LDD Sermon 7

[B_M_W]

I feel I have been consistent in my agreement to participate in The Network, Media Division.

Granted, no one's been leaping up to help me out [looks at ECH and LHX], but all the same, I'm here.

Thats true, I'm sorry.  No-one else has looked into that, however, bar Neutrangrot.  Even Syn has not got back to me.

I just started a new blog. Calling it Pseudo-Buddhaodiscordo-pastafarian, and posting my reverse brainwashing rant right now. Is that a start?

[LMNO]

I took it personally because every damn time I post in here or PD Discussion you jump down my fucking throat flaunting your "nihilism" in an attempt to piss me off.  Why the fuck shouldn't I just treat you like I would any other third bit troll and bounce your ass off the screen sides? 

I think its a communication issue or maybe one of understanding. I am not trying to rub 'my nihilism' in anyones face. For one thing I'm not really a nihilist, I'm not a discordian either but I do have certain points of view pertaining to both of these. Sometimes I feel something you've said sounds a bit negative or like you're getting really down about it and I try to crack some flippant joke to maybe help you get a little more upbeat about it.

I've realised that this not somethig  I should be doing with you. You hold your beliefs very dear and see any wisecracking as an attack. This is commendable - I can totally respect that - to an extent I wish there were more like you cos if you don't roll over and join the machine you'll be able to make a big diff even on your own. There's not much point in apologising any more but I do ask you to keep an open mind - I'm not what you seem to think I am. I really am on your side.

Can we bury this hatchett or would you prefer I just fuck off? It's your forum more than mine - as a sign of respect I'll leave if I'm pissing you off too much.

If you fuck off, the terrorists have won.




As far as I'm concerned, conflicting veiwpoints are the lifeblood of this forum.

[Cain]

I took it personally because every damn time I post in here or PD Discussion you jump down my fucking throat flaunting your "nihilism" in an attempt to piss me off.  Why the fuck shouldn't I just treat you like I would any other third bit troll and bounce your ass off the screen sides? 

I think its a communication issue or maybe one of understanding. I am not trying to rub 'my nihilism' in anyones face. For one thing I'm not really a nihilist, I'm not a discordian either but I do have certain points of view pertaining to both of these. Sometimes I feel something you've said sounds a bit negative or like you're getting really down about it and I try to crack some flippant joke to maybe help you get a little more upbeat about it.

I've realised that this not somethig  I should be doing with you. You hold your beliefs very dear and see any wisecracking as an attack. This is commendable - I can totally respect that - to an extent I wish there were more like you cos if you don't roll over and join the machine you'll be able to make a big diff even on your own. There's not much point in apologising any more but I do ask you to keep an open mind - I'm not what you seem to think I am. I really am on your side.

Can we bury this hatchett or would you prefer I just fuck off? It's your forum more than mine - as a sign of respect I'll leave if I'm pissing you off too much.

OK, thanks.  I think I understand better now.  As I see it, this subforum and PD.com are for the more intense debates and the rest are for more lighthearted stuff.  My personal view, but its kind of been an unwritten rule here for a while.  I take my yuks where I can, but sometimes it just isn't the place for it and I do need to be serious.  I probably should have been more clear on that.

Consider the hatchet buried.  There's no need for you to go, I have liked the writings of yours I have seen so far (like I said, I rarely comment unless I can say something constructive, but they were good) and would like to see more.

[Cain]

I feel I have been consistent in my agreement to participate in The Network, Media Division.

Granted, no one's been leaping up to help me out [looks at ECH and LHX], but all the same, I'm here.

Thats true, I'm sorry.  No-one else has looked into that, however, bar Neutrangrot.  Even Syn has not got back to me.

I just started a new blog. Calling it Pseudo-Buddhaodiscordo-pastafarian, and posting my reverse brainwashing rant right now. Is that a start?

Sounds good to me.  Are you going to put more stuff on, and links to other Discordian sites?  I've found bloggers than interlink and post comments on other blogs tend to get read more as well, if you are looking to promote it.

[LMNO]

Is the BIP domain a free site?



I need to learn HTML.

[Cain]

Yeah, I believe so.  But forums are good for communication, and bad for expressing initial ideas.  I think, anyway.  Unless its been pre-scripted, like with Plato.

[LMNO]

Troofiness.


I guess I gotta figure out how to build a website.


Blogs and forums just don't work for this.

[Cain]

There are free hosting sites that make things easier.  Look at the Purple Monkey Mafia's site for a good example.

[LMNO]

Hmmmm.

Looks like the First Chirch of Last Exit Before Toll might have a Web presence soon...

[P3nT4gR4m]

I took it personally because every damn time I post in here or PD Discussion you jump down my fucking throat flaunting your "nihilism" in an attempt to piss me off.  Why the fuck shouldn't I just treat you like I would any other third bit troll and bounce your ass off the screen sides? 

I think its a communication issue or maybe one of understanding. I am not trying to rub 'my nihilism' in anyones face. For one thing I'm not really a nihilist, I'm not a discordian either but I do have certain points of view pertaining to both of these. Sometimes I feel something you've said sounds a bit negative or like you're getting really down about it and I try to crack some flippant joke to maybe help you get a little more upbeat about it.

