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Apple Talk / Re: Roger: An Apology
« on: March 28, 2011, 05:43:23 am »

That's a low fucking accusation.

You'll notice that this isn't a denial.   :lulz:

Yes!  Look how devious I am!

According to you I'm deleting posts, presumably cooking the logs too, and my super smart plan to get away with it, isn't to simply lie, but to... avoid the question!  Sweet irony.

I must be a motherfucking genius.

Of course I deny it.  It's just that I have no way to prove it.  I'm not going to convince _anyone_ in a matchup between your reputation and mine.  And now that you've made the accusation, there's no way for you to back down without ruining your own.

This is check-mate, isn't it.

Apple Talk / Re: Roger: An Apology
« on: March 28, 2011, 05:24:56 am »
That's why he's been demanding them non-stop.  He erased them.  :lol:

That's a low fucking accusation.

I've been asking for an explanation so we could discuss our disagreement.  When you refused, I asked for a link, as I figured that would be easier to provide, and I'd have more chance of getting to the discussion.

So as you can see, I had a compelling motivation to delete your posts, as that would undoubtedly prevent any discussion.

You've gone off the deep end Roger.

Apple Talk / Re: Roger: An Apology
« on: March 28, 2011, 05:06:42 am »
You started a fight with me.

You made that fight public.

I did?   :lulz:

Yes.  Demonstrably.  It's already been demonstrated.  You declined to comment.

You won't even tell me what it was that you think it is that I did to wrong you.  I keep pressing you on that point, and now after trolling it for half a week you're calling me a liar and blaming me for dragging the forum through the mud.  :lulz:

Still dodging the simple question.

You're such a fucking liar, Fictionpuss.  I've written out my gripe FOUR times.  The fact that you choose to ignore and then say I haven't said it is just further proof of your absolute lack of integrity.

Link?  Stop dodging the question.

Also, "I'd take it back if I could" (referencing the comment about EVERYONE ON PD) wasn't an apology.

You're too fucking weak to make a proper apology to anyone.

Well now you're twisting words.

Apple Talk / Re: Roger: An Apology
« on: March 28, 2011, 04:55:53 am »
You started a fight with me.

You made that fight public.

You won't even tell me what it was that you think it is that I did to wrong you.  I keep pressing you on that point, and now after trolling it for half a week you're calling me a liar and blaming me for dragging the forum through the mud.  :lulz:

Still dodging the simple question.

Apple Talk / Re: Roger: An Apology
« on: March 28, 2011, 04:46:31 am »
I notice you left out the part where you called us all "miserable fucks"

I did not say that.

and said that PD wasn't capable of speaking for itself.

Out of context.

I'd actually like to take this opportunity to apologise for the way I've used PD in some of our discussions on Discordian community.  Thing is, PD is the Discordian community - I don't know of any others which are even worth mentioning.  But that does not excuse rhetorical carelessness.

Also, using this forum to strike a personal point against Roger - not cool.  I'd take that back if I could.

Jesus fucking christ.

CU seriouly? What the fuck?  First off this should have stayed in PM from the get go. However now that you've flung shit for the world to see you can't even man up with a simple fucking apology?  

This is complete bullshit and my advice is to grow a pair and just admit you fucked up.



I did apologise genuinely - post #5, less than an hour after the OP:

Apple Talk / Re: Roger: An Apology
« on: March 28, 2011, 01:57:39 am »
How is that is a fucking apology?

The Apology of Socrates.  Referenced in the second line.  Right after "Dear Roger".  Made explicit in the third.  You can't miss it.  So I'm only halfway through it myself, since it has lots of big words and very few pictures, but I'm assuming that all works out for him in the end.

Right.  So Roger starts a public fight with me.  Starts shitting all over the forum, attacking me and trolling random discussions for a couple of days.  No rebuke.  I treat him with respect and civility trying to work it out, but to no avail.  Giving up, I finally I shit back with one inflammatory post of my own and suddenly I'm Formentor, and EB&G is TCC and CoG combined.

Wow.  It's nice to see that almost two years of being an active user, trying to support this site has absolutely no value.  Good to know.

Warning!  There's a line folks.  Do not cross.

Oh.  And re-read that Formentor thread when you get a chance.  That guy was lynched over a misunderstanding.  Didn't back down because he felt he was in the right.  No olive branch.  No compromise.  Just Hateshit.

Apple Talk / Re: For a good laugh...
« on: March 26, 2011, 01:58:17 am »
Wow. The shitheadery is enormous.

"Roger quit being a mod.  This makes me so angry, I'm going to publish private conversations."

Except for the part where that is not actually true.

