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Or Kill Me / Re: The Holy Rage
« on: Today at 02:30:11 pm »
A piece at a time I'm going to reread the entire thread and attempt to put together a more scholarly and thoughtful reply to what people have posted. This will take me awhile as I'm a slow mo.

I thank you all for your replies they are thoughtful and to the point. Don't think that just because I didn't reply to something immediately I'm being dismissive. I respect everybody who's posted to this thread and thank you for your thoughts, even CNO was clearly quite, quite intelligent.

Nullified is quite correct that I'm slow and deliberate by Nature. I will seek to give proper scholarship to the thought in this next part of the write-up.


Edit to add that in the passion of the rant I may have overstated or Miss stated some things.

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Or Kill Me / Re: The Holy Rage
« on: Today at 02:21:47 pm »
I feel like the OP is coming from a similar place as Three Strengths and Love Your Ugly, but it did rub me the wrong way too. I don't know that I'd go as far with my criticism as some other folks in this thread, but it's definitely just a little off.

I got you this



I love it thank you. I think I'll use it as a Facebook background for a while.

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Or Kill Me / Re: The Holy Rage
« on: Yesterday at 12:49:38 am »
Iíve been following the entire thread. I did not get the impression anyone was trolling you, TWJ.

I'm under the impression that CNO was looking for a reaction. When that reaction didn't materialize CNO went with "well I guess I won't post on your threads if you don't want me to" when I didn't play the tough guy to the taunting.

A lot of people posted quite legitimate concerns. These I will address when I get a chance.

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Or Kill Me / Re: The Holy Rage
« on: March 18, 2019, 11:54:31 pm »
I merely acknowledge that this part of us exists and embrace it.
How do you personally embrace it?  Recognizing your capacity for anger and violence is one thing.  But when have you experienced Holy Rage, and what did you do with it?  Other than beating up an innocent mattress, I mean.

Why on Earth are you giving someone a ration of shit for a bit of rage?

I would think the subforum's name might indicate that this is where we generate & store rage.

That's what I thought

"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room!"

But if you don't care for my comments and criticisms (which in this case, crossed well into flame territory) I will refrain from replying to your posts or threads.  You need only ask.  I like to spar, but it's better if the other side is getting something out of it.

This wouldn't apply, of course, to posts you make in my threads, or which are directed at me.  Armistice, not disarmament.

 :kingmeh:

This reads like "Waah! I didn't get the reaction I wanted for my mediocre trolling so I'm not going to do it anymore... If you don't want me to. You do don't want me to don't you?"

Bruh at no point did I tell you to fuck off. There was a time fairly long ago now before I learned how to comport myself on this forum, or any forum this is my only one, and I used to reply to Howl's work with zany write-ups of no meaningful value. At one point he directly told me to fuck off. I even got my very own unlimited thread. I wasn't even trying to be a troll as I didn't understand what that was at the time, I was just crazy. I took him at his word and stop posting on his threads. Eventually I got my head out of my ass. Now I count him among my friends and treat them with respect.

What I'm getting at is that your stuff doesn't really rate me telling you not to post on my threads. That was pretty weak sauce tbh.

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Or Kill Me / Re: The Holy Rage
« on: March 18, 2019, 05:13:30 pm »
I merely acknowledge that this part of us exists and embrace it.
How do you personally embrace it?  Recognizing your capacity for anger and violence is one thing.  But when have you experienced Holy Rage, and what did you do with it?  Other than beating up an innocent mattress, I mean.

Why on Earth are you giving someone a ration of shit for a bit of rage?

I would think the subforum's name might indicate that this is where we generate & store rage.

That's what I thought

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Literate Chaotic / Re: Gnosis Now!
« on: March 18, 2019, 04:49:20 pm »
Interesting indeed. I'll give them an ear later.

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Or Kill Me / Re: The Holy Rage
« on: March 18, 2019, 04:44:00 pm »
OP came out how it came out. I understand your concerns, but it was a rant not an ethical treatise.

Tell you what I'll do a write-up on what I think the ethics of letting out The Holy Rage are when I get a chance later.

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Or Kill Me / Re: The Holy Rage
« on: March 18, 2019, 01:06:49 am »
I disagree, and you are entitled to your opinion nullified. I am entitled to mine.

 :kingmeh:
"That's just your opinion" is one of the stupidest possible responses you can make to an argument.  If you believe you're in the right, keep fighting.  If you discover you're wrong, admit defeat, and learn something.

