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Messages - The Right Reverend Nigel

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Mamma needs to grow a set of ovaries and kick that brat out.

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From what I've seen, voices depend upon biographical experience. But what is biographical experience after all? Family interactions, the oh-so-broad term "experiences", and yes, of course, local culture.

So, i dont know, its nice validation that the schizophrenic experience is something more than "bad biological/physiological functioning" dictating everything, other than that i dont see the value or use of this finding.

It's not exactly news, but it is confirmation that cultural attitudes shape the experience of the mentally ill, and that in the US we have a particularly harsh/negative (I might even say punitive) attitude toward mental illness. We are, after all, only about a generation away from an era when we simply locked them up in warehouse-like sanitariums where they were drugged, experimented on, and if difficult to control, chained to the wall and hosed down.

In this case, who knows, anthropological confirmation of what psychologists already know may help build that body of knowledge up to the point where it has enough weight to effect a cultural shift in how we perceive mental illness.

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It's interesting stuff.

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That was fucking hilarious. I love her.

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Still not sure I'm convinced.

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Obviously there is the objective definition that none of us have access to, and then there is the subjective definition(s) that are interpreted and reinterpreted and reinterpreted and reinterpreted and reinterpreted ad infinitum until one of them got to your wonderful little sensing organ (not that one, the OTHER sensing organ. No, I didn't mean it was small; stop being so insecure.).

I'm asking for lots of reasons, but I will boil it down to five:
1. Seemed like a good first thread
2. I just read the book last night (yea, all by myself)
3. I HAD to know.
4. Another awesome reason
5. My mommy made me do it

I'm also curious how all of you stumbled upon it. I'll need specific times, dates and places unless you were stoned or drunk. In that case, I'll just settle for whatever days, times and places you feel like saying. Circumstances would be nice too, though not too much detail because no one wants to hear your life story unless you say they do.

1994, Oakland, California. I met and made friends with Arkuat of the Pigdog Cabal via a dialup BBS, probably The Cheese Vault. He told me I was a Discordian, but didn't know it yet.

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You know who has surprised me with the border children issue?  Glenn Beck.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ej-dionne-republicans-are-bordering-on-heartless/2014/07/13/cc152306-092e-11e4-8a6a-19355c7e870a_story.html

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Glenn Beck says he has come under fierce attack from some of his fellow conservatives for a grave transgression.

His crime? He announced plans to bring food, water, teddy bears and soccer balls to at least some of the tens of thousands of Central American children who have crossed the border into the United States.

“Through no fault of their own, they are caught in political crossfire,” Beck said. “Anyone, left or right, seeking political gain at the expense of these desperate, vulnerable, poor and suffering people are reprehensible.”

Beck, not averse to a certain grandiosity, let us know that “I’ve never taken a position more deadly to my career than this.” But assume he’s right — and he may well be. It’s one more sign of how the crisis at our border has brought out the very worst in our political system and a degree of plain nastiness that we should not be proud of as a nation.

When Republican talking points are to the right of Glenn Beck, you know something has gotten fucked up.

Wut

Wait

I'm so confused... I think reality might have sprung a leak.

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This thread is now making me wonder what lung tissue's texture is like. I picturing something like a cross between clams and mushrooms.
I wonder how lung would go as a replacement for pork in gyoza? Hmmm....

It's kind of tender and crumbly, when done well. Pretty tasty.

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Fresh haggis is fantastic.  Any other kind of haggis is an abomination.

Twid seems to be the only one ITT who has actually had haggis, and not some kind of offal abomination, because he knows it tastes spicy.  And that's because there is a ton of seasoning and spices already present in haggis.  Oatmeal, onions, nutmeg, sea salt, black pepper, parsley, thyme, sage and mace at minimum.

I've had haggis. I've had good haggis and bad haggis. Good haggis is delicious, but again, I like organ meats.

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Love that you're using your wife and child to shame me, that's super classy.

