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Principia Discussion / Re: Discordia and Philosophy
« on: July 12, 2011, 02:59:50 am »
Dear Human,
Welcome to the club.

 :lulz: That's good.

Keep your mouth shut indeed.
Good luck if the other humans find out you got a promotion.
At least history shows that they'll probably make up a really cool story about why they HAD to kill you.
Then there's the even better stories of why they need to kill FOR you after you're long gone.

Just for my reference is there a philosophy or religion that reflects self deification without all the pseudo-rebellion against such Diety as may already be there waiting for you?

I mean without the "Become/Kill God" propaganda that Satanic/Luciferian thought has been running with Forever.  Anything that considers deification of man to be what God might want.

Literate Chaotic / Re: Greeks Myffed: Promethian Office Politics
« on: July 11, 2011, 06:18:02 am »

Really cool! 8)

Or Kill Me / Re: For someone you don't know
« on: July 11, 2011, 05:51:29 am »
  :lol:  :mittens:

You can't fight the so-called logic of the irrational, Luna.  These folks don't think of anything but their rhetoric.  And the faster, higher, further they can take it, the happier they are.  I keep waiting and waiting for this hyperbolic overdrive of the far right to reverse course...and it's not happening. 

There's no stopping it. It won't happen.(inside scoop)  Many of these folks feel that they have a moral imperative to stop the slaughter or whatever.  I've tried to use ethical arguments on some of them and there's no use when they play the G-O-D card.  Some few have even argued to me that going back to coat hangers and abusive alcoholic med-school drop-outs is morally preferable because it would "be a deterrent." 

The simple truth is that a sense of responsibility and the education that they ALSO fight could prevent many times more unwanted children than abortion. 

They don't want a solution folks.  They wanna be "right" and do what the man they get their Opium from says.

Apple Talk / Re: Things That Make You LOVE This Century.
« on: July 11, 2011, 04:43:45 am »
 :aaa:  :x

G-d Dammit! the world's running into new fetish territory.  Next it'll be dirty doorknobs, public doorknobism, knob vs knob doubleups... man we're doomed.  On the bright side lock picking may just become a form of foreplay, so at least it would be easy to sell supplies!

The option to irreversibly turn everybody into a robot will be deployed gradually over the coming time.
Gradually? Fuk Dat!  It's what people WANT! Robots pay no taxes.

Principia Discussion / Re: Discordia and Philosophy
« on: July 11, 2011, 01:52:14 am »
I'm pretty weak on philosophy and religion both in the sense that I tend not to remember author names or Chapter/ verse references.

I am sometimes good at synergy of general knowledge tho.

If you want further evidence of a biological basis for dualism (not that I'm right) I'd say look at humor.  The laugh is a biological reflex that alters the mental state.  It's usually triggered by contradiction in the humor.  Contradiction as an idea requires dualistic perception, but you don't need to think about or even know that to see funny stuff and laugh.  It's similar with tragedy and crying.  These reflexes can be so important that suppressing them may cause disorders in a person.  If you don't have these reflexes folks would likely think you inhuman, maybe dangerous, if they found out. 

Principia Discussion / Re: Discordia and Philosophy
« on: July 10, 2011, 06:35:02 am »
Greetings Sano.

I sometimes think of Discordia as a sort of enlightened, light-hearted utilitarianism.  I mean that in the sense that it posits rules like the whole Chaos, Confusion, Discord, Bureaucracy, Aftermath cycle or the Sacred Chao when thought of as a duality.  It then very amusingly demonstrates the influence of suggestion on worldview with the whole "law of 5" thingy.  The more you look for the fives and their numerological mutations the more you find and the better you get at it.  An alien used to doing math in like base 16 or something instead of our usual base 10 might not get the joke at all, but could definitely still find 5s now and again.

I think the ultimate effect of it on me personally was to show me that even duality is a "Law of 5" type illusion.  It's just one we happen to need to understand the world and survive.  Alive and hungry vs dead and unappetizing is an important distinction if you are looking at a tiger lying on it's side.  Is it safe or hazardous?  Because of this need and the mental/biological wiring we have, subtle and or clever dualities can Almost always trick people.  When you get tricked and don't realize it that's stupid.  When other people get tricked and you find it funny that's normal.  When you get tricked and still find the humor (and usually lesson) in it that's enlightened.  When you start to trick other people to teach them and yourself... well THAT'S just awesome good fun!

Propaganda Depository / Re: Audioautoerotica
« on: July 10, 2011, 02:55:33 am »
Here's another one.  

I, Us, Them:Patience

Edited to redirect link to  You may need to refresh the screen if Kiwi6 lags and says it's buffering for too long.

