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Started by LHX, December 08, 2006, 04:02:26 PM

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LHX

How does it relate to TDN/BIP?

We would prolly figure out what the moon is all about if we blew it up (by process of elimination).

lol


But seriously, how do you approach things that may have more symbolic significance than actual significance?

(Or the other way around)
neat hell

LMNO

The moon as a symbol/archetype is a powerful one.

Unless you realize the power of the archetype/symbol, it's just another bar in your cell.


That's something a lot of Wiccans don't realize.

LHX

Quote from: LMNO on December 08, 2006, 04:03:48 PM
Unless you realize the power of the archetype/symbol, it's just another bar in your cell.

everybody can proceed to print that out and stick on their fridge or make a poster for their bedroom wall
neat hell

AFK

That should go in the meme thread, LMNO.

Here's a question.  Do you think the Moon would be as powerful if we had multiples like Jupiter, Saturn, etc, ?
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

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Quote from: LMNO on December 08, 2006, 04:03:48 PM
The moon as a symbol/archetype is a powerful one.

Unless you realize the power of the archetype/symbol, it's just another bar in your cell.


That's something a lot of Wiccans don't realize.

Train of thought derailed by this post: The moon is an archetype. The wiccans, in turning hokey paganism into a religion, bade the wiccans worship it. YHVH is an archetype. The x-ists, in turning hokey jewish mysticism into a religion, bade the x-ists worship it. I'm seeing a pattern here. Bar the metaphysical exits by teaching the believers to stand in awe, rather than walk out through, the gates.

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LMNO

YHVH is an archetype?

LHX

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 08, 2006, 04:04:52 PM
yeah, I think any affect the moon may have on a person, personality or otherwise, is largely in their head. And I would submit it is because they've bought into a myth of lunacy or some such thing. I mean, it's the same thing as thinking a 4-leaf clover is lucky or that a black cat crossing your path is going to royally fuck up your day.

from the other thread
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LHX

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 08, 2006, 04:09:54 PM
That should go in the meme thread, LMNO.

Here's a question. Do you think the Moon would be as powerful if we had multiples like Jupiter, Saturn, etc, ?

not a chance

most likely - everything that is attribted to the moon would be delegated among the members of 'the moon system'
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Quote from: LMNO on December 08, 2006, 04:12:40 PM
YHVH is an archetype?

I'd say he was by the time the founders were finished with him.

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"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

AFK

I think, maybe, the moon is just that ultimate, universal escapist symbol.

Everyone in the world sees the moon.  

Everyone in the world has bad days.

New Englanders probably don't dream about running away into the desert.

Arizonans probably don't dream about running away into the foggy forest.

Texans probably don't dream about getting lost in a winter wonderland.

But, the moon can, potentially, be the escape for everyone.  

Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

LMNO

Quote from: SillyCybin on December 08, 2006, 04:17:50 PM
Quote from: LMNO on December 08, 2006, 04:12:40 PM
YHVH is an archetype?

I'd say he was by the time the founders were finished with him.


The Old Testament has a founder?

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Quote from: LMNO on December 08, 2006, 04:21:44 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on December 08, 2006, 04:17:50 PM
Quote from: LMNO on December 08, 2006, 04:12:40 PM
YHVH is an archetype?

I'd say he was by the time the founders were finished with him.


The Old Testament has a founder?

The founders of x-ianity I meant. Isn't god just a big scary patriarchal archetype nowaday?

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"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

LMNO

Xtianity has a founder?

P3nT4gR4m

Now you're just being obstinate :argh!:

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

LMNO

Nope.  I just think you're simplifying things waaaaay too much.

I can see God as an archetype of the Father Figure, but I feel that, where most people (save lunar-worshippers) will see the Moon as obviously symbolic, they won't see YHVH as symbolic, in any form.


Some will, but they'll mostly be non-xtian scholars.