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The Richard Nixon school of ballet and the arts / Re: Paes' Programs
« on: August 17, 2013, 01:06:58 pm »
Decided to throw up a blog about this and will cross post between this thread and there.
Questions I've been asked about the concept:
The setting will initially be totally lacking. I am imagining the game as a collection of very basic looking sprites randomly traipsing about a white square while I learn how HTML5's canvas works.
The second question is related to the next question.
I am thinking that initially, unless I can flesh out a good way for specific real world beliefs to interact, I will use a simple system of meaningless beliefs which will contain metadata describing their relationships to other beliefs.
Beliefs will be as simple as:
Belief A:
Logically follows: [Belief C, Belief Z, Belief D]; //this will allow beliefs to emerge naturally as well as impact which beliefs a character is more susceptible to.
In conflict with: [Belief F, Belief B, Belief S]; //I am thinking I'll have different levels of conflict to describe how aware a character is of the conflict. Atheism and Christianity are clearly in conflict IRL but are there also conflicts between Christianity and Homophobia which could create internal distress but not cause a person to reject either of these ideas?
Will need to put some thought into what other relationships beliefs have with one another and am hoping to iterate on beliefs to describe real world beliefs and their relationships.
So an NPC will bump into another NPC or into the character and one will say to the other "I believe A" and the other character will respond "I have considered A within the context of my belief system and find that it is(n't) compatible. Further to this, it has strengthened/weakened my belief in B". Maybe they will go on to compare beliefs with logically follow. I think that the mechanic for choosing the belief that is discussed will be based upon the strength of their respective beliefs and common ground they have.
The player character may have the ability to choose a topic of discussion. Still have to consider how that fits into the strategy.
The description of encountering a banana in the world is pretty much spot on, though in the small scale version of this game, encountering evidence for or against beliefs will probably be a randomised event, rather than the result of discovering an object in the game world. I'll have to test how complex the game can get before the concept has to be moved to a more powerful engine.
Questions I've been asked about the concept:
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What kind of setting are you going for? Is this going to be related to real world beliefs or are you going to substitute in meaningless things that convey the same effect?
The setting will initially be totally lacking. I am imagining the game as a collection of very basic looking sprites randomly traipsing about a white square while I learn how HTML5's canvas works.
The second question is related to the next question.
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Very interesting! How will beliefs interact?
is it like, each belief has metadata, and the interaction is on the basis of that metadata?
Like I'm imagining something like (and I'm just making this up as I go)
Belief: "Bananas are high in petroleum."
Type: Nutrition
Topic: Bananas
Strength: 4 (out of 10)
Veracity: False
and then when the NPC bumps into another NPC, she'll say "Bananas are high in petrol!"
and if the other NPC has a Nutrition belief which is higher strength than 4, he will reject it, otherwise he will pick it up at 1 point higher strength.
And then somewhere in the world, there is a banana and if an NPC bumps into it and he has a banana belief which is false, its strength is decreased. if he has a banana belief which is true, its strength gets increased
I am thinking that initially, unless I can flesh out a good way for specific real world beliefs to interact, I will use a simple system of meaningless beliefs which will contain metadata describing their relationships to other beliefs.
Beliefs will be as simple as:
Belief A:
Logically follows: [Belief C, Belief Z, Belief D]; //this will allow beliefs to emerge naturally as well as impact which beliefs a character is more susceptible to.
In conflict with: [Belief F, Belief B, Belief S]; //I am thinking I'll have different levels of conflict to describe how aware a character is of the conflict. Atheism and Christianity are clearly in conflict IRL but are there also conflicts between Christianity and Homophobia which could create internal distress but not cause a person to reject either of these ideas?
Will need to put some thought into what other relationships beliefs have with one another and am hoping to iterate on beliefs to describe real world beliefs and their relationships.
So an NPC will bump into another NPC or into the character and one will say to the other "I believe A" and the other character will respond "I have considered A within the context of my belief system and find that it is(n't) compatible. Further to this, it has strengthened/weakened my belief in B". Maybe they will go on to compare beliefs with logically follow. I think that the mechanic for choosing the belief that is discussed will be based upon the strength of their respective beliefs and common ground they have.
The player character may have the ability to choose a topic of discussion. Still have to consider how that fits into the strategy.
The description of encountering a banana in the world is pretty much spot on, though in the small scale version of this game, encountering evidence for or against beliefs will probably be a randomised event, rather than the result of discovering an object in the game world. I'll have to test how complex the game can get before the concept has to be moved to a more powerful engine.
That's a really really good idea for a game! 