Apple Talk / Re: New People Should Probably Read This.
« on: July 08, 2011, 02:03:44 pm »
I think he meant to say "diesel". Diesel is a kind of fuel:

Quote from: Cramulus
I sure don't know the truck I drive. What I think I know, is that diesel is a kind of fuel.

See? Now it makes sense.
I see and am amazed!

Apple Talk / Re: New People Should Probably Read This.
« on: July 08, 2011, 08:38:29 am »

I sure don't know The Truth. What I think I know, I doubt. That doubt is a kind of fuel.

see Chao Te Ching Chapters 38, 51, 67

Didn't know about this document.  found it. will read. thanks.

Also, what do you mean by "doubt is a kind of fuel?"

just to say, I liked this post too, and it's something I wish I had read a while ago.

Apple Talk / Re: New People Should Probably Read This.
« on: July 07, 2011, 09:00:50 pm »

So, to recap:  If you canít prove your case, but your opponent can, you should probably at least try to look at it from another point of view.  If your post is just intentional gibberish with no idea embedded, do it in private and for Godís sake wash your hands afterward.

What? And here I thought that's what the  :mittens: are for...  Um, sorry.  I'll clean 'em.  It'll be fine.  :oops:

Reality Disclaimer: The following is an act of fiction. All statements expressed are not real and neither are the words used to make them.  They express views and opinions of no kind.  No persons groups or entities portrayed are real either. 

Sudden quote: If Mathematics is the key to the universe, art is learning to pick the lock, and Funny is kicking the door in and failing!
A fiction continued...

"May you never lose the stars"- A traditional travel blessing among wizards.

"(he/she/it) has lost the stars"- a statement that there is no hope left for the subject, also a reference to anything struggling madly to no benefit.  Sometimes an insult implying incompetence.

  As I said, I am an outsider to this world.  I chose the word wizard from your English to describe myself because it is close enough as a descriptor. I will use the word for my kind as well.  Beings like my kind travel the planes and worlds with great frequency and are explorers and observers by nature and conditioning.  I believe I am not the first of my kind here but have no proof of this as you have lost much to your various "histories."  In truth I have no idea where here is. This may be a surprise to some, but the people of this world have been isolated and have become deceived. The form of what you call human is astoundingly common among the worlds.  Even immaterial beings, spirits and gods if you must, often prefer this form for it's sheer utility.  I was born to it just like you all.  I am also quite mortal and one day will die just like you as well. 

  In truth we are extremely similar but my kind are optimized for experiences that are perceptually and culturally denied to the majority of the people here.  I will tell you plainly, "All is change, nothing is impossible."  This is a basic truth among my kind.  Survival in a series of unknown environments requires such flexible perception and wizards train toward it.  I was a prodigy.  I am extraordinarily young compared to most functional wizards.  I dared where they would not and now have found myself marooned here on your world.  Worse, I have discovered that your world is toxic in ways that would terrify my ex-colleagues and that have limited my ability to work "magic".  The energies I must channel to do so may be over-generously described as sparse and tainted.  There have been no worlds known to us in such a condition.

  Though similar in form and perhaps of some common origin wizards are different in natural capability and skill.  We can see vaguely into what you call the ultraviolet light spectrum at all times and also easily commune with the immaterial beings in an area.  The sorcerers here use some very long and unreliable mental preparations to call on their deities and spirits that wizards are able to dispense with.  This is partially from the training and partially an inherent gift.  Indeed the first lesson for a student is often training to turn it off at will. The "license to depart" or banishment in your traditional summoning books is amusing in that it requires effort on par with ripping the wires out of one of your accursed "phones" and burying it in the back yard only to dig up, clean, and reassemble it when you want to use it again. The immaterial beings here have fooled you into unduly fearing them as gods or foolishly disregarding them as "non-existent."  The stories you have told yourselves tell me that they and their servants among you have run this ontological racket on you flawlessly. I guess even a god's gotta eat.

  I have been here for some time now and found some fascinating things.  Wizards are familiar with the energy form you call electricity. They shun it as able to (for lack of a better word) "de-wizard" a wizard that tries to channel it.  Being here has taught me that this is the result of ignorance and fear, though also true.  The fools try to use it as they use everything else and discard it as useless and dangerous when it fails to work the way they think it should.  You all showed me the light!  It's brilliant.  I understand the processes of how you make it and it's slave devices only poorly, but admire many of the material workarounds it has provided for the terrible shortage of magical energies here.  You do everything with it! You scry, commune, cook, clean, attack, defend, research, amuse, punish, illuminate, and do hosts of other things with it.  For such a recent development you've really just run with it in ways that would shame and terrify my old teachers.  I just love using the devices and taking them apart!

