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Started by NapaDiscordian, September 21, 2006, 05:03:37 AM

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Have you read the Illuminatus! Trilogy?

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Total Members Voted: 17

Voting closed: October 14, 2006, 05:03:37 AM

Cramulus

I am thoroughly jealous of hunter/gatherer societies. I read somewhere that the average hunter/gatherer does less than ten hours of work a week! Srsly, industrial revolution FTL.

If only there was some way to spend my day killing deer and weaving baskets and still get indoor plumbing, heat, and internets.

P3nT4gR4m

We need a new lifestyle for the 21st century - Hunter/gatherer/webmaster

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

hunter s.durden

This space for rent.

Cain

Quote from: Professor Cramulus on March 19, 2007, 02:48:48 PM
I am thoroughly jealous of hunter/gatherer societies. I read somewhere that the average hunter/gatherer does less than ten hours of work a week! Srsly, industrial revolution FTL.

If only there was some way to spend my day killing deer and weaving baskets and still get indoor plumbing, heat, and internets.

Actually, I'd be willing to bet that was 10 hours of work a day.  Hunting is not easy, even for experts.  Oh, and you die by the time you're 35.

As it is, I work 4 hours a week.

P3nT4gR4m


I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Cain

Yeah, but I'd be working 6 months a year if I wanted to live at this level and not be in debt.  Not bad, but not quite as good.

Anyway, yeah, hunting.  Its seriously hard work.  Odd times, hours of waiting followed by brief periods of very strenuous activity, often little pay off in terms of protein gain, often some form of danger involved.  Oh and whatever you eat may just be infected with god knows how many diseases.

Cramulus

Yeah I don't think it would be easy.
But the commute would be much better.

Sounds difficult... but super fun. I mean

"How was your day at work honey?"
"It was okay"

vs

"How was your day at work honey?"
"I PUT A FUCKING SPEAR THROUGH A RHINO'S GODDAMN EYE AND WAS CELEBRATED AS A HERO."
"Great! Now let's get back to singing songs and weaving rugs. You know, culture!"

DJRubberducky

Well, there's also

"How was your day at work, sweetie?"
"Meh, could've been worse."

versus

"That two-timing scum, why isn't he home yet?!"
"Sorry, ma'am, your husband tried to put a spear through a rhinoceros's eye but got trampled to death in the process."
- DJRubberducky
Quote from: LMNODJ's post is sort of like those pills you drop into a glass of water, and they expand into a dinosaur, or something.

Black sheep are still sheep.

LMNO

And:

"How was work?"

"I didn't catch anything.  We're all going to starve to death."

Cain

And "I caught this deer, it was lagging behind a bit"

Two days later "I think I know why that deer was behind"

A week later "___________", on account of the dead not being talkative.

LMNO

Or:


"How was work?"

"It was ok, but check out the size of my tapeworms!"

AFK

Or:

"How was work?"

"What happened to your arm?"

"Oh, it's okay.  I submitted a claim to God, I'm sure I'll get hunter/gatherers comp."

Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Alchemist

#147
That would depend. If there was contributory negligence on the part of the hunter then bod might be in it's rights to reduce the claim!

Perhaps, instead of divinely regrowing the hunter's severed appendage, the plaintiff would only receive a stump in compensation!

Your Audience

Mankind does instinctively co-operate; an individual generally does try and co-operate with the community at large. That's why state funded peer-preasuer and manufacture of consent are so succesfull.

Government and state simply take advantage of our co-operative instincts.

The idea that Government evens out the odds against the bullies doesn't sit right with me. It does but only for it's own citizens. The current style of Governemnt still maintains it's power through violence, it's only transfered outside of the official borders. While the wealthy decadence insures a fuzzy warm 'peace' on the inside, the state still relies heavily on violence outside to maintain the 'state'. That just aint right.

Anarchy is such a missused and throw away term these days. I don't see it so much as a political ideology as a necessary part of your soul. We may retreat into conformity and placid agreement more often than not but the spirit of anarchy is still a usefull and productive thing to feel. Trying to formalise like some an all inclusive self-sustaining political ideoligy was always a bad idea I think, and mainly misses the point.

Inconclusive I know, just a thought.
You turn me on.

Cain

I think its somewhat naive to think a government will not engage in some form of reformist activity except within its own borders.  However, the reasons for it will almost always be to pacify a politically motivated population, instead of actual morality.  Its for the same reasons that governments initiate minimum wage laws and certain labour laws, without ever looking from the outside and wondering if the problem is systemic.  Or realizing and not caring, in certain cases.

The Scandinavian and central European countries are particularly guilty of the above, but since its about the worst of their crimes, it can be ignored, for the moment.  Bigger fish to fry and all that.