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Or Kill Me / Re: Plus, I Got Religion
« on: March 13, 2009, 06:11:05 pm »
I'm completely in favor of separation of church and state, but lack of religion is not requisite to being a good leader or scientist, IMO.

Hell no. IMO there's virtually no such thing as a good leader, leadership is one of those "necessary evils" with the emphasis on "evil" and a big question mark hanging over the "necessary" parts. My point is that strong religious conviction will make it worse never better

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Or Kill Me / Re: Plus, I Got Religion
« on: March 13, 2009, 02:17:34 pm »

The Catholics aren't the only ones who destroyed opposition.  Even the Taoists have a psycho nutbag in their history.


Lest we forget the Talibans or Iran under the Ayatollah - it's the reason church and state should be kept separate. At least with a normal government things will be fucked up but nowhere near as bad as a rule by people who, by their vary nature, will believe in any old laughably ridiculous bullshit. When these people are given power it gets a lot messier a lot quicker than when your average power hungry would be dictator gets the reins.

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Or Kill Me / Re: Plus, I Got Religion
« on: March 13, 2009, 01:42:53 pm »
My point being, of course, is that I personally would take two of whatever it was I was curious about and add another 2, then count them.

Voila: 2 Savannah Monitors + 2 white mice = 2 Savannah Monitors.

Then I'd have to encode my findings in an elaborate piece of artwork so I didn't get burned for heresy.

I'm biased against religion because it has a history of burning people for the crime of dicovering useful stuff.

I'm also personally biased against adopting it because it's a very closed and stagnant form of reality modelling and, therefore, utterly useless to me. I wouldn't want to impose this view on anyone who insists on believing it tho, there are opportunities to scam moneys off people like this. Even if I haven't yet tapped into this potential revenue stream it is reassuring to know that it's available if I need it. Customer gullibility is the holy grail of marketing.

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Or Kill Me / Re: Plus, I Got Religion
« on: March 13, 2009, 12:30:48 pm »
Of course if Joe was to open his book it would say "2+2=5"

He's reading the KKV right? And I'm assuming Mary has the Orthodox :mrgreen:

Suppose we want to work out what 2+2 equals.

Do you suppose either of these versions would be of any use to us?

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Literate Chaotic / Re: Alan Moore on superheroes, and other things
« on: March 13, 2009, 11:13:44 am »
Good interview but he really does come across as a tunnel-visioned, crotchety old fuck at times.

So he doesn't see the art in movies. Therefore they suck. What about the actor's performances? The lighting, set design. Or the much hated CGI as a thing of beauty, art for art's sake. Compared to old fashioned shit like the mona lisa, even shit movies like League of Extraordinary Gentlemen are more immersive and able to hold the attention longer. Problem with an intellectual high horse is you tend to get stuck up there in the saddle. Perhaps not everyone watches movies to get spoonfed a story, like you do with books and comics?

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If we are going to spend our money upon film, then let's start valuing the people that produce wonderful things with very little to go on. Let's stop being so childishly awed by what are essentially fireworks displays.

If you don't go "ooooooh" when a firework goes off then you're halfway to dead imo.

Pet hate - intellectual/cultural snobbery

I'd take a blowjob from a cheap hooker over a 1933 Armagnac any day.

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Or Kill Me / Re: God Does Not Remove the Terror of Science!!!!
« on: March 12, 2009, 10:59:42 pm »
We are being trolled by a bunch of fucking children  :x

I suddenly find myself missing the smartest guy on the internets  :cry:

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Or Kill Me / Re: Plus, I Got Religion
« on: March 12, 2009, 06:57:13 pm »
Was this guy I think

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Or Kill Me / Re: Plus, I Got Religion
« on: March 12, 2009, 05:46:22 pm »
Religious Faith + accepting what the guys in the hats tell you as gospel = the equivalent of running your pc without a firewall and antivirus

There are a lot of "hackers" out there, if you point blank refuse to apply critical analysis to your belief-system, especially when dealing with outrageous far-fetched shit, you will be exploited, it's just a matter of time.

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Yes. You have to kill this person ASAP or it gets really weird and dangerous for you and your family.

srsly  :fnord:

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Or Kill Me / Re: God Does Not Remove the Terror of Science!!!!
« on: March 12, 2009, 12:45:43 pm »
Cool position, I can relate but what's with the "terror" of science? I just don't get the terror factor.

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Or Kill Me / Re: Save Our Kids
« on: March 12, 2009, 12:41:29 pm »
Mmmm...
The concept of 'the media' is in flux right now to our favor...

I've been saying this same thing for ages. Internets will eventually supercede everything as the delivery system for newspapers, magazines, cd's, dvd's, television .... media

The difference?

We all have a printing press, record factory, movie/tv studio and we can all get media out there. Much higher quality and much more easily than before.

Have fun pissing in the mainstream everyone, cos they aint going to be able to stop us :lulz:

... and then we'll all die of ass cancer

better?

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Or Kill Me / Re: Save Our Kids
« on: March 12, 2009, 11:04:32 am »
Mmmm...
The concept of 'the media' is in flux right now to our favor...

I've been saying this same thing for ages. Internets will eventually supercede everything as the delivery system for newspapers, magazines, cd's, dvd's, television .... media

The difference?

We all have a printing press, record factory, movie/tv studio and we can all get media out there. Much higher quality and much more easily than before.

Have fun pissing in the mainstream everyone, cos they aint going to be able to stop us :lulz:

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Or Kill Me / Re: Thanks!
« on: March 11, 2009, 11:05:30 pm »
Fucking nail on the head, Cram. Heroes don't get to be heroes in situations where everything is handed to them on a plate. Question I'm always asking myself is "if they made a video game out my life, would I want to play it?"

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Or Kill Me / Re: Thanks!
« on: March 11, 2009, 09:40:08 pm »
 :awesome:

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Or Kill Me / Thanks!
« on: March 11, 2009, 09:20:57 pm »
If we hadn't grown up in jail we wouldn't know what it feels like to kick down the walls.

If we hadn't had to learn to fight for freedom and steal it from right under their noses, to flaunt it in their miserable grey faces, to laugh at their blind obedience to rules, both written and unwritten, dictated to some degree by the state but imposed, much more rigidly, by themselves...

...Why, if that hadn't been the hand we was dealt, I reckon we'd have been bored out our fucking skulls.

Thanks big brother. Thanks for sticking us in a cage and telling us , over and over, to do what we was told. What to think, when to think it, how to act, what to say, what to buy, how to wear it. Thanks for setting guards on all the exits, and traps beyond the fences. Thanks for making sure we was watched as closely as it could be arranged, at all times. Thanks for setting us the challenge, throwing down the gauntlet.

Thanks also for keeping us in the dark about the game and the cost of playing. Thanks for never telling us the prize for cheating. If we'd known about it, the whole act of finding it would have seemed so much less intense. Like the movie where the hero is chasing something that everyone says doesn't exist. We always prefer those movies to the ones where the goal is clear from the outset.

Rumours and myth and legend lay a trail of clues, to the fringes of society. Where secrets and maps and keys and and promises of all kinds of treasure lay in wait.

The winds that blow through these places whisper "Freedom". Some of us learn what that word means and, every once in a while, we'll cross paths with someone else who scratched the itch and braved the gauntlet and lived to tell the tale. And we'll know, by looking one another in the eye, we earned that shit, paid for it in blood sweat and tears and we wouldn't trade it for the world.

Most especially, big brother, thanks for never quite being able to still these winds.

Srsly!


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