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Apple Talk / people still post on forums, technically
« on: September 11, 2017, 10:45:26 pm »


P.S. your father killed a bunch of children with it, have fun

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Bring and Brag / Deliver Me From Cool
« on: September 05, 2017, 04:26:00 pm »
Eris,

Deliver me from Cool, from Cred, from Consensus

Deliver me from Slang, from Trends, from Hipness

Deliver me from the app everybody is using

Deliver me from the transcendental festival experience

Deliver me from New York--that shining city on the hill where dreams come true in movies

Deliver me from that thing on netflix thatís SO GOOD, you HAVE to watch it, itís AMAZING

Deliver me from Brooklyn, the beating heart of young and hot

Delver me from whatís going on this weekend, the primal chase of fox and hound

Deliver me from the dash, the feed, the stream

Deliver me from The Scene, from speaking in tongues, from stigmata

Deliver me from alchemical youth

Deliver me from the eroding fertile mud of the ravenous riverbank, that Jordan where we dredge up and baptize

Deliver me from grave robbing sepia-junkies and the Frankenstein monsters they build from childhood like block busting golems

From the magnetic congregation and the holy grail which connects cool and earth, please liberate me

From the tyrants and priests of power, please liberate me

For my profane alien heart, please liberate me

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PD.COM: We're a self service death cult. Spike your own f'kin Koolaid.

Fuck it. I'm starting a death cult

If anybody wants in, let me know. We're gonna off ourselves at the same time on a Monday. Why Monday? So we can get in a good weekend before the finale. 

The only rule is that you have to kill yourself in a way that nobody's ever heard of. When people find our bodies, it'll really make their day.


So here's how I'm gonna go ---

I'm gonna glue living field mice all over my naked body, and then lay down in a room full of hungry eagles.

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Biblical Series with Jordan B Peterson
« on: August 15, 2017, 07:55:19 pm »
Biblical Series I: Introduction to the Idea of God

This a lecture series we've been batting around in #discord over the last day or two. It's not a straight info-dump so much as Peterson trying to work through some of his ideas in a public forum. So it rambles and digresses and circles around what he's aiming to say.

I'm not familiar with J. Peterson at all - I understand that he's a controversial figure in some circles, and there are a couple of places in this lecture where I want to throw fruit at him. But for the most part, I really enjoyed this lecture. Anybody who can quote the bible and homer simpson and give both some weight is a good orator.

Here are a few of the topics from this lecture:
  • Why Nietzsche was right about Christianity destroying itself
  • The unconscious (in the Freudian sense - the stuff we carry inside of us which has a big impact on our behavior despite us not being aware of it) and how it's the space where myths take place
  • the origin of philosophical or moral ideals and how they move from concrete behaviors to symbolic abstractions
  • The underlying psychological forces which inform biblical mythology, law, and concepts like sovereignty..
  • and how those forces may also be what the ancient Greeks and Israelites meant by "God"


I thought you cats might dig some of this stuff - at the very least, it's thought provoking

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Apple Talk / Fucking Photobucket
« on: July 14, 2017, 06:22:11 pm »
Look at my goddamn signature, what the fuck


this means ALL the wompcabal images in the PD archive are now broken.

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Literate Chaotic / Our Discordia
« on: April 19, 2017, 04:08:37 pm »
In many ways, Religion is kinda stupid, right?

but instead of leaning away from it

letís dive in

head first

Letís exercise our right to be wrong

Letís juice the religious experience for everything itís got.


Because IF beliefs are sacred, even the stupid ones,

BOOM, a bunch of really stupid shit is now sacred.



A lot of atheists come into Discordianism because itís this great joke on religion.

