Rev Roger's Least Fit Monkey Theory:

[Idem]

Nothing's thriving. We've kinda seen to that. Bacteria, viri, cockroaches maybe.

Fuck, we've made alot of them STRONGER with medicine.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Nothing's thriving. We've kinda seen to that. Bacteria, viri, cockroaches maybe.

Fuck, we've made alot of them STRONGER with medicine.

Hell yeah - penecillin won the battle but, ultimately, might well turn out to have lost us the war.

[Suu]

Nothing's thriving. We've kinda seen to that. Bacteria, viri, cockroaches maybe.

Fuck, we've made alot of them STRONGER with medicine.

Only bacteria can be considered to be medicinally resistant as you can't kill a virus. Viruses reconfigure themselves to attack our cells and reproduce, they aren't a living thing and no matter what we have to let them take their course. Unfortunately there is only so much our immune system, orange juice, and chicken soup can do. Tuberculosis resurfaced from HELL recently from what I understand, and killed a few thousand people in NYC alone.

[Thurnez Isa]

reminds me of andrew Nikiforuk's book "The Fourth Horseman" which rides as one of my favorite books of all time
ill try to find an online version of it

[Suu]

reminds me of andrew Nikiforuk's book "The Fourth Horseman" which rides as one of my favorite books of all time
ill try to find an online version of it

No pun intended there, right?  :-D

[AFK]

Hey! I do the puns around here.  Go find your own shtick! 

[Thurnez Isa]

I could not find it for the life of me...

http://www.amazon.com/Fourth-Horseman-History-Epidemics-Scourges/dp/0871317214/sr=8-2/qid=1169570841/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/103-9814726-4261442?ie=UTF8&s=books

this is the book im talking about
if anyone finds an online copy in your interweb travels send me the link
its actually an interesting read even if you don't agree with his final conclusions

When the Fourth Horseman rides again, creating civilization in unforseeable ways, modern medicine will take its traditional seat in the last row of history's bleechers. Docters have never arrested or changed the course of an epidemic and likely never will. Although their drugs and vaccines may create an illusion of competence, pestilence will continue to remind the masses that the youngest science is still wearing a diaper, and probably a dirty one of that. Physicians will never make a difference during plagues until they give up the germ theory and view epidemics as crude disturbances in human culture. However hard we try, we can't beat the superorganism, bribe the horseman, or ignore the immuntable presence of pestilence in history

Future plagues will come and go, leaving stigmas as distinct as leprosy and sociel markers as potent as AIDS. Built on the energy of germs, civilizations ultimately rise and fall on their rhythm.

The great medical ecologist Rene Dubos never tired of reminding disbelievers of the unpredictable ways in which microbes an the Fourth Horseman set the boundaries of our history. Dubos didn't buy the modern idea that humans control their own "biological and cultural distiny" and called our relatively plague-free existance a "mirage". He knew life without Pestilence was a grand illusion... no matter how pervasive the illusion, the Fourth Horseman always takes his quarter.

[Sir Squid Diddimus]

i still think the octopuss is pretty damn cool
being able to squeeze outta tiny holes and take down sharks an all.

[Jasper]

The Con is way ahead of you, I'm afraid SC.

A friend of mine recently had the epiphany that a species' success is based on how good they are at being fat and lazy.  Take crocodiles, sharks, etc.  All very reserved with actual effort.

[P3nT4gR4m]

The Con is way ahead of you, I'm afraid SC.

A friend of mine recently had the epiphany that a species' success is based on how good they are at being fat and lazy.  Take crocodiles, sharks, etc.  All very reserved with actual effort.

I used to keep snakes. You never seen anything so efficient. My burmese could prolly have gone 6months with no food without suffering too much. (she never had to in case you were wondering)

[Suu]

Burmese Pythons are gorgeous! Woooo...

Ever since that Diamondback Rattler almost killed me when I was 5, I've liked snakes.  :-D

[Jasper]

I'd never keep anything that had no concept of society in my house.  No reptiles please.  They bring me no joy.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Burmese Pythons are gorgeous! Woooo...

Ever since that Diamondback Rattler almost killed me when I was 5, I've liked snakes.  :-D

Burmese have a bad rep but I never encountered one that showed any aggression, other than when you first wake them up. Boas on the other hand are bastards, I got bit on the face by an 8 footer - fucker missed my eye by about half an inch.

For a real lulz try a retic, most of those fuckers are totally psychotic and they get real big too.

[Triple Zero]

However, the savannah is a dangerous place, so our ancestors had to learn to stand up (to see over the grass to watch for prey and predators), and grow brains (to learn to use rocks to supplement our pitiful natural weaponry).  And it was all downhill from there.

So we're the loser monkeys.  The failures of the monkey world.

we're the nerdy monkeys.

with our nerdy glasses and pencilholders, not allowed to play in the jungle anymore with the cool monkeys.

bonobos throw the greatest parties.

[B_M_W]

The Con is way ahead of you, I'm afraid SC.

A friend of mine recently had the epiphany that a species' success is based on how good they are at being fat and lazy.  Take crocodiles, sharks, etc.  All very reserved with actual effort.

I'll have you know that sharks are not lazy. They lack gas bladders so to climb or sustain their level in the water collum they have to be constantly in motion. As for success, Osteichthian fishes (bony) are far more successful than Condricthian (cartilaginous) fishes such as sharks, inhabiting a far wider aray of habitats.

As for reptiles, they require a large amount of time for sunning to maintain a relative body temperature, which requires them to be still while they thermoregulate. This only comes off as being lazy. Animals like us who have internal thermoregulation require a larger amount of food input to energeticly put out this heat. We are active and able to be active and that requires us to eat more.

Applying human characteristics like "lazy" to non-primates doesn't really hold up well.