Paid to smoke Pot

[the last yatto]

Also kids will use less pot when its legal (well for the rest of us that is)
Unless there's still a large black market left intact
and switch to other drugs since store clerks usually check ID

[Iason Ouabache]

Also kids will use less pot when its legal (well for the rest of us that is)
Unless there's still a large black market left intact
and switch to other drugs since store clerks usually check ID

Right, because ID checks are working so well at keeping high schoolers from obtaining alchohol.

[AFK]

Kids really don't need to go to the store themselves to try to buy their alcohol anymore.  It is super easy to network and find a friend who is legal age or a friend who has an older brother, or a parent who has no problem buying alcohol for minors.  Same thing happens for tobacco and I can't see any reason why marijuana wouldn't follow suit.

With medical marijuana, here in Maine it is possible for kids of a certain age to get medical marijuana.  And unfortunately, the law was written with very weak language so that the kid doesn't have to get a note from their PCP, they can pretty much get it from ANY doctor.  I fear this is going to lead to some doctor shopping, to find the ones who either don't ask a lot of questions, or simply, look the other way and hand out the prescription.  And that's why a site like the one linked in the OP really pisses me off.  If it was truly about medical marijuana, the critiques should center around the medical benefits of the marijuana.  These critiques read more like a review of a fine wine or food.  I think there are some noble people behind the medical marijuana movement.  But I think there is also a group of shysters like this moron who really isn't in it for the "medical" bit, but to do an end-round to skirt the marijuana laws. 

[Adios]

http://denverpotcritic.com/

That link wasn't in the OP but if you go to it you can see where he provides recipes for some bad stuff.

[BabylonHoruv]

The fact that it is being smoked means it has many of the same negative health efects as tobacco.

Inhaling smoke does bad things.  Some of the bad things done by tobacco smoke are due to ingredients specific to tobacco, some are going to happen whether the smoke that is being inhaled is tobacco, marijuana, wood smoke, burning bibles, or anything else.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

The fact that it is being smoked means it has many of the same negative health efects as tobacco.

Inhaling smoke does bad things.  Some of the bad things done by tobacco smoke are due to ingredients specific to tobacco, some are going to happen whether the smoke that is being inhaled is tobacco, marijuana, wood smoke, burning bibles, or anything else.

Correct.... smoking anything isn't 'good' for you. Smoking pot is far less harmful than Tobacco, but its still not a super healthy hobby. Using vaporizers or canna butter or cooking with ground marijuana as a herb are far more healthy ways of enjoying it.

Of course, we humans tend to do lots and lots of things which aren't particularly good for us.

[the last yatto]

Smoke isn't oxygen so by nature its not good for you, but I'm having trouble thinking its bad.
That's like saying drinking causes liver damage without anything about the ammount consumed.

Right, because ID checks are working so well at keeping high schoolers from obtaining alchohol.

Well guess it depends on enviroment really id say for some it might be the same or easier
But I can only use my own personal experience, wine was easy to "borrow"
Beer took a bit of effort. But say vodka was rare.

There also are parents who would rather have them under their roof doing these things then out in the streets.
Instead of trying to encourage them to lead a chemical free life.

But its really an arguement that can't really be proved as it depends on a lot of factors.

[Lies]

Now, the anti-pot-legalization crowd will tell you the stats say that pot users aren't all that responsible, either.  As in a drain on society since they eat but don't produce, and the hallicunations can make them do stuff they wouldn't normally do, like letting kids drown (the original premise of the OP) and running them over while driving.  

Substance abuse is substance abuse, imo, as I'm coming to find out.  The relative safety of the actual substance tends to be in the hand of the user, though certainly some are definitely more fatal than others.

You rang?  Actually, I would've pointed out that more and more people are becoming poly-drug users.  While there are certainly people who smoke pot but don't drink and people who drink but don't smoke pot, I think if you could Venn-diagram if, you'd find the overlap to be huge.  

Also, it's interesting this came up.  This morning I was hanging out with a couple of colleagues in the field and we pretty much have resigned ourselves to the fact that pot will be legal sometime in the not to distant future.  Maybe the next 5 to 10 years.  The ball game is going to change completely.  The messaging to kids will have to be drastically different.  And we all agreed, at least here in Maine, that this should be taxed from here until tomorrow.

