I'm bringing this thread back from the dead for this take down by Mr. Destructo. After reading it, I'm disturbed a bit by scientists who looked upon him so favorably.
Was I supposed to take that seriously? It was funny as an example of over-the-top ad-hominem in the spirit of TGRR, but I would actually rather read a serious critical analysis.
I sincerely hate that this board will step up and come to consensus that it's just as gross and inhuman as the actions of the people we despise to celebrate the deaths of, say, Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden, and Muommar Khaddafi, but perfectly acceptable/admirable to celebrate the death from cancer of a political commentator we don't like.
I'm sorry, but you people disgust me.
Way to totally ignore the central point, alleged PD intelligentsia.
Oh, but it's different when someone we hate dies. Ook, ook.
I think you are ignoring what I said three pages back, where I stated:
I heard about this first from ND Tyson on Twitter. And I sort of have a mix of feelings between "sad" and "indifferent". I'm not interested in gloating over the deceased, no matter who they are, and I do feel sad for family and close friends who feel that loss. But I really didn't know him at all, and I certainly didn't know him in person. I read one of his books, God is Not Great, in summer of 2007, and I mostly agreed with it. Most of the rest of what I "know" of him is hearsay or propaganda of some sort. I read in I Don't Believe in Atheists by Chris Hedges that Hitchens advocated bombing the middle east out of existence, but I don't know if this is true or not.
In short, I don't care enough to feel strongly about it, but I do feel something. That Tyson would mention his death makes me think that I should investigate further before passing judgment.
Thus I investigated. This is the first thing I've come across that was neither heavy handed praise of his character nor a complete religious screed. And no, I'm not celebrating his death. I'm investigating his life, because as I stated before, some of the high profile scientists that I follow (and I daresay look up to) have been lauding him, while people here are talking about his racism. This may indicate that these scientists did not notice (which I highly doubt) or intentionally overlooked these racist agendas in favor of an atheist voice with charisma. These are things I want to know.
Now, perhaps it would have been more tasteful to put this in another thread, but seeing how it was likely to blow up in my face regardless, perhaps it was best it stayed in this one. "Perfectly acceptable/admirable to celebrate the death from cancer of a political commentator we don't like" does not apply to my reasons since I neither had an opinion of him nor did I celebrate. And I will not involve myself in this endless festival of finger pointing and drama flinging.
If you're not doing it, then my objections to it don't apply to you.
Who was "way to totally ignore the central point, alleged PD intelligentsia." addressing?
Obviously, because I am terrified of calling out any one poster in particular, it was a sideways means of addressing you.
No, just kidding. It was a collective "you", meant to indicate that although I didn't remember the names of any specific individuals who had responded yet failed to address the central point of my objection, I was nonetheless aware that the objection had not actually been addressed in any of the rebuttals.
Since I'm not addressing a specific person and am objecting to a behavior rather than a personality, in a thread with multiple posters, it gets hard to be specific, so I am trying to clarify (with Kai) that if you feel that my criticism doesn't apply to you, then it probably doesn't, as it is only meant to apply to people who are actually performing the behavior that is being criticized. If that makes sense.