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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Unlimited "Israel, What the fuck" thread
« on: July 18, 2014, 09:49:39 am »
Also, this:

But how did Israel come to occupy Gaza in the first place? Well, in the Six Day War in June, 1967 Israel conquered Gaza (along with the West Bank, the Golan Heights and the Sinai).

Israel shot first in the Six Day War, and, as Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin later explained, it was a “war of choice” and there was "no proof" that Arab countries were going to attack them.

So what justification did Israel give at the time for shooting first? They said that in fact they hadn’t started the war, because Egypt had already started it by blockading an Israeli port several weeks before.

By Israel’s standards, Hamas has been entitled (since the start of the blockade in 2007) to invade Israel and then occupy it for forty years.

Or it could've ended up the same way, Japan surrendured to the US to avoid any kind of Soviet occupation.

The US still had the preponderance of force in the region, I'm not sure the Soviets would've pressed the issue, especially with China to the south looking like much more promising territory to forge gains in (I suspect the Soviets had no idea how much wealth Japan had looted, or that most of it would avoid being paid back in reparations to the country's Japan occupied).

Aneristic Illusions / Re: Unlimited "Israel, What the fuck" thread
« on: July 18, 2014, 09:36:46 am »
This entire episode is dumb as fuck, even by the low standards of the Israeli/Palestine conflict.

Israel - ask for dumb as fuck pre-guarantees in regards to talks with Hamas
Hamas - reject dumb as fuck pre-talk guarantees, despite being obviously a trap
Israel - freak the fuck out over three murders, even though the likelihood that Hamas is guilty is very low
Hamas - stick the boot in about the three murders, making them look even more guilty than they actually are
Israel - some dumbfucks kidnap and kill an Arab Israeli in retaliation for the murders.  Israel escalates searchs and detention of Palestinians.
Hamas - blindly fires rockets into Israeli territory.  All fail to hurt anyone.
Israel - launches massive airstrikes in retaliation.  Deploys illegal weaponry designed to kill civilians, mulls turning water off/denying food to Gaza.  Attacks UN buildings and critical infrastructure instead of Hamas strongholds.
Hamas - keeps firing missiles, despite the fact they're clearly not working.
Israel - lets retards run around acting like Nazis on social media ("kill 1000 Palestinians for every Israeli", "killing Arabs gives me an orgasm" etc) in order to whip up the bloodthirsty dumbfucks into more murders.  Deploy ground forces into Gaza, to compound dumbfuckery.

This is the kind of dumbfuckery that makes me all nostalgic, reminding me as it does of the Bush years.

aaaaaand...not to double post but it now appears RT is trying to imply the narrative of the Ukr. military trying to shoot down putin...


Yes, I heard that theory as well.  It's certainly the most plausible version of "Ukraine did it" which I have seen so far.

Still, I'm not very sold on it.  As has been widely reported, the Donetsk Republic's Twitter feed deleted a reference/picture to the kind of weapon system which could shoot down a plane, and denied having access to that kind of weaponry.

Obviously, no-one told them what happens once it is on the internet...

RonPaul420s theory is interesting, but I suspect a bit too convoluted and intelligent for our intelligence services. While smart people, they do generally like vicious, simple games where you do not pass go, do not collect $200 and a death squad burns your family alive.  Convoluted is typically, if anything, a Russian (or occasionally British) approach to intelligence,

Which I can respect.  But they're meant to yell "boom headshot!" while doing so.  Traditions must be maintained.

This is what happens when you give advanced weaponry to people who cannot tell a commercial airliner from a military plane.

On the other hand, I'm eagerly awaiting the conspiracy theories which suggest the CIA stole the first missing Malaysian Airlines flight in order to plant this flight over Ukraine to implicate Russia to, uh, something.  New World Order-y.

I especially like it because at this point the pathetic Ukrainian Army, against all expectations, is actually winning.  Taking territory and cities from the seperatists.  So now would be the perfect time for a false-flag attack because, uh, reasons.

Oh shit.

Wait, that was at 10,000 feet.  That's far too high to hit without radar guidance.  Russia...I didn't think you were stupid enough to give the sepratists more than MANPADs.

I think directing slurs of those kinds against particular members (especially in a vindictive and repeatable fashion) does constitute harassment, and so is already covered by our rules.

However, there are also other options for dealing with such a person, so while it would eventually constitute a bannable offence, it probably wouldn't do so in the first instance, and of course the wishes of the target of the harassment would have to be taken into account (such as whether they are happy to put them on ignore - or are uncapable of doing so due to being an admin etc).

Language based rule-sets are tricky and complex.  I don't like tricky and complex, because it leads to rule-lawyering and increases the possibility of making an incorrect call.  Behaviour based rulesets are far easier, and as far as I can see, this sort of rule would be redundant based on the interpretation of harassment above.

would also like it to be noted at this point he was in fact stalked for a period of about two years by a member of this site and EB&G, which constituted a number of harassing personal communications. 

I've changed the name settings, so you should be able to edit them again.

Depends how gratuitous and frequently it occurs, as well as the nature of the imagery. 

Literate Chaotic / Re: Utopia
« on: July 16, 2014, 02:06:54 pm »
Well, episode one was kinda lame.  Suppose they needed it, to remind people and give context to the newbies.  but I can't say I approve

There used to be a sticky with them, in the Meta-Forum.

I can't find it now, though....

Every time shit starts between Hamas and Israel, my Facebook turns into a slew of warmongers. Then I come in, all cool with the history facts, and get called a commie libtard.

Cool story bro. That's 6 people on my friends list I don't need, anyway.

Next time, argue that Palestinians need US arms to combat Israeli aggression.

When the inevitable shitstorm starts, point out that this is in fact US policy towards Al-Qaeda in Syria and the Assad government.

Unstated but obvious:


Literate Chaotic / Re: Utopia
« on: July 15, 2014, 10:33:50 am »
I strongly suspect Channel 4 doesn't mind.  It's not like they've never courted controversy for views before or anything.

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