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Or Kill Me / Re: The Interregnum, Part 2

« on: November 01, 2009, 02:21:03 am »

Cramulus, that artwork looks like a Dystopia cover.
actually it does, thisone:

Wow, i havent seen that band mentioned about... 9 years ago...

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The peanut gallery / Unlimited Morn Fail Thread

« on: November 01, 2009, 01:48:54 am »

I really can't recall being that, but as I said the mind has a tendency to warp things and people really tend to believe you're either arrogant, or antagonistic or unfriendly if you have some constructive criticism, I really meant nothing with it but people often see it like that if you give them some constructive criticism.

It's an interesting sociological thing and it makes the world go round really. Any way, if you read any of this post in an 'unfriendly' tone, that's interesting as I never meant to place it in it and I really haven't used any harsh words or any thing so try to ask yourself why you find it 'antagonistic' in the first place.

The tone is most definitely there, otherwise multiple people wouldn't call you on it. Are you sure you don't just do it as defense mechanism?

There's no tone on the internet, the tone is what you make of it, it's text. If any, I'm quite sure it's the other party's defence mechanism.

The point is, it's really easy to believe that some person that attacks your point has some 'bad' qualities to sustain your own self image, it's what people to every day. If you attack some one at some thing, no matter how right or wrong or genuinely interested in truth or just being there to fuzz that person you are, to most people that doesn't matter as you, to them, shall appear 'cocky' or some thing like that because that's simply much easier to believe for most people. The human mind is amazing at warping reality and generally believes the things that suits it to believe.

So again, I'd ask you to consider exactly what is antagonistic about it, which words I used that indicate it. It's really a very human thing people just feel that's there but can't really point out. But here you have my tone ,or at least the tone in which I typed it, so maybe it can help.

Would you take my word in that I did not mean to place that tone that's arguably 'in it' at the least?

FUCK YOU, YOU ARROGANT CONTRARIAN PASSIVE AGRESSIVE NOOB

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Apple Zone / Re: Calling all cultural commissars

« on: October 29, 2009, 06:25:19 am »

Now, if i say i love "Natural Born Killers", its implicitly expressed that i dont have much against murdering for the thrill of it.

For example.

Surely you can watch and like movies that praise your ideology (or even perhaps stuff that is "neutrally charged" to say it somehow) but not filled with things that go against your worldview or ideology.


PS. DOES ANYONE HERE LOVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS (1956)

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Apple Zone / Re: Calling all cultural commissars

« on: October 29, 2009, 06:22:02 am »

Gee, wild coincidence that you didnt pick a "chick flick".

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Apple Zone / Re: Calling all cultural commissars

« on: October 29, 2009, 06:01:12 am »

Of course his ideological beliefs will influence his movie selection, however slightly. What he's saying, though, is that ideological beliefs should not be the only damn thing that determines which movies you watch. You shouldn't watch a movie just so you can have the petty little pleasure of hearing your own worldview coming out of someone else's mouth.

Also, neither should you immediately reject a message because its bias is different from your own (and yes, you are biased).

Perhaps you could say your top 10 so theres evidence for or against what im saying?

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Apple Zone / Re: Let's talk about something else...

« on: October 29, 2009, 05:07:18 am »

OH, what i would give to see her reaction.

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Apple Zone / Re: Calling all cultural commissars

« on: October 29, 2009, 04:47:04 am »

A chat about people who use ideological litmus test's to decide whether or not a piece of art is good. 

Cain, do you not think that your own ideology and tastes implicitly predetermine what movies you like and which ones you dont? (Even do i agree its sad that these people's sense of identity is being "conservative")

If you say no, then you should post your top 10.

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High Weirdness / Re: Zalgo in the bathrom stall

« on: October 29, 2009, 03:42:27 am »

I went to the Mattel website to look for it, but i found nothing.

Is this a joke, or its simply not available yet?

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High Weirdness / Re: Zalgo in the bathrom stall

« on: October 29, 2009, 03:38:27 am »

No, fuck this, it cant be true.

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Or Kill Me / Re: Salve Discordia

« on: October 29, 2009, 03:33:59 am »

One thing which I have noticed about many Discordians is that many of them seem to believe that everyone can get along without arguing, forgetting that Eris is, first and foremost, the goddess of discord; A more important problem however, and one which is perpetrated by Discordians and Non-Discordians alike (particularly in the Church of the Sub-Genius) is a misinterpretation of the meaning of this discord:

Which "many discordians" ? Thats a retarded generalization.

   The Discord of Eris is not the bloody warfare of Ares or the wholesale destruction of J.R."BOB" Dobbs (may all acquittals be upon his name), but rather merely the small-scale petty bickering and domestic unrest seen amongst the guests of "The Jerry Springer Show" and those people picked up by the police on "Cops" and of mudslinging politicians during an election year.

Fuck you and your interpretations of what "discord" is supposed to be.

   Her Strife and Discord are present, to some degree, in the endless forms and infuriating decision making processes of bureaucracies, but only in their most bastardized form, as bureaucracies are often put in place in order to prevent conflicts, or at least those conflicts that could harm or pose a threat to their parent governments or companies, replacing them with stodgy, bastardized pseudo-conflicts that play out only on paper under the direction of uncaring paper pushers . Bureaucracies, and other infuriating things, instead lend more to the Discord of Eris more so in the expressions of outrage which they create than they do by the outrage itself their internal decision making.

