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Or Kill Me / Re: Its all circling the drain.
« on: March 16, 2009, 03:16:28 pm »
Humanity: The universe will be destroyed. One planet at a time  :lulz:
Don't be silly were not getting off this rock.



We have to. This thing is much bigger than just polluting and ruining one lousy planet.

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Or Kill Me / Re: The flower
« on: March 16, 2009, 03:15:02 pm »
I like flowers.

Nothing wrong with a little sunshine and optimism once in a while, either. I did the whole jaded, bitter, and apocalypse-heralding thing in the 90's, but like most of the other pretentious gen-Xers I grew up and got over it.

Sometimes, a fucking flower is real nice.

So nice you have to "rant" about it in "or kill me" ?  :?

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Or Kill Me / Re: Its all circling the drain.
« on: March 16, 2009, 08:08:29 am »
Humanity: The universe will be destroyed. One planet at a time  :lulz:

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Or Kill Me / Re: The flower
« on: March 15, 2009, 11:26:50 pm »
Jesus H Christ! I expect this kinda shit in my email box from people on facebook I hate, with a cutesy little "Forward this to 5 people you love and an angel will fart fairy magical dust on you" - message tagged on the end.
 :vom:

My advice - burn the fucking flower before it's too late :argh!:

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Or Kill Me / Re: Death for art is sick
« on: March 15, 2009, 12:26:51 am »
Can't relax, I'm drunk. Need to go outside and find someone to kick the shit out of.

BRB...

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Or Kill Me / Re: Death for art is sick
« on: March 14, 2009, 11:56:55 pm »
Beauty? Oh please, that is so last century.

Please to read again. Art is like beauty [in that] it's in the eye of the beholder.



Oh! Yes, yes, like beauty, (but not centered around it).


You are stretching my patience gland to shitting point!  :argh!:

my point:

beauty is in the eye of the beholder

art is in the eye of the beholder

therefore art is like beauty, in this sense. The sense of being in the eye of the beholder.

It was a fairly simple statement with a very limited scope - the tendency of beauty to be in the eye of the beholder is a tendency shared by art.

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Or Kill Me / Re: Plus, I Got Religion
« on: March 14, 2009, 11:49:54 pm »

It seems to me that, like many Westerners, your idea of "religion" is based on the Judeo-Christian model, and so your assumptions about religion revolve around it.


Can't be avoided really it's how I was programmed. That said I've never seen any mainstream religion that didn't seem to have devolved into the same "just drink the fucking koolaid and don't ask questions" mentality that I enjoy poking fun at.

I do have a personal vendetta against born-again flavoured christianity, resulting from the time some of the crazy fucks attempted to brainwash me when I was about 12 but for the rest of the religious establishment I simply deride them because I can and they're ridiculous. IMO cheap laughs aren't any less funny than expensive ones.

Sure, but your bias leads you to make statements like "even a tiny amount of religion is harmful", which may be true if your definition of religion requires it to be harmful, but you're still imposing your filters in areas where they may simply not apply. JUST NOW you added the qualifier "mainstream" to "religion", and that may make your filter fit better, but this isn't about "mainstream religion".

I'm just trying to clarify my position. The subject of "mainstream" religion came up and yeah, I'm against that. Adopting your own belief system on the basis that you are aware that that's all it is - that's what a smart person would do. Take a step back - I'm pretty sure me and you are in agreement on the religion issue.

I've heard actual, bona fide, dog-collared, pulpit owning clergy say they don't believe a single word of the bible is historical fact but as a personal code of behaviour they see it as being good enough to follow. If there were a few more like that my opinion would do a u-turn pretty fucking rapid.

But, when the fread led, as any with the word "religion" in the title is almost guaranteed to, to the more popular, abdication of thought, school, I chucked in my 2c. That's the problem with the word "religion" lot of negative connotations.

sue me  :wink:

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Or Kill Me / Re: Death for art is sick
« on: March 14, 2009, 10:03:01 pm »
Beauty? Oh please, that is so last century.

