The Golden Sphere of Possibility

[P3nT4gR4m]

this place is like 'build-your-own-belief-system', and then launch it to see how far it goes

I think you're on to something with 'build-your-own-belief-system' Many criticisms, including mine, of BIP in general is negative connotation, reactive vs proactive. 'Prison' is threat, 'build your own' is opportunity.

Suggest instruction manual for DIY belief.

Paradigm Schematics, Metaphysical Knitting Patterns, Black Iron Blueprints...

BIP exposed a problem. Sequel should be solution.

[LMNO]

Go for it.

I'm interested in seeing what you come up with.


I think one of the reason we're sticking with the BIP so much is that alternate metaphors haven't really appeared, much.

[LHX]

Jailbreak is more the theme than BIP

[Triple Zero]

Suggest instruction manual for DIY belief.

maybe we should create a kids toy out of it.

instead of the chemistry box, a build-your-own-religion toybox

or maybe a card game, does anyone know the game Fluxx?

[LHX]

Suggest instruction manual for DIY belief.

maybe we should create a kids toy out of it.

instead of the chemistry box, a build-your-own-religion toybox

thats exactly what i was thinking

[Mangrove]

thought Lego

build a better paradigm

[LHX]

maps
components
concepts

if broken down properly, this is viable

[Cain]

Reconstruction.

[AFK]

BIP exposed a problem. Sequel should be solution.

special care should be taken, however, to not "preach" the solution.

Because the idea is that it is different for different people.  What might work for some, might cause heartache for others.  

[P3nT4gR4m]

Jailbreak is more the theme than BIP

I loved that bit in BIP - "You're invited to a Jailbreak" (paraphrased) but then it all got a bit "You're in Jail", "Jail is bad"... there were positive ideas but they tended to get drowned out in all the doom and gloom.

Could just call the sequel 'Jailbreak'

[brainfart]
What it looks like out there - a guide to recognising your escape vector
Black Iron Blueprints - some of the metaphysical diagrams that have been posted lately and probably before I even got here
Picking the locks on your own mind - psychological reverse engineering and paradigm shifting from beginner to advanced (mantras, koans, self hypnosis, deconditioning.. etc)
[/brainfart]

[LHX]

Reconstruction.

in a way, that seems to be what a lot of the writing here is about

offering a new observation and launching a new proposal to the common situation


(even tho it gets interpreted as 'us' = good, 'they' = bad)

[LHX]

BIP exposed a problem. Sequel should be solution.

special care should be taken, however, to not "preach" the solution.

Because the idea is that it is different for different people.  What might work for some, might cause heartache for others. 

i would go as far as to say that this is one of the components

its a cornerstone


without that, the system falls apart

[LMNO]

I think observing our cell is one of the main keys.

seeing that it's there, and what it's made of begins to offer specific, personal solutions that one doesn't need to share, because it's specific to your BIP.

[Cain]

Reconstruction.

in a way, that seems to be what a lot of the writing here is about

offering a new observation and launching a new proposal to the common situation


(even tho it gets interpreted as 'us' = good, 'they' = bad)

Well, its basically what we do.  We take things apart and put them together again, in slightly different ways.

[Triple Zero]

so basically it should contain a whole bunch of both good points and bad points of all the religions and ideas we (and anybody) can come up with.
christianity in all its virtues and flaws, same for buddhism, islam, discordianism, flying spaghetti-ism, paganism, cthulhu worship etc.

then the kid starts to play with it, put different concepts together, and notice what works and what not.

so for that to happen, there need to be "ethical challenge" cards in it. stuff that tests things like "does your current religious allow for raping 6 year old girls?", and more difficult challenges can become puzzling for example: hmm but to obtain all those "save the dolphins" points, i would need to play this "kill 11/12 of humanity" dogma-card?

also it should not really mention the actual religion the rule is lifted from.

and the ethical challenges should be up for discussion. even though there should be no difficulty about whether it's good or not to allow for molesting little children, it would also not be a good idea to state this explicitly in the rules from beforehand, since that would kind of go past on the idea of the game.
now, the problem of finding out if something is good or bad is a long long philosophical debate (ethics) which doesn't come up with a clear solution, so that would make it kinda hard.
the question "would you like to live in this prison" might solve it.
maybe kids could gain points by living their religion for a day or so.

also, maybe this game is not really for "kids"