Apple Talk / Re: CRAMULUS
« on: March 24, 2011, 04:20:33 pm »
Does benefiting from that privilege mean we have an obligation to do something about it?

Apple Talk / Re: CRAMULUS
« on: March 24, 2011, 02:38:05 pm »

I think, more than anything, that Discordianism was written for White culture by the fact that it was written by privileged White guys (sounds like another document I know of).  It's hard to worry about the BIP, for example, if you're worried about being lynched or deported or denied employment time and again strictly because you're Black, etc (Be assured, this still happens.  Seen it myself.)

It's not that we keep them out; it's that there's no appeal for them to come in.
Exactly, the time to think nowadays is a luxury that's not easily available.

See this is the mindset I don't get... I don't really think economic factors are as important as some people do... I think some people just have natural inclinations to think certain ways.

I mean I've been pretty poor my entire life, only really in the last three or four years have I had enough money that I'm not constantly worrying about covering rent, food, etc.  It's one of the primary reasons my wife and I don't have kids.  Even now, I don't really make that much money... you'd be surprised how little porn photoshoppers make.  Or maybe you wouldn't.  But the point is, I've had a certain philosophical nature my entire life.  Does being comfortable give me more time to think about philosophical questions?  Sure, but that doesn't mean I didn't have them before.

So I guess that's the aspect I don't understand.

Yeah, I think the race thing is a bit of a white herring.

The bigger question seems to be: "Why the fuck would anyone want to be a Discordian anyway?" - related discussion here and here.

Apple Talk / Re: CRAMULUS
« on: March 24, 2011, 04:43:25 am »
I hate that about the UK.  It still lives within me, despite having spent scant time there in the last decade.

Or Kill Me / Re: Concerning The Immediate Future
« on: March 23, 2011, 01:00:22 pm »
There is no 'solution.' This crisis will not be 'fixed.' A few of its symptoms will be alleviated, a little bit. Maybe. For some people.

An uncaring and uncontrolled juggernaut of changes will run its course across the fields of humanity, leaving ruin, death, poverty, and confusion in its wake. No, it is running its course as I write this. It cannot be stopped, slowed, or hastened to its destination. It will have its way with us before the survivors are left to build yet another empire from the rubble.

And we shall make up a story or two explaining why it all happened, what we did wrong, and how to avoid such things in the future. But it won't make a lick of difference because it's too late and we're fucking hopeless when it comes to finding out where the next juggernaut is coming from.

This is not the end of days, nor even the end of civilization. Do not be so optimistic. Humanity has prophesied its own demise a thousand times in the hopes that the next big catastrophic clusterfuck will be the last one we have to struggle through. The doomsayers are the hopeful ones; once humanity is destroyed or reduced to barbarism it won't have to live with memories of the disasters it can't believe it didn't see coming, and the torturous knowledge that it will happen again. And again, and again.

But humanity is big, dumb, and resilient. It cannot be destroyed, not even by its own hands. It shall lumber along as it always has, clumsily and nearly-blind, crawling and drooling its way into the future.

There will be another huge fucking disaster; a maelstrom of blood, anger, and misery. And when the dust settles we'll have lots and lots of dead people and still no answers.

It's what we do.


2011 just called - why didn't we listen!???!?!?!

Apple Talk / Re: The place I thought I could call home
« on: March 21, 2011, 03:57:18 pm »
I understand - and I'd be a hypocrite if I suggested that my energy wasn't directed in a similar fashion as yours.

First step towards finding a broader scale solution?  Believing that one exists, ready to be discovered/uncovered/realized.  If you don't have that you're just left with cynicism and apathy.

Apple Talk / Re: The place I thought I could call home
« on: March 21, 2011, 03:17:40 pm »
Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I do have to say I'm pretty pessimistic these days when it comes to what's going on in the country.  And this has put me in a bit of a funk.  Especially when you know the majority of the people in your country, your community, voted for this crap, and seem to be okay with it.  It seems very daunting to have any hope against this immense amount of insufferable ignorance and idiocy. 

I mean, I see day after day, that this new Governor here is dismantling the tiny bit of progress we've made the past decade or so.  I guess I'm about at the point where my attitude is, fuck it, I'm going to take care of my family and the rest of the world can sink and drown for all I care.

Not picking on you personally, but this "we can't do anything about it" attitude is part of the problem.  It isn't that there is no solution, but that the solution is a long hard slog with uncertain odds that the turnaround will happen during the course of our lifetimes.

I don't think that's a reason to not try, but everyone has to make their own choice on that, you know?

Apple Talk / Nigel Appreciation Thread
« on: March 21, 2011, 02:17:12 pm »
Hey Nigel, you rock, and I missed you!

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