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GASM Command / Re: EggGASM
« on: June 13, 2008, 04:00:16 am »
The Mythics of Harmonia adopted this as Erister Egg Hunt the same time Cramulus adopted it as EggGASM.  I like both names--whatever works to get the word spread.  I'll come back later and post details of what some of the groups did.

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Principia Discussion / Re: Hello, I am a Christian Discordian
« on: June 10, 2008, 11:31:17 pm »
The thing about Christianity is that it is such a wide tradition, with so many interpretations and subgroups.  So many different kinds of people label themselves as Christian that I think the word has really lost most of its meaning....

I like this (the whole thing, not just the part I quoted.)  One thing that makes Christianity different from most religions is that it was never truly "one religion," largely because it began after its "founder's" death.  Paul's letters to the seven churches that existed in the very early days of Christianity show that their theologies were very different from each other.

That's one thing Christianity and Discordianism have in common--they were never unified (if we conveniently ignore that period when the Roman Catholic Church controlled most of Europe).

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Principia Discussion / Re: "Goddess" ... Just Sexist Bullshit?
« on: June 10, 2008, 11:11:39 pm »
I never cursed as a child. My parents forbade it, as did the JW's. I don't recall ever saying Goddamnit, or fuck... I remember once when I got spanked for saying piss.

Until fairly recently, "piss" was one of the words specifically considered obscene for public broadcast by the American FCC (Federal Communications Commission).  Comedian George Carlin got some mileage off this with es routine about the Seven Dirty Words. (Note genderless term "es"--makes this post fit the original thread, sort of).

Some of you may know that Principia Discordia refers to a verse in the King James Version of the Bible (the version most often quoted by American traditional Christian fundamentalists), that talks about he that pisseth against the wall.  The following even stronger verse also appears in the KJV:

2 Kings 18:27 "...Hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?"  There's an almost identical version of this in Isaiah 36:12.

I wonder.  Had someone quoted this verse on TV when the obscenity law still stood, and had someone else pointed out that the law had been violated, what would have happened?  What would be the reaction of the fundamentalist Christians who supported the law when it would mean declaring their own Bible obscene?

Reverend "Can you tell I was raised by a Bible-thumping Grandfather?" Loveshade

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Principia Discussion / Re: "Goddess" ... Just Sexist Bullshit?
« on: June 10, 2008, 01:26:36 am »
I should also like to point out that, today at precisely 5:37 a.m. in Bea Arthur's home town of New York, New York, the time was precisely 5:37 a.m.

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Principia Discussion / Re: "Goddess" ... Just Sexist Bullshit?
« on: June 10, 2008, 12:23:03 am »
None of this has ANYTHING to do with Bea Arthur's vagina.

Really? I thought EVERYTHING had to do with Bea Arthur's vagina.

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Principia Discussion / Re: "Goddess" ... Just Sexist Bullshit?
« on: June 08, 2008, 04:32:50 am »
my dad lived in the US for a year when he was little, and he had to pledge allegiance to the flag every morning in school (or something like that--do you still have to do that?), but he always mumbled "and the Netherlands" under his breath.
not really because he was such a rebel or anything, but it simply makes more sense that way, to a kid, i suppose.

Good for your Dad.

Legally, you don't still have to recite the pledge in school in America, but some schools still insist on it.  As far I as I know, currently it's often said in elementary schools, sometimes in junior high schools, and very seldom in high schools.

The U. S. Supreme Court originally decided right before the beginning of World War II that schools could force students to recite it.  Members of I think the Jehovah's Witnesses had believed that saying a pledge to an inanimate object was idolatry (frankly, I tend to agree), but they lost.  But ironically during World War II, when American Patriotism was at its height ("Kill for America!"), the Supreme Court reversed its decision, I think on First Amendment grounds (for non-Americans, that amendment to the U. S. Constitution covers Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Religion, Freedom of the Press, stuff like that).

I've refused to say the pledge from the 6th grade up through my senior year oh highschool, and most of the time I was able to get away with just some dirty looks, but I got kicked out of a few classes, was not allowed to take a test which would have ruined my grade if the administration hadn't intervened, and I've had multiple angry phone calls to my parents.

That shows you what happens when you Satanic Atheist Communist Nazi Axis of Evil Slebs try forcing your Anti-American Freedom of Speech and Religion Crap down the throats of us good Patriotic Americans!

Oh wait, Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion are American.  Nevermind.

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Principia Discussion / Re: Hello, I am a Christian Discordian
« on: June 08, 2008, 04:25:38 am »
I still don't get what the point of that would be.

I dunno... that motherfucker caused a hell of a lot of chaos over the past 2000 years.

Ohhhhhhh, wow, it just occurred to me how many people it would piss off if we canonized Jesus...

Discordians for Jesus at http://discordia.loveshade.org/ek-sen-trik-kuh/discordiajesus.html also thought it was a great idea, hence the name.  Although I believe they're serious.

