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Or Kill Me / Re: Burgers?
« on: April 22, 2014, 09:58:47 pm »
Asshole or not, he was right. Credit where it's due. I'd rather get the right answer from an asshole than bullshit from a smiling group.

If you reread that, he was unable to provide proofs to support his hypotheses because he pissed off his COLLEAGUES IN SCIENCE. So, are you going to point the finger at scientists for being anti-science? That's like calling Nature (the esteemed journal) "anti-science" for refusing to publish a paper because it offers no evidence in support of the conclusion.

The right answer is no answer at all without supporting evidence.

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Or Kill Me / Re: Burgers?
« on: April 22, 2014, 09:54:35 pm »
I'm not saying that the Catholic Church hasn't historically been a cabal of greedy, power-hungry control freaks. I'm just saying that they have historically been very pro-science, along with most Protestant churches, as well as most of Islam and Judaica. The idea that they are all anti-science is relatively new, and seems largely to be fueled by the vehement extremist screechings of fundamentalist neophobes.

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There is research on this, and this is not correct.

That's about par for the course.   :lulz:

I am constantly amazed at the sheer quantity of incorrect information I have stored.

Incorrect information abounds. I'm constantly finding things I have always thought were true that aren't, too. For that matter, as research progresses it's constantly disproving earlier ideas that were once thought to be true; for example, the idea that new neurons are never made after birth.

WAT

OKAY, EVERYONE STOP UNTIL I FUCKING CATCH UP.

 :lulz:

The only possible way to catch up is to pick just ONE THING.

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There is research on this, and this is not correct.

That's about par for the course.   :lulz:

I am constantly amazed at the sheer quantity of incorrect information I have stored.

Incorrect information abounds. I'm constantly finding things I have always thought were true that aren't, too. For that matter, as research progresses it's constantly disproving earlier ideas that were once thought to be true; for example, the idea that new neurons are never made after birth.

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I'd really like to add "don't be poor" but really it's more like "society, don't let people be poor, it's bad for kids".

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 :eek: .....  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
This is exactly why I never joined any mommy groups, or really have friends with kids.
I fucking hate other parents and the way they act.

"What did you do when your son acted like this?"
"I spanked him"
"Oh I can't do that to little Katie, I just think it would have too many long term psychological effects"
"My kid turned out fine. I turned out fine. You got spanked, remember?"
"Yes but my little Brycer is different"
"FUCK YOU IN YOUR DUMB FUCKING FACE YOU STUPID CUNT"

I don't have friends with kids.

This is exactly why I hate the other mommies. Extremists and assholes who all think they've found the one magical formula for raising perfect children, and as long as they adhere perfectly to their superstitious little rituals nothing  bad will befall their little snowflakes, and they won't turn out to be failures or assholes.

The fanatical extremism drives me insane. There are some pretty basic things that parents should and shouldn't do with their kids, and the rest of it really doesn't matter that much.

1. Don't be abusive (or abused).
2. Good basic nutrition all around for moms and kids.
3. Go easy on the drugs and alcohol.
4. Bond with them, be present, and be responsive to their needs.
5. Provide consistent and secure structure for their lives, including discipline

If you've got those five items covered, whether or not you spank is really pretty much beside the point. Just figure out what works for you and your family, and do that.


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:eek: .....  :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
This is exactly why I never joined any mommy groups, or really have friends with kids.
I fucking hate other parents and the way they act.

"What did you do when your son acted like this?"
"I spanked him"
"Oh I can't do that to little Katie, I just think it would have too many long term psychological effects"
"My kid turned out fine. I turned out fine. You got spanked, remember?"
"Yes but my little Brycer is different"
"FUCK YOU IN YOUR DUMB FUCKING FACE YOU STUPID CUNT"

I don't have friends with kids.

I have noticed a disturbing trend - mind you, this isn't based on an actual study or anything - that kids who never get spanked wind up completely without compassion.

I think that if you don't associate pain with bad acts, then there are no bad acts in your mind.

There is research on this, and this is not correct.

I am not saying that you must not spank. I am just saying that spanking doesn't create compassion.