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The irony here is that one way or another, it's my lack of engagement that's creating a problem. If I only had more to give, none of this would have happened.

Seriously, I am walking away. I have enough reference points in my life to be pretty certain this is not a drama I'm generating.

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I mean, if I'm not revolving my life around your writing, and actually like you as a person and not as a producer of entertainment, then that's you setting yourself up for a chump. Makes perfect fucking sense. Just like I only make art so my friends can ooh and ahhh over it, and not out of any inner drive or innate sense of satisfaction over it. If they fail to fully appreciate the gift I'm giving them by allowing them to be an audience for my beads and don't show me proper appreciation, they're basically backstabbing betrayers who are setting me up as a fool and I know better than to continue treating them like human beings.

Who needs friends? It's all about ADMIRERS and an AUDIENCE.

Naw, that's not entirely accurate. 

I walked into the house last week talking to you on the phone, pretty damn happy because I had a chance to talk to my friend.  When I hung up the phone, Jenn asked me who I was talking to.  I said I had been talking to you.  Keelin says "Well, get ready for a kick, then."  Jenn just shook her head. 

"What?"

"Every time you and Nigel get along, you get bitch-slapped, Dad.  For a smart guy, you're pretty dumb.  Hell, last month you were all bent out of shape because she took the time to laugh at you in public".

(bear in mind, I'm paraphrasing from memory, here.)

The very next thing you say to me?  Page 66-67.  I was a little out of sorts because Paes and a few others were into the story, so *I* was into the story, then everyone got busy. 

You were still right, of course, and you were in the post I'm responding to.  It's a character flaw that I'm going to have to deal with.  But in the meantime, I look dumb as fuck to my wife and my daughter.  The part that stings is that THEY are right, too.

I respect the hell out of you.  You're smart and you have integrity and you have drive.

But I as I was trying to get across to you last time around, you also have an almost preternatural ability to find fracture points and a compulsion to whack 'em.  And since we're being candid, I haven't really ever gotten over that laughter.  I can deal with being hollered at, I don't deal with contempt too well.  Or at all.

So you do what you gotta do.  I'm gonna spend the next few weeks convincing my daughter that I'm not entirely a fool.

Wow, seriously? I don't like getting guilt-tripped about not having time to play on the forum, so I say so, and that makes you look the fool? So, clearly it's ME doing the guilt-tripping and setting you up. Clearly, the common denominator isn't you saying shitty guilt-trippy things on the forum, it's that I respond to them.

OK then. Have a nice life.

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I mean, if I'm not revolving my life around your writing, and actually like you as a person and not as a producer of entertainment, then that's you setting yourself up for a chump. Makes perfect fucking sense. Just like I only make art so my friends can ooh and ahhh over it, and not out of any inner drive or innate sense of satisfaction over it. If they fail to fully appreciate the gift I'm giving them by allowing them to be an audience for my beads and don't show me proper appreciation, they're basically backstabbing betrayers who are setting me up as a fool and I know better than to continue treating them like human beings.

Who needs friends? It's all about ADMIRERS and an AUDIENCE.

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It's coming from our brief conversation on I think pages 66-67 of this thread, in which it seemed to me as if you were leaving because of something I said. If you don't want to talk about it, that's fine too.

No, you were right about what you were saying. The fact that I am a chump seemingly bent on setting myself up for a periodic happy-slapping is hardly your fault.  It's my fault for being dense, for having extremely poor pattern recognition skills.

It had nothing to do with that.  It had to do with the events in the admin thread, and an assortment of PMs in which you did not participate.  Just to be clear.

Wow, what the fuck. Never fucking mind, I won't bother speaking to you again if this passive-aggressive disingenuous bullshit is going to be my reward.

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It's coming from our brief conversation on I think pages 66-67 of this thread, in which it seemed to me as if you were leaving because of something I said. If you don't want to talk about it, that's fine too.

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