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Messages - ┼llnephew Tvř­le■°n

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Whatever happened to shooting to incapacitate?  Wouldn't a bullet in the lower leg down most people, without killing them?

That can be considered intent to maim, which would (ironically?) land you in hotter water than "proper" use of deadly force.

Yes. The person you shoot could sue you.

My guitarist looked into firearms licensing and the instructor said, if you draw, it's no going back. If you draw the intent is to kill in self-defense, because if they live, even if you don't shoot them, the might sue you. Now, this is second if not third hand, but that's pretty fucked up. I'd just be happy the dude didn't shoot me.

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And then THIS fucking thing:

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cell-phone-video-emerges-refutes-st-louis-cops-version-shooting/

Not exactly work safe. The full video of the other guy shot in St. Louis.


That was horrible. But it still looks like suicide by cop to me.

The cops account of the situation was exaggerated, but what would you do if someone walks toward you with a knife after saying "Shoot me, shoot me now"?

I would say in a clear loud voice "NO". Ok maybe that's because I am a sadist, but more likely its because I am a damned pinko liberal european who finds your murrican gun culture repugnant. I am shocked, the fact that a guy like you N E T, whose opinion I have always respected even if I didn't agree can so blithely write it off as suicide by cop. WTF does that even mean in a country where being black seems to carry a suspended death sentence. Jesus Fuck America, you have hardly moved on race matters since, well EVAR.

You can make me out to be some kind of callous monster if you'd like. But suicide by cop is a thing in the US, and it's perhaps the most fucked up way to kill oneself.

And the United States gun-cat is out of the bag. It's not going back in the bag. What do you think would happen if we tried to ban guns at this point?

I would also like to point out that guns are still useful to Americans. We still have predators, and quite a bit of area that is not urbanized. In fact, most of the US is not urbanized, it's just that the majority of Americans live in urban areas. I'm ambivalent about gun ownership, truth be told. It's your right in this country, and that right was written down not long after a violent revolution. At the same time, what the fuck do you need a gun for? Firearms laws and firearms positions aren't necessarily cut and dry here. I'd never own one, due to the pacifism and not needing to shoot mountain lions or deer. But the reasons for gun ownership aren't all redneck bullshit.


And Net is right. Suicide by cop is a legit thing here.

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No, that was Bhode_Sativa.  The Lamanite was "we should all be hunter-gatherers, the herds will migrate where they are needed" and "the BiP is racist".

I remember we were joking about that when we came up with the Latin translation of Black Iron Prison, and then, just as sure as Poe's Law...

Funny enough, there is a small nuance in Latin when it comes to the color black. Niger/nigra/nigrum implies a glossy or shiny kinda black, where ater/atra/atrum has a dull quality. The latter is where the word atrium comes from, apparently, since the walls might be a bit sooty. Or so I've been told.

Eta: both translations would be good. Niger for a metallic thing, ater, for a dreary type of thing. Hmmm... sorry going off in a thought tangent.

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I don't think we've ever had any National Anarchists.  Which is probably just as well, as I'd never stop laughing....

Is that even a thing? If so, how is that possible?

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I think it's more comforting for some people to believe you had to be a vicious troll, than someone with your mentality actually exists out there in real life.

Thats a logical sounding deflection, but as i look through things more and more, i see it everywhere.
if someone pisses off PD's core users somehow, its mysticwick, totse, or the monster-of-the-week troll from last month "obviously" using an alt.

I mean, yeah maybe i have some out there beliefs, but its a pretty regular occurance for me to see "huh, hes a [fascist/racist/non-left libertarian]? Must be [the ghost of trollmas past] using an alt".

It sounds like just a general case of paranoia...

The board is paranoid, as a result of having several persistent trolls who come back over and over again under alts, and a number of people who have vowed to destroy us but have failed to do anything worse than be kinda annoying.

Specifically on the line of "vowed to destroy", im absolutely rolling, picturing someone who looks like mandark sitting in front of a computer just screaming into the wind

"Curse you peeeeeedeeeeeeee".

Anyway, im kinda fucking up a legit discussion about a real political event here, and thats just rude. If any admins are around, Is it possible to thread-split all of the bullshit related to me away so that the ferguson thing can acheive its proper amount of coverage without all of my shit cluttering the thread?

That's the first reasonable thing you've said ITT.

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I think it's more comforting for some people to believe you had to be a vicious troll, than someone with your mentality actually exists out there in real life.

Thats a logical sounding deflection, but as i look through things more and more, i see it everywhere.
if someone pisses off PD's core users somehow, its mysticwick, totse, or the monster-of-the-week troll from last month "obviously" using an alt.