I've realised that this not somethig  I should be doing with you. You hold your beliefs very dear and see any wisecracking as an attack. This is commendable - I can totally respect that - to an extent I wish there were more like you cos if you don't roll over and join the machine you'll be able to make a big diff even on your own. There's not much point in apologising any more but I do ask you to keep an open mind - I'm not what you seem to think I am. I really am on your side.

Can we bury this hatchett or would you prefer I just fuck off? It's your forum more than mine - as a sign of respect I'll leave if I'm pissing you off too much.

OK, thanks.  I think I understand better now.  As I see it, this subforum and PD.com are for the more intense debates and the rest are for more lighthearted stuff.  My personal view, but its kind of been an unwritten rule here for a while.  I take my yuks where I can, but sometimes it just isn't the place for it and I do need to be serious.  I probably should have been more clear on that.

Consider the hatchet buried.  There's no need for you to go, I have liked the writings of yours I have seen so far (like I said, I rarely comment unless I can say something constructive, but they were good) and would like to see more.

The way I see my main use here (as I do everywhere else) is to provide 2 functions:

1) ideas generation

I'm full of these and they seem to keep coming although the flow is, at times, sporadic. Everything I've ever posted here should be considered public domain. If there's even a single line of one of my posts that you think is useful to you then use it - there is no need to ask permission to quote, plagiarise, edit or just completely steal a post and stick it on your own website and claim it as your own - I don't post stuff anywhere for glory or shit like that I do it because I want it to be read and, with a bit of luck, open someones eyes. As far as I'm concerned if you get something I've said then that makes it yours as much as mine. So hopefully I'll just keep posting my bollix and some of it will end up on someone elses website. I'm not very good with websites so I'm unlikely to actually set one up myself but maybe I can help with the odd bit of content.

2) Devils advocate

This is where I normally come to blows with people but I think it's worth doing regardless and the reason I feel this way is because I think that a lot of the time people will get trapped in a negative train of thought and this really serves no purpose but to keep the prozac factories in business. I point out the opposite view in the hope that it'll provide a bit of balance and, failing that, help to crystallise the notion in the head of the person who had it, by making them think about their position in more depth. I've illustrated this in two successive rants I've authored, one taking a pessimistic view and the other optimistic. The truth lies somewhere in between. That's my philosophy and tbh it's the nearest thing to a real live belief that I actually have - "The truth lies somewhere in between"

As regards any other school of thought that I might seem to adhere to, please assume in all instances that I have a completely different take on it to the accepted norm. eg I'm a nihilist who believes that there really is a meaning of life. Either way if you ever find me contradicting one of your posts please try to understand that I probably agree with you but want to make you look at it from another angle because if you understand that then I've got my point across. I honestly do have a point - I'm not just arguing for the hell of it. Once again I'm sorry for being a complete cunt but sometimes it's hard to avoid. I walk a very fine line.

[Cain]

Those seem to be valid positions to take.  However, the attacks did look fairly directed at me, as opposed to questioning my methodology.  By now, you of course know you wont change my mind on some things (as is true of everyone, eventually), but I am always up for constructive criticism as to how I am attempting my goals.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Those seem to be valid positions to take.  However, the attacks did look fairly directed at me, as opposed to questioning my methodology.

I'm not perfect by a long shot I make mistakes (probably more than the average punter) I really do regret the shit I said to you earlier in this thread, as soon as an agument becomes personal I tend to just go straight for the jugular, instinctively. If it's any consolation that 'rebel without a clue' diatribe describes my own wretched capitulation pretty accurately. The best way to attack someone is often to project your own self loathing on them.

[Cain]

I had thought that, funnily enough.  Amateur psychology ftw.  Fortunately, I know that crowd only too well and never saw the appeal in them.

You should probably go to this place if you want to be truely diabolical and get it out of your system (as the last 2 years have basically been Discordian infighting and its dull and tired by now) http://www.whofailedtoday.com/bbs/viewforum.php?id=3  Unregged posting, be as much of an evil bastard as you want.

[P3nT4gR4m]

I had thought that, funnily enough.  Amateur psychology ftw.  Fortunately, I know that crowd only too well and never saw the appeal in them.

You should probably go to this place if you want to be truely diabolical and get it out of your system (as the last 2 years have basically been Discordian infighting and its dull and tired by now) http://www.whofailedtoday.com/bbs/viewforum.php?id=3  Unregged posting, be as much of an evil bastard as you want.

Some of the best friendships I have ever been involved in, both IRL and online, have started with a fight, the kind of fight where both sides and up losing roughly the same ammount of blood and it's hard to pick a winner. There's a kinda mutual respect formed in those kinda battles and eventually, when the hate runs out, that respect seems to grow into something kinda pink and fluffy. There's a good few people in this forum I respect and maybe, when I'm all assholed out, they'll start to think of me as a friend.

(I think I'm nearly assholed out but then again my capacity for assholiness quite often surprises me - fingers crossed)

[LMNO]

I just got this mental picture of you with a pink and fluffy asshole.








It was weird.