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Techmology and Scientism / Re: Air to Water Dehumidifiers?
« on: October 06, 2008, 05:19:50 am »
IDK I did not look that up I looked up more what you could by being a farmer or a land owner. They said that would work for streams and wells so you could get a private filter for your water. It is drinkable.

Yep. I was just making sure that you weren't indicating that sewage treatment effluent was potable. Although they use UV for bacterial removal at the end of the process, it isn't anywhere near safe to drink. Safe for fish though.

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Techmology and Scientism / Re: Air to Water Dehumidifiers?
« on: October 06, 2008, 04:27:57 am »
Then the water is free of pathogenic micro-organisms and is well filtered. It is the same system they use for streams.

You mean, municipal water works/treatment for drinking water?

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Techmology and Scientism / Re: Air to Water Dehumidifiers?
« on: October 06, 2008, 04:07:54 am »
To make potable you ad in some coal filter and bam... not to hard.

Will that kill microorganisms?

After looking that up, I found out it was rumored to but does not actually kill pathogenic micro-organisms.

Farther investigation leads me to a couple different filters, one is built with 0.2 micron ceramikx/carbon, and one with coconut shell carbon. But for the best choice they use UV.

UV is what this dehumidifier uses.

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Techmology and Scientism / Re: Air to Water Dehumidifiers?
« on: October 06, 2008, 03:58:15 am »
Weirdly, I only know this because I just had this conversation with one of my two best friends, who is a doctor of chemistry. We were actually discussing that bottled water that has extra ions added and LOLing ourselves sick over the pseudo-scientifical jargon all over the label.
Is that SmartWater?

I think that's the brand! Hilarious.

Kai, unless you are malnourished or drink too much water, you would be perfectly alright drinking distilled water, although honestly I think it tastes disgusting and no one should drink it.

I'm pretty underweight. From a health related standpoint I don't think I can afford to drink distilled water.

I've taken physiology and understand osmotic potential. I also understand the what and why of ionic nutrition in your body, that is, why you need potassium and chlorine and sodium and calcium and magnesium. Though you may be able to live off distilled water, I would hold that evolutionarily, our physiology is not optimized for it.

Of course, nor is our physiology optimized for most of modern civilization.

Pre-industrial rainwater was pretty absent of minerals. Also, while I'm not arguing that your field of study has certainly armed you with an understanding of the mechanisms, the actual level of mineral leaching from drinking distilled water is exactly none if your intake of those minerals is adequate, and if it's not, you seriously need to look into that. If you're not taking in adequate minerals there is some leaching going on all the time from drinking anything, especially caffeinated beverages.

I'm certainly not an advocate of distilled water, I just think that your statements about why you should not drink it are a little dramatic. And don't try to one-up me with your biology degree because it won't work. :)





Sorry. Not trying to one up you. Trying to find biological rational for consumptive habits in order to be healthy. My health, really.

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Techmology and Scientism / Re: Air to Water Dehumidifiers?
« on: October 06, 2008, 03:42:20 am »
To make potable you ad in some coal filter and bam... not to hard.

Will that kill microorganisms?

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Discordian Recipes / Re: IRON CHEF SUU - BATTLE OF THE MARINADE BAGS 2008
« on: October 06, 2008, 03:33:21 am »
Suu,

I just wanted to let you know, I used your marinade recipie tonight and the steak came out awesome.

Thank you.

~Kai

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Techmology and Scientism / Re: To crap with the Chevy Volt
« on: October 06, 2008, 03:27:11 am »
Oh, this is interesting.

http://earthanet.com/2008/01/28/plasma-arc-gasification-turning-garbage-into-gas/

Garbage into energy. 

they turn trash into energy at a plant near where I live.

the people downwind of it have the most justifiable case of NIMBY ever.

Yeah, just think of all those VOC's and toxic/heavy metal particulates raining down on the countryside or the oceans.