RWHN,
-card carrying member of anti-pot legalization crowd AND tax them until they bleed conglomerate.  

Card-carrying member of the pro-pot legalization crowd AND tax them until they bleed conglomerate. 

Just so you know. Tax's don't bother me none, if it's contributing back to society, then you can't say stoners contribute nothing to society.

[ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞]

Kids really don't need to go to the store themselves to try to buy their alcohol anymore.  It is super easy to network and find a friend who is legal age or a friend who has an older brother, or a parent who has no problem buying alcohol for minors.  Same thing happens for tobacco and I can't see any reason why marijuana wouldn't follow suit.

It's also super easy to find a friend who has a gun, let's ban guns for everyone too.

And if you're caught selling guns to minors as a minor, let's permanently take away their ability to get financial aid, effectively ending lower class kids ability to go to college.

[ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞]

The fact that it is being smoked means it has many of the same negative health efects as tobacco.

Inhaling smoke does bad things.  Some of the bad things done by tobacco smoke are due to ingredients specific to tobacco, some are going to happen whether the smoke that is being inhaled is tobacco, marijuana, wood smoke, burning bibles, or anything else.

I don't suppose you're familiar with Donald Tashkin's study?

There also have been a surprising number of studies that corroborate an anti-cancer effect of cannabinoids:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17952648     http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11269508    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12723496

[BabylonHoruv]

The fact that it is being smoked means it has many of the same negative health efects as tobacco.

Inhaling smoke does bad things.  Some of the bad things done by tobacco smoke are due to ingredients specific to tobacco, some are going to happen whether the smoke that is being inhaled is tobacco, marijuana, wood smoke, burning bibles, or anything else.

I don't suppose you're familiar with Donald Tashkin's study?

There also have been a surprising number of studies that corroborate an anti-cancer effect of cannabinoids:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17952648     http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11269508    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12723496

I'm aware of it yes.  Smoke is not automatically a carcinogen.  Carbon monoxide is still not good for you, and smoke in your lungs (along with tar, which pot has TONS of) is generally bad.  I'm not saying nobody should smoke it, it's easier and tastier than vaporization or eating it and the effect is decidedly different than eating it.  Just be aware that you are hurting your body by doing so.

[Telarus]

"Of the investigators who have pierced even for a moment the magic veil of its glamour ecstatic many have been
appalled, many disappointed. Few have dared to crush in arms of steel this burning daughter of the Jinn; to ravish
from her poisonous scarlet lips the kisses of death, to force her serpent-smooth and serpent-stinging body down to
some infernal torture-couch, and strike her into spasm as the lightning splits the cloud-wrack, only to read in her
infinite sea-green eyes the awful price of her virginity -- black madness."

The Herb Dangerous - Aleister Crowley

[BabylonHoruv]

"Of the investigators who have pierced even for a moment the magic veil of its glamour ecstatic many have been
appalled, many disappointed. Few have dared to crush in arms of steel this burning daughter of the Jinn; to ravish
from her poisonous scarlet lips the kisses of death, to force her serpent-smooth and serpent-stinging body down to
some infernal torture-couch, and strike her into spasm as the lightning splits the cloud-wrack, only to read in her
infinite sea-green eyes the awful price of her virginity -- black madness."

The Herb Dangerous - Aleister Crowley

Sounds more like a description of belladonna than weed

[Lies]

"Of the investigators who have pierced even for a moment the magic veil of its glamour ecstatic many have been
appalled, many disappointed. Few have dared to crush in arms of steel this burning daughter of the Jinn; to ravish
from her poisonous scarlet lips the kisses of death, to force her serpent-smooth and serpent-stinging body down to
some infernal torture-couch, and strike her into spasm as the lightning splits the cloud-wrack, only to read in her
infinite sea-green eyes the awful price of her virginity -- black madness."

The Herb Dangerous - Aleister Crowley

Sounds more like a description of belladonna than weed

Or datura.

[Triple Zero]

20+ pages, easy

It's almost like Free Will doesn't exist!


I bet Libertarians would not have this problem.