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Started by Bhode_Sativa, November 27, 2006, 07:00:31 AM

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P3nT4gR4m

#30
December 24, 2006, 11:48:16 PM
Quote from: hunter s.durden on December 24, 2006, 11:20:28 PM
If the universe is all there is though, there is no snapshot. It would be different if there was an outside looking in, but the universe is it.
I personally believe in free will. I also personally believe that because one day we won't exist, in a way we never exist. It's kind of an effect before cause thing. We won't exist, therefore we don't exist. Sounds weird, but it makes sense to me.

I don't really believe in being wrong or right (sorta). Everything is opinion. Reality is subjective to me. What is (to me) is, what isn't (to me) isn't.
I'm right until i'm wrong.

4th, 5th and 6th dimesions are sorta outside our whole spacetime universe the way I understand it. Apparently our universe looks beige from outside.

Also right and wrong don't even figure in the trully subjective experience. All just is.

Just sayin

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faust

#31
December 24, 2006, 11:52:14 PM
lso right and wrong don't even figure in the trully subjective experience. All just is.

right and wrong are all that matter, as a human we will never know our experiences from an abstractions point of view. If everything was taken away and all that was left was your mind and your memories, what you do with them/think of them over a great scale of time determines if you will or will not suffer much, thats why regrets are such bad things.

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#32
December 24, 2006, 11:55:18 PM
Dig deeper

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

hunter s.durden

#33
December 25, 2006, 12:02:39 AM
According to certain theorist, (i.e. I believe String Theory) our universe has 10 dimensions. There's no way to explain them, they can only be explained mathematically. I'd like to think there are alternate universes, but I'm not altering my life for it.

In a subjective world (which most people live in, but refuse to admit), whats right to you is right, wrong to you wrong. Everything is opinion.

I doubt the universe looks beige. Many people think of nothingness as a black void, sometimes a white void. I don't really think we can envision nothing, we've never seen it. Monkey brains too small to envision it.

As long as you can live with yourself for your actions, they will always be "right".
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faust

#34
December 25, 2006, 12:11:28 AM
Dig deeper
I did, its logic cyclical, if thats what you meant by thats all there is then that would be the case.

All we have is our experiences
And our opinions, without them there is the void/fullness of simply being.
and then you are still sitting on your toddy on the couch on what has just turned Christmas day,
regardless of how much navel gazing or "mental masturbation" is done, all that remains is me.
I will live and then die and and what happens next if anything, no one can tell me. So if there is nothing, I intend to live my life by my own morals(often changing with the info I receive), and If I make mistakes I will learn from them, but to go against what I know to be true(even if it is wrong) is a terrible thing, from either the point of view that all I have is this life, or the one that it is preparation for something more.

As long as you can live with yourself for your actions, they will always be "right".
you better be sure of that, because for example a killer, if he ever changes his bubbled view, the regret could crush him.

hunter s.durden

#35
December 25, 2006, 12:17:56 AM
If the killer changes his bubbled view, and killing is wrong, his regret is his not being able to live with himself. He ceases to be right, because that is his choice.
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faust

#36
December 25, 2006, 12:21:29 AM
yes it is, the point is he will suffer, and sometimes its really hard to stop realization(suddenly finding the others view correct in this instance), choice or not.

hunter s.durden

#37
December 25, 2006, 12:26:47 AM
Are you suggesting I live my life in constant fear that one day my worldview will be thrown on it's head and I should do my best not to do anything so I don't regret it later.
Better stop using the internets. What if you realize the Mennonites are right about technology? Should I not eat another hamburger. Might realize it's murder one day.
I'll play the odds.
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faust

#38
December 25, 2006, 12:31:09 AM
not at all, I'm not suggesting you do anything, just pointing out the dangers of bubbled views, if it works dont fix it.
I dont live in fear but I think I have fucked the any views of consequence in my mind, and its become more of an intuitive method of choosing what to do.

The Good Reverend Roger

#39
December 25, 2006, 02:16:48 AM
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 24, 2006, 11:07:26 PM
Nothing matters might be true, but I still care.  Only sometimes though. 

Yeah, you care so much you want 90% of the population to die, to meet your ethical standards.

:lol:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Bhode_Sativa

#40
December 25, 2006, 02:39:38 AM Last Edit: December 25, 2006, 02:54:22 AM by Bhode_Sativa
What I care about it "success" for my species as it relates to the planet.  I think we just have different ideas of what constitutes success.  And they're not my ethical standards, they're my practical standards.  And until you offer something more reasonable to believe your opinions are disregarded as childish and insignificant.  Get over your power trip.  Take a good dump.  Do whatever you gotta do to purge your hate so we can move on to something productive.

The Good Reverend Roger

#41
December 25, 2006, 02:47:24 AM
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 25, 2006, 02:39:38 AM
What I care about it "success" for my species as it relates to the planet.  I think we just have different ideas of what constitutes success.  And they're not my ethical standards, they're my practical standards.  So eat me, gimpy.

And, to you, "success" means the death of billions, so we can "move back into our regular niche".

This IS our regular niche, you fucking idiot.

And I know you have no ethical standards.  You've already proven that.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Bhode_Sativa

#42
December 25, 2006, 03:00:57 AM
This is not our regular niche, because it's doomed to failure.  I'm advocating an alternative that is empirically successful at keeping our species alive.  All you're advocating is an illogical twisting of my words in an attempt to prove yourself somehow superior because of juvenile territory issues.  Get Over It!

The Good Reverend Roger

#43
December 25, 2006, 03:08:25 AM
Quote from: Bhode_Sativa on December 25, 2006, 03:00:57 AM
This is not our regular niche, because it's doomed to failure.  I'm advocating an alternative that is empirically successful at keeping our species alive.  All you're advocating is an illogical twisting of my words in an attempt to prove yourself somehow superior because of juvenile territory issues.  Get Over It!

We are a tool using species.  This is our regular niche.  Deal with it.

Beats wanting billions to die, so that the rest can live in squalor.

And no, I intend to continue hounding you.  Sorry. :lol:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Bhode_Sativa

#44
December 25, 2006, 03:14:56 AM
I'm comforted in the idea that you will die before me.
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