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Started by LHX, June 13, 2006, 05:31:36 PM

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Triple Zero

Quote from: LMNO on April 06, 2007, 01:20:39 PM
Quote from: saint aini on April 05, 2007, 11:30:53 PM
The barstool experiment consists of five parts.

1. Some dope or dopes who pretend they know what matter is.
2. They postulate hypotheses about the nature of matter in a metaphysical manner.
3. Somehow a barstool works itself into the storyline (e.g. a character mentions it)
4. Someone else or by some method, the barstool is used to strike the dope or dopes from #1.
5. The story ends with the moral that one should not worry so much about the nature of matter, the world, social constructs, etc. so much as they are there and for one's use or harm.

Anything else involving barstools or experiments should be in Literate Chaotic or anywhere but this thread.

It's kind of like writing a sonnet or a haiku.  You have a form to follow.


The trick is to make #2 be as convincing as possible, to lure the reader into the tricksy metaphysical land of hypothesis and metaphor.  So when the barstool comes, it's as unexpected for the reader as it is for the poor sap getting clobbered.

that's the fun bit  :lol:

i often tell the barstool experiment to hippie-types, and when i get to point #2 i can usually make some sort of semi-convincing metaphysical hippy crap argument and they all go nodding with their head "uhuh yeah .. man .. nothing's real man .." like they really "dig it", and oooohhh that makes it so much fun when i get to point #4  :evil:

"and then he took the barstool bashed and bashed them to a pulp for being a bunch of hippies"

good times
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Wolfpoet

Quote from: Your Audience on April 06, 2007, 01:14:22 AM
What's a Vargyr?

Vargr, no fucking Y!

It's an old Norse word which has two meanings Wolf and Outlaw, it's a title used to refer to a Norse Pagan who follows Nordic practices but rejects conventional Nordic morality and ethics, every religion has a similar thing.

Also some RPG has arace called Vargr who are basicly werewolves and there is a nother RPG called Vampire: Dark Ages where they use the word to describe a viking vamp.

It's not so much that we fear the Wolf that howls outside, we fear the Wolf that howls within our soul.

Paladin, Iman, Rabbi and Fa Shih of the Erisian revival.

There are 3 sides to any conflict, winners, losers and arms dealers. Eris does a damn good deal at competitive prices.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Wolfpoet on April 16, 2007, 10:51:09 PM
Quote from: Your Audience on April 06, 2007, 01:14:22 AM
What's a Vargyr?

Vargr, no fucking Y!

It's an old Norse word which has two meanings Wolf and Outlaw, it's a title used to refer to a Norse Pagan who follows Nordic practices but rejects conventional Nordic morality and ethics, every religion has a similar thing.

Also some RPG has arace called Vargr who are basicly werewolves and there is a nother RPG called Vampire: Dark Ages where they use the word to describe a viking vamp.



Which practices do you follow?

TGRR,
Hopes you don't hang thralls.  They're hard to come by, these days.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Wolfpoet

I follow (or at least try to) the 9 virtues and try to follow the examples set by the old myths and deity-stories. I follow a more grass-roots version of the religion.

I just don't buy into the modern, ritualised asatru crap. strikes me as wicca with horned helmets. Some ego-centric high prioest type telling me how I should or should not practice this ritual or that one? Fuck that shit.
It's not so much that we fear the Wolf that howls outside, we fear the Wolf that howls within our soul.

Paladin, Iman, Rabbi and Fa Shih of the Erisian revival.

There are 3 sides to any conflict, winners, losers and arms dealers. Eris does a damn good deal at competitive prices.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Wolfpoet on April 16, 2007, 11:03:23 PM
I follow (or at least try to) the 9 virtues and try to follow the examples set by the old myths and deity-stories.

Sounds kinda bloody, if I remember my Norse mythology correctly.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Wolfpoet

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 16, 2007, 11:06:36 PM
Quote from: Wolfpoet on April 16, 2007, 11:03:23 PM
I follow (or at least try to) the 9 virtues and try to follow the examples set by the old myths and deity-stories.

Sounds kinda bloody, if I remember my Norse mythology correctly.

The underlining message is enlightenment through self-sacrifice, standing up for yourself and accepting fate. Goes against the whole compensation culture going on these days.
It's not so much that we fear the Wolf that howls outside, we fear the Wolf that howls within our soul.

Paladin, Iman, Rabbi and Fa Shih of the Erisian revival.

There are 3 sides to any conflict, winners, losers and arms dealers. Eris does a damn good deal at competitive prices.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Wolfpoet on April 16, 2007, 11:14:58 PM
standing up for yourself and accepting fate.

huh?

Quote from: Wolfpoet on April 16, 2007, 11:14:58 PM
Goes against the whole compensation culture going on these days.

Sounds more like it goes against itself.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Wolfpoet

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 16, 2007, 11:23:08 PM

Sounds more like it goes against itself.

Fate can't be changed, your kinda fucked whatever you do. The point is to stand up, face fate witha  smile and say "fuck you bitch, what's next?"

No point fighting the inevitable, but you can face it with a smile and stand up against it. You'll be fucked over every time, the point is to keep standing up.
It's not so much that we fear the Wolf that howls outside, we fear the Wolf that howls within our soul.

Paladin, Iman, Rabbi and Fa Shih of the Erisian revival.

There are 3 sides to any conflict, winners, losers and arms dealers. Eris does a damn good deal at competitive prices.

P3nT4gR4m


I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Wolfpoet on April 16, 2007, 11:30:35 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 16, 2007, 11:23:08 PM

Sounds more like it goes against itself.

Fate can't be changed, your kinda fucked whatever you do. The point is to stand up, face fate witha  smile and say "fuck you bitch, what's next?"

No point fighting the inevitable, but you can face it with a smile and stand up against it. You'll be fucked over every time, the point is to keep standing up.

That sounds kinda retarded.  If I'm going to get fucked every time, I may as well sit on the couch and eat cheetos.

Fuck, I may as well use the system to get you to pay for it.

But don't get mad.  It was fated to happen.  :lulz:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: SillyCybin on April 16, 2007, 11:43:46 PM
:ninja: I smell a fkin pagan :hosrie:

Careful, you.  He's got a wolf howling in his soul...he'll royally fucking your shit 6 ways from Sunday.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

P3nT4gR4m

fate = how your life looks backwards

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 16, 2007, 11:45:06 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on April 16, 2007, 11:43:46 PM
:ninja: I smell a fkin pagan :hosrie:

Careful, you.  He's got a wolf howling in his soul...he'll royally fucking your shit 6 ways from Sunday.

Barstool + wolf = wolf + stool-shaped-dents

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

The Good Reverend Roger

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

tyrannosaurus vex

funny, 'enlightenment by self-sacrifice and accepting fate (for the masses)' is the title of the book Dick Cheney's going to release as soon as he leaves office.
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