the BIP, 'jailbreak' as the saying goes. From that point on a new model is required because the BIP has served it's purpose and doesn't really offer a way to progress. It's still useful as a reminder that, at any point, you could slip up, forget what you've learned and end up back 'in jail'

I know we've been over this before re: the negative connotations of the phrase 'prison' but I really think the BIP would be best served as part of a .... erm .... duology (okay I give in, what the fuck is the correct term for a series of two books?)

From my point of view, anyway, other than some weird philanthropic mission to help others escape (not really my style) there is no real way to progress, it's almost like it's saying "Hey! Congratulations, you broke out" and I'm like, "so now what?"

I think there are a few of us here who have broken out. Anyone have any thoughts on what to do next, or does the BIP just end with "they all lived happily ever after, in jail"?

And before you all start jumping down my throat, I know I'm still trapped by the mechanism described by the BIP. The very fact that I am aware of this is the escape of which I speak. Not true release from bondage but enough of a release to make the prison behave like a whole different animal.

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Make them heavy hamster balls. Steerable, but hard.

We have a winnar!

Especially when you consider that the plexiglass is going to distort what you see outside :wink:

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: The Origin of the Universe
« on: July 11, 2008, 09:25:18 am »
The astrophysicists seem fairly certain at this point this week that the universe is infinite.  The reasoning for this is beyond me though.

fixd for accuracy

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