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This forum seems to have attracted a lot of colourful characters.

Maybe all forums do, if they last long enough.

Like this one? http://internet.gawker.com/the-greatest-internet-flame-wars-are-happening-on-clown-1709914009

 :lulz: I saw you post this on the Erotic Juggalo Fanfic page and knew it was just a matter of time before it'd show up here. That is some high-quality drama.

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To be fair, he gets a lot of hate when the actual murderer/cannibal we had on the site gets forgotten about (probably for the best)

Well, yeah, but that guy was a narcissist. He wants attention.

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"BH?"

A former poster here. I don't know the details too well, but apparently he was a necrophile and said that if his daughter ever got raped, he'd rather kill her than let her live with the repercussions. Everyone here thinks he's pretty repulsive.

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Interesting...

I've been curious about whether this might be related to the increasing polarization in public discourse. It could just be nostalgia, but I don't remember people jumping straight to 'fuck you and everything you stand for' the moment one aspect of something you said didn't jive with their view ten years ago - even on the heavily moderated sites like MysticWicks. That feels like it is new.

I've also stayed the hell away from Tumblr and Reddit, though, and I understand that Tumblr/Reddit is where a lot of the more in-depth discussions take place (for better or for worse), so it could be that there's a split between the kind of people who would want to use Facebook for serious talk - now using those two sites - and the kind of people who would use Facebook for casual stuff - now using Snapchat/Instagram.

I'd be curious to know what the user numbers on all four sites actually are compared with Facebook, and whether the decline in Facebook's traffic has coincided with a rise in theirs.

Tumblr in fact invented the FUCK YOU response, long before the political tards got ahold of it.

I thought it was the political tards on Tumblr. I mean, on the Internet at large, you're permitted to be in one of two camps, politically: Tumblr or the neo-Nazis from /pol/. There is no middle ground.

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Functionally, the difference between "Let's separate gender from sex" and "Let's do away with gender altogether" is nothing.

Unless you also intend to do away with the attendant behaviors, in which case you don't have any people left because all gender roles have done is take the naturally-occurring behaviors of human beings and segregated them according to sex.

As it is, the attendant behaviors are clustered together in semi-rigid groups. I would break these groups up as well, so that people could mix and match. Basically aiming for a situation where genderqueer and society-at-large become largely indistinguishable from each other.

Big talk for someone with absolutely no control over said behaviors and groups.

On an unrelated note, is it transphobic to not mention trans people at all? I ask because about a week ago, I was informed on Facebook that this was the case.

Depends on whether you're ignoring them despite their presence and relative relevance, or whether you simply have little enough exposure to them that you have no reason to mention them.

Hmm. I guess it was the former case. The context was that an image was posted (this one: https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11392916_934552266615816_812535875114742651_n.jpg?oh=5dbb30621150cfcdb6eadc85764ac167&oe=5608D8B8), and since none of the examples it used to argue its point were trans people, someone got mad. I can't imagine a drag performer(or anyone active in the LGBT community) was unaware of trans people, but at the same time the image was pretty busy as it was and it didn't come across to me as a deliberate effort at silencing anyone. The resulting rage therefore looked to me like an example of DOING IT WRONG perfectionism, but maybe I was wrong about that.

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I'm not qualified to diagnose antisocial personality disorders but even if I was I imagine you'd find a way to rationalise away any such criticism.

"Disorder" tends to imply a lack of self-awareness, or lack of awareness of one's actions on other people and situations. I think I'm quite aware of the consequences that my actions create for myself and others. The only times my views damage me or my relationships with other people are when my views are expressed, openly, to others. I could've kept quiet and you'd have never known the difference. At least I put it out in the open for all to analyze and criticize. I could just internalize it and hate myself, leading to emotional instability and heinous crime, or blame others for my problems and live in useless squalor. Your criticisms are far more valuable to me than compartmentalization.

I will live my life the way I choose, and I will eventually meet my maker. Same as any of you.

Wow, Paes. It came true so quickly.

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Functionally, the difference between "Let's separate gender from sex" and "Let's do away with gender altogether" is nothing.

Unless you also intend to do away with the attendant behaviors, in which case you don't have any people left because all gender roles have done is take the naturally-occurring behaviors of human beings and segregated them according to sex.

As it is, the attendant behaviors are clustered together in semi-rigid groups. I would break these groups up as well, so that people could mix and match. Basically aiming for a situation where genderqueer and society-at-large become largely indistinguishable from each other.