Please to read again. Art is like beauty [in that] it's in the eye of the beholder.


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Please tell me you guys aren't telling me they took out the bit about the dogs? :x

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Or Kill Me / Re: Death for art is sick
« on: March 14, 2009, 08:36:36 pm »
Art is a subjective reaction. The critics can piss around and try to make out it isn't but art is an effect which something has on you. It might have the same effect on someone else but it's just as likely to have the complete opposite on someone else or even no effect whatsoever.

Art is like beauty - in the eye of the beholder.


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Or Kill Me / Re: Plus, I Got Religion
« on: March 14, 2009, 08:33:16 pm »
validity (in the math/logic sense) and the real word have *nothing* to do with each other.

It's true.

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What on earth are you talking about? I'm saying if math doesn't apply to the real world than that statement wouldn't be valid.

Keep up with the conversation here.

Hm. Not what was implied, my good sir.

Your analogy calls for a real-world analysis of "two apples".
Two apples are REAL things. Not numbers.
TWO is a number. "TWO APPLES" is a thing.

.'. Different rules.

I already covered this by adding 2 white mice to 2 monitor lizards.

Just sayin

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Or Kill Me / Re: THE NEW BLACKLIST
« on: March 14, 2009, 07:49:16 pm »
I don't agree with her views.  I also don't agree with the level of harassment she was subjected to, which I thought was obvious since I've mentioned other people suffering for this sort of thing before.

However, I have to note, the Weekly Standard was one of the publications which went out of their way to castigate their political enemies and create the sort of intellectual and social climate where the Freikorps wouldn't feel out of place in.  To quote pre-insanity Hitchens again, they went out of their way to "create a hooligan atmosphere" where they could "bully and blackmail the opposition and accuse it of treachery and sympathy for the other side" and this filtered down into the wider political culture as playing dirty and winning no matter the cost - by direct harassment and threats against those they disagreed with (see the Adam Yoshida theory of righwing commentary for a fuller understanding of how this works).

So while it was wrong, I've also got to note its very much a case of reaping what has been sown.  Unfortunately, bad actions replicated by both sides in an argument don't tend to lead to realization of one's own hideous techniques, but only make one more trenchent in your own position and belief of personal righteousness.  And one side doing it does make the other think "well, two can play this game".  Its either lying down and letting them get away with it, or escalating in return.

I don't know what the solution is.

My solution is the same as it usually is -

 :popcorn::lulz:

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Or Kill Me / Re: Plus, I Got Religion
« on: March 14, 2009, 07:44:26 pm »

It seems to me that, like many Westerners, your idea of "religion" is based on the Judeo-Christian model, and so your assumptions about religion revolve around it.


Can't be avoided really it's how I was programmed. That said I've never seen any mainstream religion that didn't seem to have devolved into the same "just drink the fucking koolaid and don't ask questions" mentality that I enjoy poking fun at.

I do have a personal vendetta against born-again flavoured christianity, resulting from the time some of the crazy fucks attempted to brainwash me when I was about 12 but for the rest of the religious establishment I simply deride them because I can and they're ridiculous. IMO cheap laughs aren't any less funny than expensive ones.

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Or Kill Me / Re: A dedicated follower of strife
« on: March 14, 2009, 07:34:45 pm »
Sounds like you would be all shits and giggles then if someone came and strifed you out of a job, a place to live, then strifed all over your face.

It's happened before and theres every chance it'll happen again. Shit fills me with the fear. Then it happens and I come alive or die trying. Losing all the bullshit you've convinced yourself you need is sometimes the only way to wake the fuck up.

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Been meaning to ask - how does the cat look in the movie?

it's the one character I don't think I've seen any pics of

There is only a brief appearance, near the end, but it looked alright, from what I remembered. 

A brief appearance near the end, WTF??

Next you'll be telling me Rorschach doesn't get any dialogue  :argh!:

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