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Or Kill Me / Re: Dada Black Sheep: Have You Any Pull?
« on: May 28, 2009, 01:50:18 pm »

Incoherence is and unexpected juxtaposition is still effective though.

Agreed. It's how zen koans work. Basic psychological premise. I'm reminded of a quote I saw on a book once - "Clive Barker dislocates your mind".

Or Kill Me / Re: Grubby Elbows, Bastard Children, and Bums
« on: May 28, 2009, 08:40:18 am »
I hate the public. Srsly. I worked with those useless bastard things for two fucking years. Never again.

Or Kill Me / Re: Dada Black Sheep: Have You Any Pull?
« on: May 27, 2009, 11:17:35 pm »
Nonsense is dead. Just like punk and the hippy movement. It died the minute the consumer machine began feasting on it's corpse.

Either lead with something new or follow something old. There is no in-between.

The punk and hippie movements are not dead, they are recontextualized into consumerism. To characterize them as "dead movements" seems to identify that movement's "life" with its countercultural weight.

The argument put forth by Christine Harold in Ourspace is that it's a false dichotomy. "Coolness", and "the revolution" is produced by a commercial need - the need for an authentic experience which is not contained by the establishment. In doing so, all counterculture ultimately serves the establishment.

In their book Nation of Rebels, philosophers Joseph Heath and Andrew Potter go to great lengths to dispel as myth the notion of an unbranded, utopian space populated by countercultural outliers... [They] argue that rather than offering an alternative to rampant consumerism, countercultural "rebellion" is actually the engine that drives the competitive consumption on which neoliberal capitalism thrives. Contemporary culture, according to Heath and Potter, does not lack choice, or simply offer a mass-produced conformity masquerading as choice. Instead, our love of all things "alternative", "indie", and "authentic" produces "cool" assets (like MySpace), which capitalists like Rupert Murdoch want desperately to add to their holdings. Hence, for Heath and Potter, "Countercultural rebellion is not just unhelpful, it is positively counterproductive."

So the point then is not
          whether or not absurdity is effective in fighting the Man.

Absurdity is powerful is because it is one of the few tools not easily manipulated by the forces of commercialism.

What I was getting at was the product lifecycle - counterculture leads. It leads to product. At that stage it ceases to be innovative or, to be more precise, it generally ceases to be as innovative. Once the product lifecycle has dragged it through the mill from "in-crowd" early adopters to bargain basement - yesterdays news, I would class the movement as dead (me and the marketting men, both)

Absurdism has been done. Post war underground revolution was strictly counterculture. Python and their ilk introduced it to the early adopters and it shot into the mainstream like a fucking torpedo, blowing up everything in it's path. The point where I'd have planted it's gravestone was when the Crazy Frog tune got in the charts. Nowadays you can't give that shit away.

Time for something new.

Or Kill Me / Re: Dada Black Sheep: Have You Any Pull?
« on: May 27, 2009, 04:32:59 pm »
Nonsense is dead. Just like punk and the hippy movement. It died the minute the consumer machine began feasting on it's corpse.

Either lead with something new or follow something old. There is no in-between.

Techmology and Scientism / Re: Water wars?
« on: May 26, 2009, 10:51:23 am »
Water might stop running out of taps. Tough shit domesticated primates :lulz:

Water will still be there but I'm guessing without 'H' and 'C' signs a lot of people are going to get real thirsty. They're welcome to use mine. I'll even write 'CAUTION: CONTENTS MAY BE WET' on it so they don't have accidents but it's gonna fucking cost 'em :ECH:

Or Kill Me / Re: Obituaries: The end in IMAX
« on: May 26, 2009, 10:40:43 am » won't be the pretty chaos you think you beg for some times when you're  high or meeting other discordians, this will be the howling fury...


Insomnia sucks - I'll vouch for that.

Man exists, insofar as he is opposed.

Ironically the impression I get from reading this rant is you don't seem to realise you are under direct opposition of the most heinous kind.

Your own brain is against you right now - kick that fucker into touch!

Lemme get this straight - Honey comes on the internets and then gets all butthurt and complainey cos we're all acting as if we was on the internets?

word of advice:
When in Rome - do what the romans do
When on the internets - forget you're even fucking human


Bring and Brag / Re: Fractals
« on: May 22, 2009, 09:48:00 am »
One other question: is there hardware/software that allows you to literally paint a digital image?

yes, it is the blessed program Microsoft Paint

it is the way and the light

and the wrath


Thanks for the tip.  But I'm thinking in terms of literally putting paint on a canvas.  I'm not planning on going out and buying the hardware and software that would be required to do such a thing; I'm just curious if the technology exists.

I had an idea a while back that I still haven't put into practice. Involved taking an image and reducing the palette to maybe 8 or 16 colours then magnifying it until each pixel was a fairly large square and numbering these in a grid. Next thing is reproduce the grid dimensions on a wall and then paint in the squares in corresponding colours.

I figure if the squares/pixels on the wall were about 2 inches across it would look pretty abstract from close up but you'd see the picture clearly from a bit of a distance.

Or Kill Me / Re: Skymarshal Sepia
« on: May 22, 2009, 09:30:41 am »
Scribus is pile of complete arse and that's probably being really generous. Try open office writer or impress - both of those save to pdf out the box. They're no MS products but they aint a kick in the arse away and they're free. My main gripe with Scribus, other than the fact that every single operation available is implemented in the stupidest, klunkiest way imaginable, is the fact that it seems to go through memory like a british MP goes through an expenses kitty - by the time you have half a dozen pages together you'll need a kray supercomputer to stand any chance of scrolling down to page 7 in your own lifetime. :argh!:

Or Kill Me / Re: I has intermittens, ASK ME ANYTHING
« on: May 18, 2009, 09:06:14 am »
if you don't get it, go away, then walk again

Couldn't have put it better myself  :kingmeh:


Puppy has perfected the "Do not fuck with me" - look

Next step - we train him to steal fast cars

It's all part of being as normal as me. Try not to be too alarmed the feeling of disorientation will pass soon.

Imagining Gwen Stefani and dildoes is a perfectly healthy male thing to do. No help necessary. Yuo're just as normal as me :evil:

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