Big talk for someone with absolutely no control over said behaviors and groups.

On an unrelated note, is it transphobic to not mention trans people at all? I ask because about a week ago, I was informed on Facebook that this was the case.

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Exactly! Omnia vanitas.

Christ, what an asshole. I came into this discussion feeling vaguely uncomfortable because I held a philosophical position somewhat similar to yours and at the same time didn't see any need to belittle or harass trans people, and wasn't sure if that made me a bigot. Now I don't even care, I'm rejecting it. You've made it look that unappealing and pretentious.

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I'm thinking of quitting my job, for the reasons outlined above. One of my coworkers last December said to call them if I was looking for work, and that maybe they could get me a job at another garden centre, so I do have another option. Being treated like human garbage on a daily basis is bad enough, but I got called in to work today when I'd said ahead of time that I had an appointment, and I had to fight to keep the day off. I'm pretty sure I'm not gonna get any day off this month without a fight, and I had extracted a promise from my boss before the shit hit the fan that I would get some time off, so fuck it.

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I've never met a Discordian in my life.

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PeeDee, I bring you greetings from the land of Jobs That Aren't Imploding In A Cataclysmic Orgy of Incompetence.

 :argh!:

You lucky bastard. My boss's turned into a real asshole this past week, and he's singling me out. I don't know what the hell's up with him, but the outcome is a toxic mix of micromanagement, incompetence, and general authoritarian fuckery, and I'm catching the brunt of it. He'll tell me to do something, then when I'm in the middle of it he'll interrupt me to tell me either to do it the way I'm already doing it or to do it another way with obvious gaping flaws in the methodology. This has been something of a tradition of his, but lately it's escalated to the point that if I ask so much as a single question, he just snaps in my face and says "DON'T YOU FUCKING QUESTION ME." In all-caps, too. And there are a lot of questions that have to be asked. He contradicts himself, interrupts himself, leaves sentences half-finished, and leaves details vague with alarming regularity, so asking questions is a necessary part of discerning what he actually wants when he gives me orders. Honestly, I'm surprised he hasn't hit me yet.

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I apologize for my generation, Nigel.

Thank you. That makes me feel a little bit better, because it gives me hope that some of them will actually pull their heads out of their asses.

 :sad: You're killing me here.

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I HATH RISEN.

The invisible hand of the free market has seen fit to gift us with your presence. Clearly, small moderation is the way to go.

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Last Saturday, I lost my virginity. Thanks, okcupid!

Ok, some elaboration: Last week, I messaged and met up with a very nice girl. We liked each other and spent most of the week hanging out downtown. Eventually, the subject of sex came up, and it was something we both wanted to do, so we made plans and did it at the end of the week. It turns out we're really compatible, and it went well. Neither of us is really in a position for a romantic relationship, but I think we basically have the ideal kind of friendship with benefits. We're both really open about sex with each other, but it's far from the central reason we have anything to do with each other.

I've always been kinda terrified of the prospect of encroaching on someone else's boundaries or being creepy and predatory, and that's the main reason I hadn't really made a move with anyone before. I'm glad my first time turned out to be about as thoroughly consensual as humanly possible.

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There's more: https://witchwind.wordpress.com/2014/10/07/utopia-what-would-a-womens-society-look-like/

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All men at least above 15 (or younger if very asocial) should live separately from women and children, on their own in small huts or studios, isolated from one another and scattered around so that women can keep an eye on them (they should never be in groups or packs, that would be illegal). So it would also be illegal for male adults to impose their presence on females, girls and children. Men would have to care for themselves on their own: food, laundry, etc. No male above his age of puberty would be allowed to receive any kind of service from a female. Their life expectancy would probably drop to the age of 40, but thatís how things should be. Womenís life expectancy without men would rise to 130 years at least.

PIV would be illegal too of course, as well as the initiation of any verbal or physical contact to women and girls or boy children, unless solicited by a woman for specific matters. Iím not sure what to do about boy children. Obviously you know my opinion, but letís say thatís up to the mother to decide what she wants to do before he turns of age to leave the female family circle.
Does she want toxic masculinity? cuz this is how you get toxic masculinity. This setup wouldn't survive one month without a violent uprising. It's such a spiteful and neurotic form of fascism that it does even have the facade of efficiency and competence that the Nazis had.

Yeah, it struck me as kind of a huge logistical oversight that men are supposed to be isolated but they're just kinda tossed out into the wilderness without any supervision.

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