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[LMNO]

heh.


"Map is not the Territory" is one of those buzz phrases that means, "don't treat the conclusions your mind makes about the things your senses perceive as the One and Only True Reality". 

"The menu is not the meal" is another way of saying it.


"occult studies" in these parts means extending the Law of Fives to ridiculous extremes for fun and profit.

[Wrecked Fred]

heh.


"Map is not the Territory" is one of those buzz phrases that means, "don't treat the conclusions your mind makes about the things your senses perceive as the One and Only True Reality". 

"The menu is not the meal" is another way of saying it.


"occult studies" in these parts means extending the Law of Fives to ridiculous extremes for fun and profit.

This is all about using buzz phrases to describe a culture of soundbites?  Am I reading this right, sir?

[LMNO]

Explain "culture of soundbites", please.

[Wrecked Fred]

Explain "culture of soundbites", please.

Everything we hear on television and radio is prepackaged and shrink wrapped ahead of time.  Everything our friends tell us is something they heard somewhere else.  Everyone gets their religious ideas from a church and their politics from talk radio.  The president doesn't speak to you, a speechwriter does.  Even Mexican wrestling is scripted.

[LMNO]

I think I see what you're getting at, but this goes beyond the culture at large, it seems.

[Wrecked Fred]

I think I see what you're getting at, but this goes beyond the culture at large, it seems.

I am a blabbering monkey in a sea of blabbering monkeys?   

[LMNO]

Hey, me too! 


Basically, a lot of us have been kicking concepts back and forth for quite some time now, so we've fallen into a lot of shorthand about what we mean, like when we talk about the BIP, or the Machine,Ñ¢, etc.



Anyway, look at it like this:  My brother is a Scientologist, and recently got married.  I was able to check out some of their literature, and it used a lot of metaphors to describe human thought, which is fine, we all do now and again.

Then problem is, they took these metaphors, and started believing that they were the way things actually worked.

That's what I call "eating the menu": They took their metaphors (menu) as reality (meal).

[Wrecked Fred]

Hey, me too! 


Basically, a lot of us have been kicking concepts back and forth for quite some time now, so we've fallen into a lot of shorthand about what we mean, like when we talk about the BIP, or the Machine,Ñ¢, etc.



Anyway, look at it like this:  My brother is a Scientologist, and recently got married.  I was able to check out some of their literature, and it used a lot of metaphors to describe human thought, which is fine, we all do now and again.

Then problem is, they took these metaphors, and started believing that they were the way things actually worked.

That's what I call "eating the menu": They took their metaphors (menu) as reality (meal).

I have to think about this for a while.

[AFK]

Sit down, it aids digestion. 

[Triple Zero]

"Map is not the Territory" is one of those buzz phrases that means, "don't treat the conclusions your mind makes about the things your senses perceive as the One and Only True Reality". 

"The menu is not the meal" is another way of saying it.

it also means for me, that you shouldn't worship the packaging, but take the message and go with it.

examples of eating the menu:
- discordians going on and on about 23
- pastafarians plotting out elaborate theories about pirates
- christians
- .. etc

This is all about using buzz phrases to describe a culture of soundbites?  Am I reading this right, sir?

in short: i don't think the buzz phrases or soundbites will do much good to an outside audience, but they do provide a useful shorthand for discussing some of our more elaborate ideas. it really helps you to prevent going around in the same circles all the time: when, after debate, reaching some sort of conclusion and someone says "oh just like the map and the territory", that means we don't have to discuss the map/territory aspects of the conclusion anymore, but just the way the conclusion differs from the analogy (which are always the interesting bits).

and i was gonna say something else, but i forgot. welcome to the board, btw.

[P3nT4gR4m]

and i was gonna say something else, but i forgot. welcome to the board, btw.

I'm pretty sure you were just gonna go on about how mindbendingly awesome SillyCybin is but there's really no need. It's kinda stating the obvious and I get a bit embarassed tbh.

[LMNO]

Yeah, the buzzword we use for that is "knobwad."

[Mourning Star]

Yeah, the buzzword we use for that is "knobwad."

I thought it was "Wanktank"

[P3nT4gR4m]

Don't mind these clowns, it's understandable, many people are envious of my awesome 

[That One Guy]

Just for fun, this link will take you to a PDF copy of the Black Iron Prison in page order for ease of reading. Just click "Request Download Link", wait a few seconds till the top right link says "Download File", click that and then voila, BIP!