  Your "money" is also something known to us.  All cultures use a medium of exchange.  What is different here is the profound saturation of your minds it has accomplished.  When I saw that first dollar I knew it was a trick!  How could people trade stylish paper slips for everything?  I laughed so hard as I watched this happen over and over and even saw fights over it!  Clearly this was cheap sorcery at work, but EVERYONE was participating!  I immediately realized that survival here would be much better if I played along and found ways to acquire it when needed.  Even your spirits seem to really love it, their slaves ask for it so frequently. 



It took me some time to understand that you have merged your currency and your electrical signals.  The method by which this works is utterly fascinating to me.  You trust promises that only provably exist in the computer boxes that seem to run everything.  Frequently your own record exists in this fashion as well.  Your lives and livelihoods have become dependent on ephemeral representations of promises made by the various architects of your systems.  Out of necessity, but with great enjoyment, I learned to operate some of these computers you all seem to use.  I broke many at first, but they were already owned by, and on loan from, the spirit known as Great Garbage. 

I must explain the spirits of your world and how they function before I can explain Great Garbage.  You have MANY incorporeal beings around you all the time.  Like most beings they need to sustain themselves.  In most worlds and their planes this is a simple affair.  The energies and thought forms they need must be readily available.  Without them they are simply not present.  In my time here I have discovered that your spirits need not function in the usual ways.  Many have become predatory and operate by being fed by their servants or are attached to a concept that will never exhaust itself.  Great Garbage operates in both fashions.  It was also the first of the local spirits to manifest to me fully after my arrival.

(Frantic running, heavy breathing, incoherent shouting)
*Image of a cluttered alley with dumpster in the foreground.  Dumpster is sideways with back to right wall, Root City Waste Authority logo on side. Night time scene, and cool light*
*image of Wizard wearing soaked, semi-burnt rags running around background corner and into alley*

Wizard Inner Voice: By the stars! All I wanted was a meal!  Gotta get away...

(shouting gets closer, running slows)
*Wizard looks at dumpster*
*close up- emote Desperate resignation*

WIV: That looks like a spot!

*Wizard moves to foreground, opens lid of dumpster, Close up- emote total disgust*
(Semi coherent background shout "where the fuck did he go!?)

WIV: This will have to do.  If my luck is good there may be something edible in here too.

(sounds of clutter moving)
*Wizard struggles into dumpster and hides, buried in trash*
*Lid appears to slam closed on it's own*
(latching sound)
(Close foot falls)
*Gang banger 1 then 2 appear around corner of alley.  The are dressed in dark street clothes with hoods and bear tattoos and scarlet cloth tied in various places. Their eyes remain in shadow during the scene*

*close-up of both looking down alley. GB2 is shorter and seems dim and confused*
*GB1 looks over at GB2*

GB1:  I know this motherfucker came down this way! Shit.  I'm gonna find this hobo bitch and take my time on him.  Think he can get away and not pay onna tab at my guy's place of biz.  Fuck!

*GB1 turns head toward alley and image pops out to double bust height*

GB1: Gonna check further down.  You check around here in case he comes back this way.  You got it fucktard?

*GB1 exits across image to right in front of GB2*
(rapid diminishing foot falls)
*wide shot of alley.  GB2 knocks over several cans and boxes. Finds dumpster closed and latched.  Kicks dumpster several times and shouts*
(appropriate sound effects)

GB2: You bedda not be innere bitch!  (BOOM BOOM BOOM)
*layer image of Wizard holding ears closed and concentrating placidly inside of dumpster*

*GB2 struggles with latch,  but cannot figure it out*

GB2: Ugh! Fuck this shit, shit's stankin'!

*GB2 reaches into pocket and <closeup> lights a cigarette*

*GB2 stops looking around and smokes cigarette for a moment*
(cell phone rings)
*GB2 pulls phone out and puts phone to head*

Cell voice of GB1: Hey fuck this shit!  I just got a call on my guy's prime shipment that just came in.  Let's go get whipped, man!  We can find this motherfucker later. Meet me at the Fine Fizzle and hurry the fuck up!

Gb2: Hell yeah!  I'll be there inna...(click)
*GB2 takes a moment to realize he's been hung up on*

GB2: Mother fucker... 

*Gb2 exits left in background out of the alley*

*Alley shot zooms in slowly toward foreground side of dumpster as sound effect changes to reflect the inside of dumpster, Overlay image of wizard crouched in the foreground and pile of assorted garbage in near background "inside" dumpster*

(Audio adds echo effects to voices and occasional junk moving)

WIV:  (amused) This place is terrible.  Ugh. I do not know what that smell is, but I think it unhealthy.  I must find one of those light-sticks of theirs to see with.  Oh...   I am not alone.