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Techmology and Scientism / Re: Air to Water Dehumidifiers?
« on: October 06, 2008, 03:23:58 am »
Weirdly, I only know this because I just had this conversation with one of my two best friends, who is a doctor of chemistry. We were actually discussing that bottled water that has extra ions added and LOLing ourselves sick over the pseudo-scientifical jargon all over the label.
Is that SmartWater?

I think that's the brand! Hilarious.

Kai, unless you are malnourished or drink too much water, you would be perfectly alright drinking distilled water, although honestly I think it tastes disgusting and no one should drink it.

I'm pretty underweight. From a health related standpoint I don't think I can afford to drink distilled water.

I've taken physiology and understand osmotic potential. I also understand the what and why of ionic nutrition in your body, that is, why you need potassium and chlorine and sodium and calcium and magnesium. Though you may be able to live off distilled water, I would hold that evolutionarily, our physiology is not optimized for it.

Of course, nor is our physiology optimized for most of modern civilization.

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Techmology and Scientism / Re: To crap with the Chevy Volt
« on: October 06, 2008, 12:42:13 am »
Huh.  Okay, and I assume that includes storm drains too?

Output of storm drains is untreated, it is simply piped to the nearest stream or lake.

Right, so those storm pipes could possibly be used to generate power?

Especially if you designed a storm drain system that was meant to generate the most possible power. 

It could work. Would be event driven however. Only useful in the wettest climates.

In such wet climates, what with there being a river right there and all, and it would take such a quantity of stormwater routed together in a completely revamped drainage system, it might make more sense to just build hydroelectric plants right at the riv... oh, wait.

Right. I was just considering whether it could work, not whether it made sense.

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Techmology and Scientism / Re: Air to Water Dehumidifiers?
« on: October 06, 2008, 12:39:42 am »
Alright.

I guess its still a good idea I don't drink distilled water. I don't eat a massive amount.

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Techmology and Scientism / Re: Air to Water Dehumidifiers?
« on: October 05, 2008, 10:17:39 pm »
What's wrong with distilled water?

Because it lacks ions, it has a tendency to cause decline in concentration in tissues over time, especially bones. In metaphorical terms, since distilled water has nothing in it, it acts like an ion magnet, drawing ions downgradient out of cells.

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Techmology and Scientism / Re: To crap with the Chevy Volt
« on: October 05, 2008, 10:14:40 pm »
Huh.  Okay, and I assume that includes storm drains too?

Output of storm drains is untreated, it is simply piped to the nearest stream or lake.

Right, so those storm pipes could possibly be used to generate power?

Especially if you designed a storm drain system that was meant to generate the most possible power. 

It could work. Would be event driven however. Only useful in the wettest climates.

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Techmology and Scientism / Re: Air to Water Dehumidifiers?
« on: October 05, 2008, 09:42:14 pm »
http://www.elementfour.com/

A device that extracts potable water from thin air.

I'm skeptical, myself.  Anyone heard of these or seen them work?

I don't know about potable water but my parents have been using dehumidifiers for years. The problem is of course that A) it takes energy to draw humidity out of the air, usually by cooling a series of coils, and B) you have to have enough moisture in the air so there is a gradient. It also doesn't work well below certain temperatures.

Oh, and I forgot, its also distilled water, which is not healthy over extended periods.

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Techmology and Scientism / Re: To crap with the Chevy Volt
« on: October 05, 2008, 09:38:37 pm »
Huh.  Okay, and I assume that includes storm drains too?

Output of storm drains is untreated, it is simply piped to the nearest stream or lake.

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Techmology and Scientism / Re: To crap with the Chevy Volt
« on: October 05, 2008, 07:42:26 pm »
yeah, it's called "hydroelectric power".

 :lulz:

Incidentally, I had an idea.  I'm obviously no engineer, but what's stopping us from getting hydroelectric from certain city sewer systems?

Mostly that sewage treatment already uses massive amounts of electricity for water pumping but even more so for aeration tanks, settling pools, and other aspects. Its an energy intensive process, and any down slope movement is slowed by settling pools, aeration tanks, mechanical (both passive and active) particulate removal, etc.

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