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I don't have kids, so that sounds kind of fucked up to me.


Remember, I don't have kids, so my perspective is most likely off

Compassion is a learned behavior.

Hmmm

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Or Kill Me / Re: Burgers?
« on: April 22, 2014, 09:26:23 pm »
What happened was science started disproving large chunks of biblical myth?

Nope. The Church has always been fairly flexible on that point. Catholics and Lutherans aren't literalists, like Fundies are. And, there is little "Biblical myth" that can't work around scientific knowledge.

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Google "freebleeding".

That was a big thing among the uber-alt crowd when I was 19, too. I think it's always been around, just on the fringe.

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The Richard Nixon school of ballet and the arts / Re: Spagbook
« on: April 22, 2014, 09:20:14 pm »
Awww, it's a black and blue waffles.

 :eek:

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You are, of course, right about that crowd being fodder for the persecution fetishists, Roger, but luckily they've ghettoized themselves to such an obscure corner of the Internet they might as well be having their clandestine meetings deep in the jungle. I resent the special snowflake attitude for it being a variation on rugged individualism - separating onesself from the point of reference for its own sake and thus weakening the strength of any significant effort at real change.

And then I look at them and I love them, in an odd way. Here we had a generation told you can be whatever you want to be and they grew up jaded and cynical for the lie, so we told the next ones you can be whoever you want to be and they said, "Okay, I'm butanoisexual. I am only turned on by the rancid butter smell of male ginkgo biloba berries," and the response is a resounding, "BUUUUUHHHHH..."

These people couldn't be invented by even the most warped of minds. They had to grow together naturally, and in an awful and hilarious way.

Goddamn. This is beautiful. As is the OP. Perhaps they are complementary doctrines of Holy™.

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Or Kill Me / Re: Burgers?
« on: April 22, 2014, 09:15:36 pm »
The more we learn, the less water primitive superstitious ignorance holds. Newton and Einstein and whatnot were fine because they stuck to belief in a non-defined abstraction of god, a creator. This is not mutually exclusive with science since there is no data before the big bang, it may very well have been some giant invisible dude just suddenly popping into existence and deciding he was bored.

Belief in religious texts, however, is almost completely incompatible with scientific method, since the vast majority of most of them is demonstrably gobshite. Rabbits being merely the tip of the iceberg.

You might consider looking into the early history of scientific inquiry.

You mean back when there were only four elements or when the earth was flat, not long after the theory was put forward that some white guy with a beard walked on water? You taking about that early? Or a bit later when they'd worked out there were a few more boxes on the periodic table, or the earth was actually a ball of rock, hurtling round the sun or that the surface tension of water was nowhere near strong enough to support a free standing Caucasian?

Somewhere in between?

What's really funny is that the number one patron of scientists from 1400-1700 AD was the Catholic Church.

Followed closely by nobles co-funding the Lutheran church in the 1600s.

Yes, this is what I was talking about. The pursuit of scientific inquiry was considered one of the most God-glorifying pursuits, because what more noble subject is there for man than to study the Creation of God?

I'm not really sure what happened after that, or why for some reason most Born-Agains hate science.

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So, today's events: my workjob just had our last 8:30 am meeting, which is a relief. We don't meet again until the focus group on the 10th. My boss offered to coach me about my upcoming Ford Foundation interview, and she's rad so I bet she'll be super helpful.

I was an hour late for my geology quiz because I was working on my chemistry lab and for some reason I thought geology lab was at 1. The instructor did not give a single fuck, and I was done at the normal time so all's well that ends well.

I almost died when a truck ran a red light and stopped six inches short of the bus, which it was about to T-bone right where I was sitting. OK, so maybe I wouldn't have died, but it would have hells of sucked.

I found a food cart that serves enormous salad rolls for $3.50. This is my new snacktreat stop.

Kid disappeared and missed school and her therapy session. Kid was found safe in Canby, being irresponsible.

I came home and started beans for various salads, and now I'm procrastinating finishing my chemistry homework. I hate chemistry. I really really do. Hate it.

There is suddenly a thunderstorm.

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