And then

when you feel where this headspace is,

you can see thereís something else


beyond



and you donít need to go to church for it,

you donít even need to really believe in a god to tap into it,

 itís this chaos inside

which can become anything



and listenĖif there are things in this universe

that are irrational

then our rational minds deceive us

into thinking that whole Enlightenment routine

can bust down any wall

but hey, you try reasoning with the clouds

Iím sure theyíll come around.



listen,

some stuff in this world is sacred

and I donít know what sacred means except

    a connection between

     heaven and earth,

       the conceptual and the material,

          the body and the spirit

and some stupid shit is sacred now

finally



finally the bibles are molding on the shelves

finally the traditions have worn out

finally the parade is over

finally god is off the pedestal

finally we are in the driverís seat

finally a roach will save me

finally, flying baby shit


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Aneristic Illusions / The #AltWoke Manifesto
« on: April 13, 2017, 06:30:09 pm »
Chewing on this today. This was introduced to me as:

"#altwoke is to eris as redpill is to kek."

http://tripleampersand.org/alt-woke-manifesto/

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Reality Safari: Gurdjieff
« on: April 11, 2017, 02:25:05 pm »
Introduction


As some of you know, I've been on an academic binge through 1900-1920s esotericism. There were a lot of these weird guru figures that emerged during this period. Crowley, Gardner, Meher Baba, Mme Blavatski, G.I.Gurdjieff, many others. Most of them attracted - let's face it - wealthy socialites from London, Paris, and New York. Their students would come study in some remote location (Russia, India, etc), then return home to show off these weird oriental ideas to their wealthy socialite friends.

If there are two scales, "wiseman" and "charlatan", most of these gurus registered somewhere on both scales. Crowley, for example, was high on both. Meher Baba, in contrast - probably not a charlatan. Blavatsky? 100% charlatan. (and by the time people discovered that her 'letters from the other side' were a hoax, she had already collected a bunch of "true believers" -- so, inexplicably, there are still theosophists today.)

This "spiritual awakening" from 1900-1920 planted the seeds that would later become the new age movement. So maybe what I'm doing is just the turbo-hipster version of alt-spirituality.

I'll state my goal in sincere terms: I have an aesthetic attraction to 1920s esotericism. I am also interested in exploring this stuff from the inside. I don't just want to read about it, I want to read the texts, discover the secrets, test things for myself. And I don't want to get into occult stuff, let's see what else is out there.

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Last Podcast on the Left is a show where a bunch of comedy peoples explores weird topics like serial killers, cults, and the occult. After doing an episode on the left hand path, and the right hand path, they wanted to do an episode on chaos magic. So they did like a year of research on it and its associated ideas. This is the first of two podcasts they did on it.

I enjoyed this one, haven't listened to the second one yet. They are usually pretty removed from the weird shit they are discussing, but here they clearly got into it a bit. In another podcasts, a few of them mention how most of the other NYC stand up comics they know are into some kind of occult practice. Is that weird or what? It's amazing, anyway

About 11 minutes into this podcast, they talk about Discordians. It lasts about 3 minutes, and it's funny - you guys should check it out


https://soundcloud.com/lastpodcastontheleft/episode-230-chaos-magic-part-one-the-basics


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Apple Talk / Medieval Americans at War
« on: March 22, 2017, 02:27:29 pm »
If there was an American army during the middle ages, how would they be equipped?



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Literate Chaotic / A Koan about Primal Chaos
« on: March 22, 2017, 12:48:14 pm »
Golden Rod approached the monk Nopants.


ďMaster Nopants, what can I learn by observing Primal Chaos?Ē


The master held up a pen. ďDo you know what this is?Ē

ďYes, itís a pen.Ē




The master said, ďI use it to scratch my balls.Ē

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Literate Chaotic / The Monkey Experiment
« on: March 22, 2017, 12:45:16 pm »
(originally posted on this forum here, but it's buried on page 4)



The Monkey Experiment
   Thereís a famous experiment where they keep a bunch of monkeys in a room for an indefinite amount of time. Thereís a big white staircase leading up out of the room. Every time a monkey climbs to the top of the staircase, he gets blasted back down the stairs with a hose. When this happens, every monkey in the room also gets blasted with water. This makes them very angry.

    Soon, the monkeys have figured it out: beat the shit out of any monkey that starts to climb the stairs. Thatís the new rule.

    At some point, they remove a monkey and send in a new one. He learns the rule quickly: donít climb the stairs. And if weíre beating somebody up, join in. One by one, they replace each monkey with a new one who has to learn the rule.

    At some point they can turn off the hose. The monkeys will reliably prevent escape. Policing the stairs has become a cultural norm. Eventually, they have this population of monkeys who are trained to beat up any monkey that tries to escape, but donít even understand why.