I mean, yeah maybe i have some out there beliefs, but its a pretty regular occurance for me to see "huh, hes a [fascist/racist/non-left libertarian]? Must be [the ghost of trollmas past] using an alt".

It sounds like just a general case of paranoia...

This, if anything, is deflection. One dude who hasn't seen you around before figured you a troll (ask yourself why).

I pointed out that you're notable for being a libertarian since the only times I've seen you discuss anything, it's been in line with what is expected of a libertarian. ie- there's little else that is apparent about you to draw on. You're also LGBT. Never knew that before.

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Von, you racist delusional shit, I hope you die alone, in pain, in the dark. I would say I admire the balls you must have, championing Free Speech by yelling faggot at every opportunity and then turning around as soon as the press gets attacked by the police for daring to report on bad shit that's happening to brown people, but I don't. Fuck you and everything you've ever loved. I hope you get hit by seven buses and shot by the police for resisting arrest.

And i hope you get brutally raped by 50 niggers... :roll:
how about you 1v1 me IRL and not online and see what happen :lulz:
i mean really...all youve ever done to me is internet toughguy ragepost.

As for whoever said im the latest incarnation of...whatever. no, im a "main" account, not a troll alt or whatever.
I see this sort of thing said anytime someone disagrees with the general mentality of the hugbox here -- i think i was accused of being an alt when i called welfare addicts scum, and i think that faggot nihil got called an alt too until he got researched a bit.
what is it with this mentality? Does this shitty forum really have so many enemies that it has to assume anyone who doesnt agree is an infiltrator?
Thats pretty funny...

I sincerely hope that you mature some day.

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I got carded when buying rubber cement. The heck?

In all fairness, how often do you see someone buying rubber cement?  :lulz:

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It changed over time.  It originally started as "Ice Water, or donate $100."

Then, it changed to "Ice Water and donate $10, or donate $100."

Now, it's "Ice Water and donate whatever you want, or bitch about it on Facebook."

 :lulz:

You may be laughing now, but where will you be when EOC is destitute and on the streets?

You'll be laughing at him from inside. That's where you'll be.

Well, it won't be on my account. I did the challenge.

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It changed over time.  It originally started as "Ice Water, or donate $100."

Then, it changed to "Ice Water and donate $10, or donate $100."

Now, it's "Ice Water and donate whatever you want, or bitch about it on Facebook."

 :lulz:

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So, am I right that the original point was that we were supposed to donate money to ALS, and if you didn't, the punishment was a bucket of ice water over the head? Or am I misunderstanding?

And if that was the point, why are so many people dodging it?

The point is to donate regardless, and if donation<$100, then icebucket, to get other people to  donate too.

Also, it's supposed to simulate how ALS feels, which is why ice water was chosen.

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Oh, and a conflict of interest was discovered. The prosecutor on the brown case has FOUR family members on the Ferguson police force. Totally going to be a fair trial.

Here's the source:

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/michael-brown-shooting/prosecutor-michael-brown-case-has-deep-family-ties-police-n183911

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Overseeing possible charges in the shooting death of the unarmed teen falls on St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert P. McCulloch, a Missouri native whose police officer father was killed in the line of duty when McCulloch was 12.

McCulloch's mother, brother, uncle and cousin also worked for the St. Louis police department. Those close family ties to the police Ś and a bellwether decision 14 years ago not to prosecute two cops who shot and killed two suspects in a drug bust Ś have raised doubts about his objectivity in deciding whether Ferguson, Missouri, officer Darren Wilson should be prosecuted for the Aug. 9 killing of Brown, 18.

Pretty clear, but this von person seems like he's the latest incarnation of poptart though not nearly as thorough.

He's a different guy who pops in and out time and again. The most notable thing about him is that he's a libertarian.

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either way, im sure the window repair market in ferguson will be booming in the coming months.

Well, that's certainly the important part of this whole mess.

A good capitalist always tries to see how to make a buck in any situation. Von's just showing that entrepreneurial spirit that made this country great.

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I think it's adorable.  We contrive such fragile systems of thinking and then huff and puff about it. :lulz:

They're not really constructed, so much as they evolve over time. I'm fairly certain there have never been any Jewish carpenters who were able to stop storms, walk on water, and rise from the dead. But I'm also fairly certain at least one Jewish carpenter just kinda said, "Fuck this hammering. I'm gonna preach!" one day. Where that other stuff came in, I don't know. Maybe they did some good drugs. But Christianity didn't come out of thin air, and it certainly wasn't contrived like Scientology or Discordia.

Council of Nicea comes damn close, though.

Point, but that was more of a limiting event than creation of belief, in order to get some sort of consistency. It's a different kind of contriving than what I meant.

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