The Golden Sphere of Possibility

[Triple Zero]

I say, to show the possibilities available.

hm not really good enough i think.

also needs an incentive for the people to explore the possibilities.

i'm afraid just showing the possibilities to them is not always going to be enough to make them actually explore them.

[LMNO]

To realize there aren't too many negative consequences to exploring the many available options?

[AFK]

also needs an incentive for the people to explore the possibilities.

we throw in a mirror?

[Mangrove]

never read any.

does ayn rand also rant about profile options and takes dogs out for poops?

No, but she did say

"As a human being, you have no choice about the fact that you need a philosophy. Your only choice is whether you define your philosophy by a conscious, rational, and disciplined process of thought and scrupulously logical deliberation ,Äî or let your subconscious accumulate a junk heap of unwarranted conclusions, false generalizations, undefined contradictions, undigested slogans, unidentified wishes, doubts and fears, thrown together by chance, but integrated by your subconscious into a kind of mongrel philosophy and fused into a single, solid weight: self-doubt, like a ball and chain in the place of where your mind,Äôs wings should have grown."

,Äî Ayn Rand, from Philosophy: Who Needs It?

thanks cain. that's cool.

is this a position that we all agree on? my experience of people claiming they have no beliefs is that they often will hold some of the wackiest, contradictory rubbish in their heads that would embarrass even devoutly religious people.

i like silly's idea of a scaffolding that he continues to tinker with. while i've never put it that succintly, i have felt in similar ways myself.

[Triple Zero]

d/n/t the lazyness of people

[P3nT4gR4m]

is this a position that we all agree on? my experience of people claiming they have no beliefs is that they often will hold some of the wackiest, contradictory rubbish in their heads that would embarrass even devoutly religious people.

i like silly's idea of a scaffolding that he continues to tinker with. while i've never put it that succintly, i have felt in similar ways myself.

There are two possible paradigms - Static and Fluid

Static is, by definition, already as good as it's ever going to get

Fluid is the only kind that has a chance of improving

The question we ask is "Do you want to improve your existence?" If the answer is "Yes" then the static paradigm IS the BIP. By adopting, and yourself actively designing, the fluid paradigm one has, in doing so replaced the BIP with a bunch of building blocks.

... Ding dong the witch is dead

[LMNO]

I think I just had a knee-jerk reaction to a bit of dualistic thinking in the above post...

[Mangrove]

i never felt BIP was static.

i mean, if a person is unaware of BIP, their BIP is still being changed & shaped by their experiences.

however, i think that becoming aware of the BIP metaphor means that a person chooses to modify their cell:

a) more quickly
b) consciously (and this is probably the most important bit)

some BIP cells change faster than others, sometimes it's through deliberate, directed action, sometimes it's just the slow, inevitable process of time passing.

[AFK]

As far as the BIP being static, that is a possibility.  However, if one is aware of the BIP, has taken into consideration how they got there, what influences it, etc., etc., and they choose to stay in their cell, then, at least, they've seen the options.  Just because someone can see it, doesn't always mean they are going to want to leave it, change it, whatever.  And nothing is permanent either.  I think we all experience bouts of fluidity and staticness.  The idea is to know where you are going, or not leaving from. 

[P3nT4gR4m]

Yeah I think you got me on that one. BIP is fluid but it's someone/something else thats making it shift.

Difference between going and being led?

[LMNO]

I seem to think that there's a difference between seeing the BIP and realizing you can reconstruct it.

[Mangrove]

Yeah I think you got me on that one. BIP is fluid but it's someone/something else thats making it shift.

Difference between going and being led?

yeah, i'd go for that.

the only way i can see the BIP being totally static is if someone reaches a state whereby they cease to have experience.

it kind of goes back to the dreaded crowley essay in the 'crowley BIP' thread. now, the thelemites have made too much of hadit/nuit as deities and all that, even though crowley's essay is in much simpler terms.

now, from other parts of the same essay (which i'll type up for sake of completion) is that when the monad capable of experience (a hadit) meets one of the possibilities available to it (nuit) it is a conjunction represented as 'love'.

however, when the hadit chooses the experience, it is 'love under will'.

or, if you prefer your terminology 'going or being led'.

[P3nT4gR4m]

now, from other parts of the same essay (which i'll type up for sake of completion) is that when the monad capable of experience (a hadit) meets one of the possibilities available to it (nuit) it is a conjunction represented as 'love'.

however, when the hadit chooses the experience, it is 'love under will'.

or, if you prefer your terminology 'going or being led'.

FTf'kin Win!

[Mangrove]

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[LHX]

these brainstorm sessions are unbelievable






...is oddly aroused