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Messages - Mesozoic Mister Nigel

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I learned that there is a secret airline that flies to deserts in Arizona and Nevada, such as Black Rock.

Tower Airlines?

Janet airlines.

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I learned that, if you are allergic to onions, ask for no onions, and get onions in your dish, aqnd you don't say anything, IT'S THE RESTAURANTS FAULT FOR YOU EATING THE DAMN MEAL!

What if you don't notice that there are onions until you start to have a reaction?

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Anyone who has seen HRC and Sanders fans argue will tell you this isn't necessarily a conservative thing.

I haven't had any run-ins with HRC fans yet, but Sanders fans... <shudder>.

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I think I'm gonna hand the expertise on the subject of race over to the people with the most day-to-day experience with it.

Would you prefer to have a high rise building's tabs (the metal hangers that are used to hold the concrete slabs in place) inspected by a welder with 20 years experience, or an engineering professor with zero time in the field?

And this would also be the perfect time for questions -- specifically, the white professor asking questions of the black teens.

I would hope that a white professor of Black studies would have the depth of knowledge to understand when he is not an appropriate leader. The white expert on black culture might have some valuable contributions to a black civil rights movement, but he couldn't lead it effectively. He could make suggestions, but no matter how much he had studied, it would be terribly paternalistic for him to try to lead. "Hey black people, just do what I say and I will lead you out of white oppression".

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well, also does one make allowances for expertise? Like, how much would say a white professor of African Studies with a history of social activism get to say on the topic of black civil rights, compared to say a black teenager who has much day to day experience with racism but has no idea how to lead a social movement? There seems to be an assumption that based on ones race or gender that the people in the group already know what the speaker is going to contribute to the group and have already decided that it is inherently of less value than something another person might say.

Everything is context dependent. It sounds like it might just be a shitty group full of immature people.

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Get a Surface? Not particularly a cheap option but they (should) run Windows 10 now which is the same OS whether it's on tablet or proper computer.

Really? Because it was my understanding that with the Windows 8 Surface tablets this was actually a lie and they actually ran something called "Windows RT"

What I am hearing, here, is "I want a tablet that is also fully-functional computer but I only want to spend $150".

I don't expect that; I expect to end up with a tablet that is a very low-end computer only*

*(ie. with all feasibly removable tablet-specific things completely deleted and preferably formatted over)

So you want a tablet that has all tablet functionality deleted?

Have you considered getting one of these? https://jet.com/product/9c7fc841ce764c9ca3458c73a04fad4a?

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THat's brilliant!

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This thread caused me to return to the arguments against human uniqueness outlined by the illustrious Professor Trol Bearington.

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=32883.msg1192322#msg1192322

I forgot all about that thread.  :lulz: It was hilarious.

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Techmology and Scientism / Re: Advances in artificially made organisms
« on: August 18, 2015, 07:15:26 pm »
The first several pages of this thread are priceless.

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So nothing scientific makes us different, that's fair enough. Something I can get behind. But there's an implication in there that we're not different which is patently not the case.

The properties that emerged from the tiny tweak our particular strand of ribonucleic ticker tape received made us very different. According to biology we are 97(ish) percent identical to mice. So why didn't mice develop the atom bomb?

You're a snowflake. Get over it  :lulz:

Actually, the implication is that we're no more different from all the other animals than any given species is different from all the other animals.

There is no big defining difference that sets us apart and makes us special. Our difference is the sum total of many traits that, in combination, characterize our species. The fact that we are the only highly technological species at this time sets us apart from the animals as much as the bat being the only flying mammal at this time sets bats apart from the animals. My point is that the man/animal dichotomy is false, and it's an unproductive way of thinking about our species and its relationship with all the other animals, and our shared environment.

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So, for those of you who wanted to read my Dylann Roof article, I only have one word for you:



YUSSSS.

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If the discussion is on a subject where the less privileged has more direct experience, I agree whole-heartedly, because there's more direct knowledge there.  Much in the same way that I would allow a professor of particle physics to lead a conversation about quarks, but I would let a neurobiologist lead a conversation about dendrites.  Let the people who know, talk.


However,
I was also told that I shouldn't ask people any questions, and that instead I should show up to discussions having read the correct blogs ahead of time and decided on an opinion someone else had arrived on. This too is no exaggeration.

That's not a discussion.  That's social signaling, and fart-huffing.

Yeah, and I agree with your position there. But I wasn't paraphrasing when I said I was told I didn't have the right to think critically. When you talk to said professor, you're allowed to make guesses and cobble together clumsy analogies, and the professor will tell you which things you're right about and which you're wrong about, and in which sense, rather than telling you it was forbidden to do so in the first place. A professor of particle physics will try to stimulate your thought process. This particular individual(though not necessarily representative of anyone else) openly stated her intention to stifle it. It's depressing as hell.

The answer is that she is a control-freaky jerk. The world is full of them.

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But then i remember that humans are basically chimps, and so I see this resulting in hierarchy and a game of oneupsmanship and social status seeking within the group which leads to resentment and table-flipping as people get frustrated with the rules of who can speak about what and when. What do you guys think? Am i missing something here?

That's my take. Whilst the reason may seem logical on the surface, it's actually bullshit masquerading as an excuse to crowbar in some monkey status.

Or it's both logical and necessary and inevitably leads to idiot monkey status things.

Eliminating a mind from a discussion is neither logical or necessary. It's retarded primate posturing all the way down.

This is a prime example of what I mean.

You fail to see the reason those who are most affected by a situation should be given the space to lead the discussion about it, so you dismiss it as "retarded primate posturing".

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But then i remember that humans are basically chimps, and so I see this resulting in hierarchy and a game of oneupsmanship and social status seeking within the group which leads to resentment and table-flipping as people get frustrated with the rules of who can speak about what and when. What do you guys think? Am i missing something here?

That's my take. Whilst the reason may seem logical on the surface, it's actually bullshit masquerading as an excuse to crowbar in some monkey status.

Or it's both logical and necessary and inevitably leads to idiot monkey status things.

Bingo.

The whole reason that approach has come about is because the most privileged have a tendency to dominate the conversation with their opinions.

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I was kind of, albeit apparently futilely, hoping that people here would get the point and not run off with "things that make humans super special".

Cainad got it, at least. Cainad, let's you and me go start our own species.






Oh, shit. I'm sterile. Never mind. We're all going to die.

Well, I'm sure if I try REALLY hard...

 :lulz:

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