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Started by Cain, October 27, 2006, 03:18:47 PM

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hooplala

#45
March 19, 2008, 02:38:52 PM
 :mittens:
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)" — Walt Whitman

LMNO

#46
March 19, 2008, 02:46:15 PM
So, if they're going to be sheep, they might as well be Black Sheep?

P3nT4gR4m

#47
March 19, 2008, 04:18:50 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 19, 2008, 02:46:15 PM
So, if they're going to be sheep, they might as well be Black Sheep?

More like, if they're going to be sheep, it's not really the shepherds fault.

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Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

#48
March 19, 2008, 04:52:11 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on March 19, 2008, 04:18:50 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 19, 2008, 02:46:15 PM
So, if they're going to be sheep, they might as well be Black Sheep?

More like, if they're going to be sheep, it's not really the shepherds fault.

:mittens:
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

LMNO

#49
March 19, 2008, 04:53:30 PM
MEME BOMB!

Also, :potd:

Cain

#50
March 19, 2008, 04:55:47 PM
So if the shepherd is trying to help people stop being sheep, and ends up only creating sheep with edgier catchphrases and better camoflage, then he or she is blameless?








































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LMNO

#51
March 19, 2008, 04:57:44 PM
"You Say To People "Throw Off Your Chains" And They Make New Chains For Themselves?"

"Seems to be a major human activity, yes."

Cain

#52
March 19, 2008, 04:59:53 PM
I too can quote tangenitally related sentences.

However, I like to do my own thinking.

LMNO

#53
March 19, 2008, 05:32:50 PM
Heh.


I done been Zanged.

Cain

#54
March 19, 2008, 05:35:20 PM
Well I've decided since no-one else actually wants to engage my points but instead respond to what they wish I wrote, I will ignore them and instead be a snarky fuckwit until the point someone raises a point I bought up or this thread dies.

LMNO

#55
March 19, 2008, 05:40:59 PM
Well, as far as I know, RAW himself continually said that he didn't want to be a guru.  What more could he have done?

Hell, Crowley did his best to be reviled so no one would hold him up as a guru*, and still people created a cult around him.













*I'm guessing he also did it because he thought it was funny.

Cain

#56
March 19, 2008, 05:44:21 PM
That was incidental to my whole point.

Dweeb.

A.N. Other

#57
March 19, 2008, 05:59:56 PM
Well, I do have to agree with most of what you say, Cain. New Discordians do focus on RAW more then they should--I know I did--and seem to make him the only thing they know about Discordia. I don't know if this is because they read up on him and his works, then never think to expand their thoughts (which is something I think RAW would disapprove of), or, they think because there is a lot more of him published. Meaning, of course, they think because he's published, he's the one who knows the most. If only they'd look at the homemade stuff, like the Book of Eris and Apocrypha Discordia, they'd start thinking.

The only thing I disagree with you, Cain, is that I enjoy RAW's writing style. 'Tis all.
"Wow, for an asshole, everyone loves you, honey." -My wife

hooplala

#58
March 19, 2008, 06:02:08 PM
First, I do like his writing style.  Schrodinger's Cat is the first work by him I read, and fell in love.  It was like Vonnegut but even snarkier, and mysterious.

Second, if you don't want to have to think when reading fiction that's fine, and there are many books out there which will fulfill that desire.  Illuminatus is hard to read, but I don't think its because it was intentionally supposed to be difficult.  The first 30 pages or so are all over the place, but it gets a rhythm going after that, and keeps up with it.  And, despite popular opinion there isn't really any Joycean text in Illuminatus.

Third, RAW and Shea wrote a lot about Yog Sothoth in Illuminatus, but very little about Cthulhu, which seems to be most written about by Discordians.

Fourth, RAW didn't write the book by himself.

Fifth, there are going to be sheep and idiots in any movement, no matter what the point of the movement is, why should Discordianism be any different?
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)" — Walt Whitman

Cain

#59
March 19, 2008, 06:08:33 PM
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