 :lulz: :lulz:

 :kingmeh: It actually is a matter of opinion though. And I don't oh a fight to anybody on this forum or in my life.

No, you don't owe anyone a fight, although it might be nice to see some of your "Holy Rage" in action.

But even if it were just a matter of opinion, replying to a well-thought post with "you are entitled to your opinion" is a pathetic cop-out.  Better to clarify your ideas, or even not respond at all.

How exactly would you like to see the holy rage in action on an internet forum?

Alas I am overwhelmed by your trolling! You have defeated me!
 :lulz: :lulz:

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Or Kill Me / Re: The Holy Rage
« on: March 18, 2019, 01:04:53 am »
I'm content to let you think whatever you want of me. I've put it into practice many times. That's all I've got to say on the matter.
:internettoughguy:

 :lulz:

Watch out we've got a stale and overworked meme over here!

I'm so hurt.  :lulz: :lulz:

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Or Kill Me / Re: The Holy Rage
« on: March 17, 2019, 10:42:38 pm »
I both agree and disagree with everyone.  :evil: :fnord:

nullified describes the problem very succinctly, and has found his own solution.

But I think he and Joseph as cross-talking slightly. My silat style trains the old animal forms, so I let the monkey out when alone to train with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu2DkCZiAEA

Let us shift metaphors to one my teacher uses.

nullified is talking about the tiger, who needs no other reason to kill you than you are on his forest trail. It cares not that you are armed or what you are holding or doing and intends to knock your distracted ass down and kill you and consume what it wants of you.

Joseph is talking about the tigress, cornered in the bamboo grove with cubs behind her. She cares not what you are armed with but she will die before letting you get past her to the little ones.

That is why Shiva/Bacchus/Hanuman always has to learn the secrets of the universe from Kali/Eris(Rhea)/Guanyin before he can tackle the chaos of his previous bungling.

This concept of the tiger and The Tigress is very fascinating to me. The concept of having no fear of a weapon is definitely part of what I'm getting at.

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Or Kill Me / Re: The Holy Rage
« on: March 17, 2019, 10:39:11 pm »
I disagree, and you are entitled to your opinion nullified. I am entitled to mine.

 :kingmeh:
"That's just your opinion" is one of the stupidest possible responses you can make to an argument.  If you believe you're in the right, keep fighting.  If you discover you're wrong, admit defeat, and learn something.

 :lulz: :lulz:

 :kingmeh: It actually is a matter of opinion though. And I don't oh a fight to anybody on this forum or in my life.

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Or Kill Me / Re: The Holy Rage
« on: March 17, 2019, 10:35:31 pm »
Normally I would remain silent on this but your questions deserve some form of answer.

Rather than getting into my intensely personal business on a public forum, or risking sounding like a shitlord internet tough guy, I will attempt to once again illustrate what I'm talking about by describing the events portrayed in the article that sparked this little rant in the first place.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gunman-advanced-zealand-mosque-1-man-ran-him-092301154.html

Your response is just a deflection.  You didn't answer my question at all.  I was asking about you personally, specifically because I wanted to know if this was just armchair philosophy, or if you had actually put any of this into practice.  Because if you haven't, I can safely dismiss your ideas without further consideration.

Your example was nothing more than you projecting your preconceived ideas onto a situation about which only a preliminary report was available.  I didn't see any evidence of your "Holy Rage" in that account.

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or risking sounding like a shitlord internet tough guy
You're comng across that way, anyway.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Perhaps you should just have an argument with yourself then. I don't owe you a response. I'm content to let you think whatever you want of me. I've put it into practice many times. That's all I've got to say on the matter.

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Or Kill Me / Re: The Holy Rage
« on: March 17, 2019, 09:30:06 pm »
I disagree, and you are entitled to your opinion nullified. I am entitled to mine.

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Reality Safari: Gurdjieff
« on: March 17, 2019, 09:08:05 pm »
 :lulz: :lulz:

I wondered when Telarus would jump on this thread. Very neat stuff!

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Or Kill Me / Re: The Holy Rage
« on: March 17, 2019, 08:51:59 pm »
I'm not sure what the mass-shooters do with their inner beasts, but they sure as hell didn't love them, for they wouldn't voluntarily put them in a potentially lethal survival situation otherwise. No ape ever died for their nation, that shit is humane.

I begin to think that you Get It Con-troll.

A mass shooter, the suicide bomber, the garden-variety racist, all these operate out of a fundamental fear. They are fundamentally cowards. The Holy Rage does not know fear. It may get you killed but that does not matter in that moment. It is action without concern for your chances.

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