"Imposition of Order = Escalation of Chaos" (or something like that)

   The discord of Eris is also manifest in the system of checks and balances of our political system⁽²⁾; Even though the majority of both the Democrats and the Republicans are either promoting some corrupt personal or partisan agenda and/or (else), failing that, are incompetent, when you get both parties together in congress in approximately even numbers, the corruptions on both sides more-or-less cancel each other out. If there was only one political party, then all of that party’s agendas and machinations, even those of the most corrupt nature, would quickly come to fruition and we’d swiftly be plunged into a nightmarish dystopia. If both of the parties, instead, acted truly bi-partisanly, then it would either be functionally the same as having only one political party, or else we would get stuck with compromised (and/or bastardized) laws that please nobody .

What the fuck does mental jacking off about the political parties has to do with anything?

   

Oh, and also evolution; Strife and Discord power evolution as well; The Natural Selection part of evolution anyway...

If you are gonna make a claim, be decent enough to argue why so.

Since it is perhaps naïve to believe that we can ever all get along truly equitably, here are just a few examples of situations where, by replacing methods of conflict resolution that rely on warfare or dehumanizing stodginess, the Discord of Eris could enrich all of our lives, if only society would let it:

1.) Bureaucracies: these are generally put in place to ensure that resources are allocated in the most efficient way possible, but are themselves wildly inefficient. I think that we can all agree that it would less time consuming and aggravating for all involved if we settled questions of resource allocation through bare-knuckle brawls instead. This system would also represent a savings in terms of space for corporations and governmental departments based in a small number of large buildings, as a boxing ring, pit-of-death, and/or Thunderdome in each building would take up less space than that already used up by bureaucratic record-keeping facilities and the offices of existing bureaucrats

A society privileging the mindless tough grunts. Great.

2.) Peace and War: If everyone could learn to be so uncooperative that order could no longer be maintained within the ranks of armies than there would be no more wars.

Yea, so you go to jail for being non-responsive to a superior officer's command. Got any military experience? Dont think so.
                                       

3.) Peaceful Conflict Resolution: I believe that the most sensible way for the leaders of the world’s various nations to settle conflicts without going to war is to attack each other directly, or, failing that, to attack each other’s families. This would be preferable both in terms of loss of life and effects on the national economy.
          To give just one specific example (of many possible) of just the economic benefits of this plan, current estimations show that the United States of America could have saved up to possibly as much as 4.5 trillion dollars (and almost countless lives) to date by bribing one of Saddam Hussein’s bodyguards to murder him in his sleep⁽³⁾ instead of going to war in Iraq.

I am not a crackpot, (or, at least, if I am, then that doesn’t necessarily mean that I’m wrong)!

Are you like 15? Mentally retarded? Live in a bubble? Please do answer.      

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Or Kill Me / Re: The Interregnum, Part 2

« on: October 28, 2009, 08:43:22 pm »

Watch The Network, the part where Howard Beale gets religion from the CEO.

All will be explained.

Ill do as soon as i can.

I dont know who Glenn Beck is, but i do know all of you do, and i found this tidbit...

Conservative talk-show host, Glenn Beck, has repeatedly compared himself to Howard Beale.(http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3795)

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Or Kill Me / Re: The Interregnum, Part 2

« on: October 28, 2009, 08:32:09 pm »

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Or Kill Me / Re: The Interregnum, Part 2

« on: October 28, 2009, 08:28:13 pm »

thanks much! larger sizes available upon request - photobucket trims everything down.
And what is that idea?

do you not think that the same system of opression of "20% crushing all below" has changed at any point in all the history of humanity? Do you not think that the only difference is the technological prowess? Only royalty had mirrors in the middle ages because of its technological price, and now we have the commodity of mirrors only by grace of technology... Hope im making myself clear.

I cant find some resources i would need for basis of this... but i saw some article that shows the distribution of money and basicly 20% of the population has 80% of the capital...

Basicly what im getting is that, that has been going on since the earliest of empires or structured government such as the egyptians up to now.

Pharaos --> Tyrants > Kings --> Transnational Companies

so compare these two charts... one is my view on how things work, and the other one is the way its supposed to be.



other piece of crap thing trouble loading... please standby...

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Or Kill Me / Re: The Interregnum, Part 2

« on: October 28, 2009, 06:07:42 pm »

Cram, thats a fucking awesome image you made there, it synthetizes one of my personal important ideas.

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Literate Chaotic / Re: I don't know if this idea is brilliant, terrible, or both

« on: October 28, 2009, 03:43:44 am »

I am Cram, Cram I am.

  I do not like Professor Cram.

Would you an escape plan?

  I would not like an escape plan, I do not want one Cram I am.

Do you like your nine to five, would you say you're still alive?

  I do not like my nine to five, but I would say I am still alive.
  I do not want an escape plan, I do not want one, Cram I am.

Would you like to barricade the doors, and with this fire-axe liberate all the floors?

  I will not barricade any doors, I will not liberate any floors.
  I do not like my nine to five, but I would say I am still alive.
  I do not want an escape plan, I do not want one, Cram I am.

Look at the fat fucks in marketing, we could roast their flesh and dance and sing!

  I will not eat the marketing team, what are you on? You've gone obscene!
  I will not barricade any doors, I will not liberate any floors.
  I do not like my nine to five, but I would say I am still alive.
  I do not want an escape plan, I do not want one, Cram I am.

Look around you what do you see? Is this all you want to ever be?

  I will not look you can't make me, happiness requires conformity.

Oh god wake up, and don't believe your own lies
  ...As he heard the voice, the internal struggle intensified...

  I want to eat the marketing team, I want to hear them curse and scream!
  I will so barricade the doors, and bring true synergy to all the floors!
  I might not see another nine or five, but at least I can say I was alive!
  I do not need another escape plan, I've made my own, Professor Cram.


Man. That sucks balls. Feel free to rape this corpse of any ideas not already beyond putrefaction.

I liked it Mr. Puss