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Lets get a little metaphysical and overextend our metaphors, shall we?

I was reading Foucault again (a bad habit), this time on the subject of prisons and power relations, and it got me thinking.  For Foucault, a power relation only exists where there is intentionality, therefore in a social sphere.  Prison therefore, is an example of power at work, because the presence of guards, a "reform" system (that doesn't work), a criminal lawyer profession, a prison reform political lobby, a tough on crime lobby, a whole host of politicians, "scare" crime TV etc form a vast chain of interlinking strategies which form a social arrangement we call a prison, where the influence and domination of one group of people is forced upon another.

By contrast, consider a dungeon. A man chained up and left in a cell, forgotten by the world, unwatched, physically constricted and forgotten, but otherwise unmolested, is not caught up in a social power arrangement.  He is physically constricted, to be sure, but otherwise left alone.

Would it not be sensible to consider the Black Iron Dungeon a metaphor for our own physical limitations, our inability to hear beyond certain ranges, our cognitive defects, our lack of strength or whatever as this dungeon?  They are (as of now, at least) conditions we cannot help, they are built-in defects that we cannot overcome.

On the other hand, the Black Iron Prison, like its real life namesake, is that of a social arrangement.  There are factors at work, levels of power, of control, strategies that form the particulars of this prison. 

You see what I mean?  There is an element of power and social relations in the latter not present in the former, which call for different methods of analysis and consideration, concerning their effects and means to change this.  To change the dungeon may involve the utilization of technology, of genetic engineering or smart drugs or whatever, whereas to change the prison, it would involve strategy, social hacks, the utilization of emergence and application of control of options to affect outcomes.

I would just like to say that this OP is a pretty damn good version of what I've been trying to explain for a while, and far more elaborate and specific.

Discordian Recipes / Re: I JUST BOUGHT 10 LBS OF BEEF
« on: February 10, 2009, 12:54:46 am »
I'm one of those freaks who doesn't care for cheese steaks.


Discordian Recipes / Re: Mechanically Recovered Meat Hole
« on: February 09, 2009, 08:46:44 pm »
Woah, what just happened? :lulz:


An anti-Pinealist n00b! Why can't we have more of these?

Bring and Brag / Re: ATTN: Nigel, HOLY SHIT!!!
« on: February 09, 2009, 07:33:48 pm »
I got my Nigel Beads today!
Pix as soon as I find something to put them on...

Techmology and Scientism / Re: World's Foremost HIV Denier dies of...
« on: February 08, 2009, 04:28:57 pm »
Now I've got The Hate. I swear this stuff is contagious.

Bring and Brag / Re: Seamstress Speak
« on: February 07, 2009, 04:20:19 pm »'s older than some posters on this board, I think.  *blush*  But it's because it obscures the stitches. OR maybe I'm switching it to the wrong side.  It can go both ways, the way the feet switch out.

I dunno.  Been a while.  But I know I struggle to keep the zipper WITHIN the damned seam because of the fucking foot.

18 and 1/2 makes it almost exactly as old as me.

Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Intermittens #6
« on: February 07, 2009, 05:32:01 am »
Oh yes, now I definitely get it. :lulz:

Some source material -->

Now you can master the art and science of commanding omnipotent supernatural beings, including: fallen-angles, demons, the rulers of unearthly mystic dimensions, and even the embodiments of the elements (sylphs, salamanders, gnomes, and so on.)

You'll discover how normal people have learned to enlist the service of spirits -- entities -- and elementals to get what they want out of life.  Whether it be the destruction of a terrible menace, the whereabouts of a powerful occult artifact or perhaps an increase of money and popularity.

Yes, this is the REAL stuff they don't want you to know about.  Banned from bookstores, prohibited by churches -- it's all here!

But before you get excited and wonder about all the possibilities magic powers will grant you let me be first to remind you: REAL Magic & Sorcery isn't for just any average Joe surfing the web...  in fact it many not even be for you...

From: Abraxas
Academy Founder

Techmology and Scientism / Re: CRAZY PREPARED
« on: February 07, 2009, 05:28:18 am »
ProTip: Don't have Raynaud's Syndrome.

If civilization degrades to the point where getting hot water and just plain ol' warmth become a serious problem, people like me are gonna lose our fingers come winter.

Apple Talk / Re: Official February Shit List Thread
« on: February 06, 2009, 03:42:42 pm »
Everyone writing for Intermittens - time wasted with spurious legal threats

was issue #4 really that bad?

Like... you don't even know man... it was like...

dude, you don't even know...

But wait... the punchline is that WE ARE COMPRISED OF A BUNCH OF STUPID CHEMICALS. Ergo, love is as significant as any other event, emotion, or thought in our completely pointless existence.

:mittens: Welcome to nihilism. Enjoy it while it lasts (before the emos and goths completely suck the giggles out of it)

Moar :mittens: I really dislike the attitude that if something can be expressed in scientific or technical words, it's somehow less important than of it's expressed in religious or poetic language. It's very akin to the "Apes? In MY ancestry? FUCK YUO!" anti-evolution argument.

Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Intermittens #6
« on: February 06, 2009, 03:33:46 pm »
Okay, so we're talking about content that describe what we would consider basic Discordian "theory and practice," but with a special emphasis on making up bullshit claims about how IT WILL CHANGE YUOR LIFE, a la McOccultism?

Propaganda Depository / Re: TGRR Podcasts
« on: February 06, 2009, 05:28:13 am »
geahwd.. so it is possible to ruin after bar lows. :x

Also, I think I just figured out how to parse this.

Translated: "God... so it is possible to ruin after-bar lows [sic]"

It still doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Or Kill Me / Re: You are all Equal
« on: February 06, 2009, 05:14:00 am »

Propaganda Depository / Re: TGRR Podcasts
« on: February 06, 2009, 05:12:55 am »
I figured it had to be a drunk post.

Also, I like the video. I agree with Hoopla's suggestions, and if you choose to add a little more explanation, don't make it too much more. It's pretty effective as a short, slap-inna-face sort of thing.

jesus christ

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