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Nope - we managed this clusterfuck without the aid of a theocracy  :lulz:

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Richard Nixon's glittering half-life sarcophagus / Re: Ok, I'm back...
« on: November 04, 2009, 02:09:21 pm »
Just tell me which threads are worth my time, and I'll let the rest of them float to the bottom.

couple of pics in the halloween costume thread worthy of legendary fappage and that's about it

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Happy?

f'kin spelling police  :argh!:

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Richard Nixon's glittering half-life sarcophagus / Re: Ok, I'm back...
« on: November 04, 2009, 12:50:33 pm »
Mindbendingly lame troll using DK's shtick but without the same finesse

Oh, yeah, and Roger, in his wrath, meted out a flood upon Stonehaven and now Payne is missing presumed drowned.

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Richard Nixon's glittering half-life sarcophagus / Re: I can haz puppy
« on: November 04, 2009, 12:48:15 pm »
*update* animal is now 8 months old. Still has nads but not for much longer.







Check out his new "Sylar - Haunt!" command ...


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Phew! I thought we had a problem. Three cheers for god, eh?  :D

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Pretty much everything as I understand it. We've built the biggest castle in the history of the universe on a bed of thick runny black sand  :lulz:

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An unproductive mouth, chewing at the kill, is one too many.

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The monkey brain is hard wired for authority, leadership, and dom/sub relationships, so it's an uphill battle. I think there may one day be pockets of people who are socialized to get over some parts of their monkey programming. But these will be oasises. Like the hippie communes of the 60s, they can only exist in isolation, and are only a utopia for those that buy in. That being said, it sounds like a nice place to live.

I don't think that model of living will ever gain primacy because there's too much chaos built into humans. I consider myself an upstanding dude, but I can only imagine how I'd act if there were no cops around to regulate my behavior.

Do what I do and fuck off into the wilderness. The answer, in my case, is to get disgustingly drunk and then find some new and exiting way to risk injury or death.

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Just call me VV, double V, or fuckface, or whatever. :wave:
2) I think it'll happen naturally as our race matures. Disconnecting "from the chain-of-command mode of thinking and living" is a natural and logical next step.
I like your optimism.   :)

That's not optimism. Optimism is knowing that for a long time before that happens I'll be able to sit back and watch monkeys beating each other over the head with increasingly heavy sticks :lulz:

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Not all of us. Some of us are more and more aware of our poop-fixation and thats a half step to getting over it.

So a few monkeys wake up.  That's happened before.  I think they called it "The Enlightenment".

And here we are today, free as birds.   :lulz:

Patience old chap. Rome wasn't built in a day.  :wink:

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if there's no hierarchy, no chain of command, whose back is gonna be up against the wall when the revolution comes?


leaders give us somebody to blame. And lynch. I fear what would happen in a non-representative democracy, where the majority rules with an iron fist.

The headless fascist! You thought Hitler was bad? Wait'll you get a load of the next one  :lulz:

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Not all of us. Some of us are more and more aware of our poop-fixation and thats a half step to getting over it.

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I'm not saying the addictive property of power is theoretically impossible to resist. All I'm saying is that in 2million years of human evolution it's never happened yet. :D
It's all that damned agriculture!
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I'm not a big Jared Diamond fan.  However, lately, I've been wondering what might have happened if technological development had been given ample lead-time to achieve its modern level of sophistication within a hunter-gather society, rather than the agriculturally based communities which achieved dominance and led to the rise of city-states.  If homo sapiens had not settled down, is it possible that they might have laid the groundwork for non-hierarchical society, and if so, what do you suppose it might be like?  How might technology have manifested differently, in light of modern-day insights into the exponential nature of technological and computational development (or would these trends still apply in a non-hierarchical world)?

I'd really like to read any relevant material that touches on these questions/ideas, if anyone would be kind enough to recommend.  Specifically, I'm interested in the possibilities of engineering a non-hierarchical society, quite distinct from an "anarchical" society.  A non-hierarchical society which utilized modern technology would probably also look quite different than the few existing hunter-gatherer societies left in the world today, but I imagine there might be some interesting similarities.     

I like to think of this in contrast with a particularly useful metaphor which I've seen thrown around here before... something about throwing sand in the gears of the System instead of a wrench.  Is it possible to ever truly destroy society's dominant heirarchical structures from within, given enough of the right kind of sand?  I personally experience a satisfying degree of disconnect from the chain-of-command mode of thinking and living the more that I become involved with the work/play that I do, the more I feel that it is an end unto itself, and I'm curious as to whether anyone else has had any thoughts about how to encourage this in a large enough way that it could actually upset the dominant heirarchical nature of modern society, or what possible factors could lead to such an upset.


1) Who the fuck are you?

2) I think it'll happen naturally as our race matures. Disconnecting "from the chain-of-command mode of thinking and living" is a natural and logical next step.

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China or Redemption?

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