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Principia Discussion / Re: "Goddess" ... Just Sexist Bullshit?
« on: June 07, 2008, 04:58:30 pm »
my dad lived in the US for a year when he was little, and he had to pledge allegiance to the flag every morning in school (or something like that--do you still have to do that?), but he always mumbled "and the Netherlands" under his breath.
not really because he was such a rebel or anything, but it simply makes more sense that way, to a kid, i suppose.

Good for your Dad.

Legally, you don't still have to recite the pledge in school in America, but some schools still insist on it.  As far I as I know, currently it's often said in elementary schools, sometimes in junior high schools, and very seldom in high schools.

The U. S. Supreme Court originally decided right before the beginning of World War II that schools could force students to recite it.  Members of I think the Jehovah's Witnesses had believed that saying a pledge to an inanimate object was idolatry (frankly, I tend to agree), but they lost.  But ironically during World War II, when American Patriotism was at its height ("Kill for America!"), the Supreme Court reversed its decision, I think on First Amendment grounds (for non-Americans, that amendment to the U. S. Constitution covers Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Religion, Freedom of the Press, stuff like that).

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Principia Discussion / Re: "Goddess" ... Just Sexist Bullshit?
« on: June 07, 2008, 05:45:23 am »
If you were blessed with being raised in The Greatest Nation on Earth, and The Freest Nation on Earth called the United States of America (excuse me while I gag), skip this intro.

The American Pledge of Allegiance is "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."  (end of intro)


When my cohorts Princess Unicornia and Fairy Princess Yoshikyoko recite the American Pledge of Allegiance (which had the phrase "under God" added to it in 1954 to show the world that America wasn't like the Godless Communists), they say "under God and Goddess."

Sometimes I simply says, "On top of Goddess."

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Principia Discussion / Re: An interview with you
« on: June 07, 2008, 05:11:01 am »
Gosh, you're such a kind and loving bunch.  How sweet.

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Principia Discussion / Re: List of Discordian books
« on: June 07, 2008, 05:03:39 am »
Oddly enough, it says Book of Eris was added there Jan 01,1970, decades before it was even written.  How'd they do that?


Verthaine probably messed up the target date while travelling between multiverses.  It happens.

Jan 1, 1970 is the start of the UNIX time epoch.

it's the date/time you get when a UNIX timestamp (measured as seconds since midnight Jan 1 1970) is accidentally set to zero.

so probably a computer glitch somewhere.

Of these two explanations, one is obviously bogus.  (Yes, I know you can see it coming).

Computer glitch?  HA!  Obviously an attempt to cover up St. Verthaine the Goth's Multiversal Transport System!

Reverend "I exposed your evil cover up didn't I? Bwah ha ha" Loveshade

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As a N00bs (whatever that is, I'm guessing I'm one because I was called one by two or more people), I have a suggestion.  Those of you who have been here for a long time have been here a long time.  Sounds self-evident, no?  Just like it's evident you principiadiscordia.com oldtimers (who are distinct but knowing individuals, I'm sure) know what N00bs be.

But who's the least likely person to know what N00b means?  A N00b!

Perhaps you might want to think about having the post clearly identify what a N00b is, and also make it clear where a N00b can find the advice on what a N00b should and should not do.  That way, maybe someone won't get flamed on their first post here, not knowing they're breaking rule 537 of the N00bian Handbook.

Of course I realize it's traditional for governments to punish their citizens for laws the citizens never heard of.  It's easier to keep people in line that way.  And I also realize that Discordians try to make as many laws as possible, because after all imposition of order = escalation of disorder.  It's the Second Law of Thermowhatzits, or something.

Thank you for letting me have my say.

Reverend "N00bian" Loveshade

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This is Discordia... there are no rules. However, if you break the rules, goddess help ya.

I love this quote (which I very slightly altered so it could stand on its own).

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Principia Discussion / Re: List of Discordian books
« on: June 06, 2008, 05:27:36 am »
While not exactly a Discordian book, you might want to check out The Prankster and the Conspiracy: The Story of Kerry Thornley and How He Met Oswald and Inspired the Counterculture by Adam Gorightly with an intro by Robert Anton Wilson.  It tells more about the beginnings of Discordianism and the Thornley-Lee Harvey Oswald-John F. Kennedy assassination connection than any book I know.

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Principia Discussion / Re: List of Discordian books
« on: June 06, 2008, 05:23:07 am »
I think they mean Verthaine's Book of Eris.

http://poee.co.uk/site/component/option,com_rsfiles/task,files.display/path,...Ancient_Erisian_Texts...bookoferis.pdf/Itemid,28/ should get you to where you want to be.

I'll update the links page.

Oddly enough, it says Book of Eris was added there Jan 01,1970, decades before it was even written.  How'd they do that?

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