(shuffling and some snapping, possibly quiet simple tone music)
*Close up of trash as garbage moves around slightly and a face of trash is lit in  dim cool light with UV paint adding anthropomorphic touches.*

(sound note: actual voice nonsense will be subtly under the "Inner Voice" sound to reflect actual speech being done by wizard character. Similarly the trash or any other spirit will be punctuated with appropriate sound effects under the voice.  For trash it would be crumplings, sound of spillage, or whatever.  These will be added later when I get this to audio production and not reflected here)

WIV: (Curious, unworried) Who are you?

Trashy:  (friendly)  Heyhey.  what the fuck? welcome to my place!  It 's not like everyday I get to have a motherfucking guest over, much less just what my boss wanted to see..  You!  Call me Trashy!

*junk face close up with arranged grin*

WIV: What!? Do you know me?

*Junk grin still on eyes narrow*

TRA: Hell yes !  We know everything!  We know where ALL the bodies are buried.  Nothing gets lost without us knowing it.  And unless my shit deceives me YOU motherfucker are lost!

*Close up wizard face, Eyebrow up in confusion*

WIV: I did not understand half of that, but I am definitely lost.  Listen.. Trashing(?) I need to get going, and I have nothing more than thanks to offer for your hospitality, but THANK YOU very much.

*Wizard tries to stand*
(Sound effects of banging and rattling, appropriate garbage scuffling)

WIV: (annoyed) Please open the door Trashing.

TRA: (Sick deep-lung laughter)  It ain't up to me anymore, stop it dickhead.  Settle in! The latch is on the outside and we're gonna just sit tight and see my boss in the morning. 

*Face of Trashy looking up still smiling but less so*

TRA: You hungry?

(Noises stop, settling trash as wiz sits)
*Wizard settles into garbage trying to put on a game face while starving*

WIV: Do you have food?

*BIG Trash grin*

TRA: Hell yeah! On the house.  Check that paper bag over there man! There's a whole sandwich in there still in the wrapper!  Have at it baby! 

*Wizard inspects bag and finds pristine sandwich wrapped in unnecessary amounts of paper*
(sounds of paper rustling and occasional chewing during following dialogue)

WIV: Thank you Trashing!  You have helped me twice now and I will remember it.  (chewing)  Who is the boss you want to bring me to?

*close up of Trashy changing expression in time to dialog*

TRA: It's TrashYY, and my boss is Great Garbage, baby!  You're new here so let me just tell you there's no betta boss in this whole fucked up world.  Garbage knows everything..   knew when you got here and sent word out to find you.  Guess I just got lucky.  Maybe I'll get me a promotion!  Maybe a bigger dumpster, like one of them rail cars.  I always wanted to travel!

WIV: You live in this container?

*momentary close up of wizard's eyes looking cool and reserved*

TRA: You could say that.  I don't get much reason to head out to the landfill and see the boss, so I mostly stay here and do collection.  In a few hours a truck will be by and it'll bring us to the boss, you just sit tight.

WIV: Sit tight to what?  I do not understand.  What is a truck?

TRA: Shit you really are lost!  Don't know what a truck is.. (Sick chuckle)  You'll find out!  Just settle in and take a nap or something.  It'll all shake out in the morning.

*Bust wide shot of wizard and Trashy, wizard settling in*
(pronounced settling of garbage sounds)

WIV: It is warmer in here.  Very well Trashy, I will wait.  Thank you for your help. 

TRA: Heh heh he-hack!  Don't mention it.. eh you got a name?

*Close up of wizard's eyes looking tired and far away*

WIV: I hope you will understand that I am not ready to trade names with you, TRASHY.  Some things are invaluable.  Slumber well.


Apple Talk / Re: And Then, Suu, There's The Women
« on: July 06, 2011, 05:27:15 am »
Once upon a time a man found a bottle and when he opened it out popped a djinn.  The man's eyes went wide and he asked, "Do i get my 3 wishes?"  "Uh, no." Said the djinn.  "I'm just a bottle djinn, not a lamp djinn, so you only get one wish!"  The man thought for a moment and asked "Can I get a bridge built from California to Hawaii? I like to visit my brother, but hate to fly." The djinn was shocked.  "That's a lot of work asshole!  It would take me years!  Pick something else.. anything.  The man said, "Well Ok.  I'd like to truly understand women!"  The djinn slumped and asked "Will that be a one lane bridge or a two lane bridge?"

To me it seems like any other building project.  All the work in the world can't fix a relationship if the raw material isn't there or is bad.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: Icarus
« on: July 05, 2011, 11:02:30 pm »
Maybe paranoid but..

My (limited) understanding is that "anons" are not centrally organized and might be considered more of a ladder conspiracy or similar. 

If there is no knowable organizer then it becomes possible to use the rhetoric and format to simply stir up people to do what you suggest.

There's serious money on the table here for someone that's ready to short the fall (if it happens). 

It would also likely allow for more "Anti-terror" legislation, and only the less skillful participants are likely to take the fall.

Perhaps this is an attempt by the con to use anon.

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