    The experiment is run by interns who are paid in course credit. Occasionally, an intern finishes the semester and leaves. New interns join the team and everybody explains how to feed the monkeys and how to record the data. But at this point, none of the interns are from the original group, none of them have met the scientists leading this project. Most of the interns donít fully understand the point of the experiment.

    The scientist who began the experiment left long ago. Other researchers were assigned to the project by an administrator in order to keep this valuable experiment running. None of the remaining scientists are actually authors of the paper, or even understand what itís about. 

    The administrator supervising the project isnít terribly involved with it. He just prolongs the experiment because itís his departmentís main source of funding. But he didnít begin this project, he just inherited it from his predecessor, who is on a leave of absence and hasnít been seen in some time.

    The company funding the experiment has a sum of money they spend annually on scientific research, mainly for tax reasons. But the person who reads and approves grants left last year. The last time anybody saw the man, he handed a huge folder to some new kid and said ďmake sure these stay funded.Ē Then he disappeared up a long staircase leading into the sky.

_________________________________________

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Or Kill Me / You're not conscious
« on: March 17, 2017, 06:13:37 pm »
I hate to break it to you, but you're not conscious. You're just running a program. Your habitual mind is driving your meat machine. Your reactions are mechanical. You are running on autopilot. You are a script in human form.

There's a part of your mind which can become conscious, but it's too much work for you. It might open an eye for a moment, learn something, make a decision, but then it goes back to sleep. The autopilot is in charge.

Your mind is a mansion. But you? You spend 95% of your life jerking off in the basement. You didn't even know there was an attic. Can you even find the way there?

Your mind is a crowd. The party is buzzing and everybody's doing their own thing. But you? You're in the corner on your phone.

Your mind is a like a menu with 300 possible things to order, but you? You order the same meal every night.

Your mind is an anarchist commune. It has no leader. It resists leadership and coordination. But you? You couldn't lead them if you tried. If you were a real self, you could coordinate the collective and accomplish something. But you can't do it, so you let them lay around and talk shit all day.

And every time you start to wake up, when you begin to move from that comfortable spot you've been resting in for so long, you get distracted. Something else pops up, and you forget. Your habitual mind is overbearing, every moment of the day it's bullying the lazy conscious mind into the background. Your habitual mind doesn't want to be examined. It doesn't want to be resisted. And it's stronger than your conscious mind, so it wins every time.

And even now, as you read these words, your habitual mind is revving the robot's engine. Don't you have an update to check? Isn't there something else you're supposed to be doing? These words are boring, and there are too many of them. And it doesn't even apply to you, because you're conscious. Other people walk around on autopilot, but not you. Right?

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RPG Ghetto / HONEY HEIST: a free 1-page RPG
« on: March 15, 2017, 12:58:52 pm »
In HONEY HEIST, you play a CRIMINAL BEAR. You have two stats: CRIMINAL and BEAR




Link to full size image


the guy's website

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Post-Irony (& The New Sincerity)
« on: March 08, 2017, 03:44:29 pm »


I really enjoyed this youtube vid discussing "The Problem with Irony"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2doZROwdte4

The video follows a train of thought from David Foster Wallace. It is critical of how irony has infused itself so deeply into pop culture and everyday human relations. The video talks about how "Irony has no redemptive qualities in and of itself. It can point out problems and deconstruct things, but it has no solution." We've begun to treat irony as a statement in of itself.

This resonates with me through my experience spending years and years trolling the Internets with you cats. I found that there long-term consequences of wearing an ironic mask for so long, playing a character until it blends into your real personality. It made me argumentative and contentious in my day to day life. People told me that when they were talking, they felt like I was just searching for a weak point to pounce on it.  I was full of criticisms, and I defended myself against criticisms by not believing anything, by not presenting a solid base that could be attacked. Sometimes it felt like all I had was a critical posture... I had built walls and a moat ... with no castle to defend.

David Foster Wallace didn't like how irony (which, like Satire, is often employed to intensify the The Thing you're criticizing) had become The Thing itself. It has no values, no statement, no castle to defend.

Wallace's counter-movement is called the New Sincerity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Sincerity



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