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Started by Mangrove, February 13, 2007, 08:45:43 PM

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Well, I think when we come up with some more concrete products it might be interesting to peddle it to other Discordian hangouts on the web.  Get some other perspectives. 
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Triple Zero

it's just so hard to create a good stand-alone product.

one that people can relate to, without having to know too much of the background from here, and also that doesn't immediately make them go "wtf is this bullshit" or "you bunch of depressed weltschmerz emo whinos with your black mascara prison" and dismiss

(um i don't mean to diss any of the products made here btw)
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Quote from: triple zero on February 13, 2007, 09:09:03 PM
it's just so hard to create a good stand-alone product.

one that people can relate to, without having to know too much of the background from here, and also that doesn't immediately make them go "wtf is this bullshit" or "you bunch of depressed weltschmerz emo whinos with your black mascara prison" and dismiss

(um i don't mean to diss any of the products made here btw)

:lol: thar's gold in this here thread
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AFK

Quote from: triple zero on February 13, 2007, 09:09:03 PM
it's just so hard to create a good stand-alone product.

one that people can relate to, without having to know too much of the background from here, and also that doesn't immediately make them go "wtf is this bullshit" or "you bunch of depressed weltschmerz emo whinos with your black mascara prison" and dismiss

(um i don't mean to diss any of the products made here btw)

true, though I think we should consider products, plural, and not just one.  "#3 in a series of x"  Plust multi-media is also good. 
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Quote from: Mangrove on February 13, 2007, 09:10:15 PM
Quote from: triple zero on February 13, 2007, 09:09:03 PM
it's just so hard to create a good stand-alone product.

one that people can relate to, without having to know too much of the background from here, and also that doesn't immediately make them go "wtf is this bullshit" or "you bunch of depressed weltschmerz emo whinos with your black mascara prison" and dismiss

(um i don't mean to diss any of the products made here btw)

:lol: thar's gold in this here thread

The thing I really love about this place is that every now and again a concrete belief rears it's head and, regardless who it is that states it, they get fucking shot down in flames. Does one good to have ones shortcomings pointed out in this context.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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Quote from: SillyCybin on February 13, 2007, 09:25:10 PMthey get fucking shot down in flames. Does one good to have ones shortcomings pointed out in this context.

should i take this as lighthearted as i hope i should?
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I consider the BIP to be a Discordian Episkipos. It's not synonymous with Discordia, but it has a lot in common.

I agree that this particular episkopos is "in progress" -- the BIP isn't the end point, it's just a point on a line that leads somewhere else.


I've got a project idea up my sleeve, but I'm holding onto for now so I don't lose focus on my other real-life projects . (just finished the manuscript for this book... I'm in editing phase now, with the goal of print in March)

But to be brief, I think it would be a fun exercise for the commutiny to try and put together a complete product within a one-week time frame. Like the concept is announced on Monday, finalized by Tuesday, and then everyone starts submitting stuff. We'd make it our goal to have a PDF ready to distribute by the following Monday. This forces us to stay really goal oriented and make forward progress (?) without getting too hung up on semantics and tangents.

LHX

neat hell

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Quote from: triple zero on February 13, 2007, 09:28:18 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on February 13, 2007, 09:25:10 PMthey get fucking shot down in flames. Does one good to have ones shortcomings pointed out in this context.

should i take this as lighthearted as i hope i should?

Wasn't having a dig if that's what you mean. I have benefited from this trouncing whenever I have thought something stupid, makes rectification a much quicker process. Being called on bullshit is always a good thing. Especially if you actually believe it at the time.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

The Littlest Ubermensch

The BIP is its own thing. It will not and should not ever see print. That is the advantage of it. There are no concrete ideas, there are no concrete answers, there is nothing that can ever be built. It is a neverending catalyst of productive thought that would be self defeating if it were ever codified. The BIP is this board. It is an outshoot of discordian thought that is as much a method as it is a collection of ideas. The purpose shouldn't be to get anything concrete, but to simply spread the method and ideas out into other mediums.   

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LMNO

It would indeed be interesting to see what the original PD writers would think of it, but one's dead and the other's insane.


Oooh, spoooky Necronomicon flavors, ITT.



Prof, that's a good idea, but in practice, i've found that it really just never pulls through.  The only reason the BIP an Machine,Ñ¢ pamphlets exists is because one person hacked it together from various posts, and got it into PDF format.

I'd suggest you start it, throw it into a Word document, then email it around to us for minor editing.  Then we send it back to you for layout & PDF-ing.

Honestly, this place is DIY, literally.

Cain

I thought both were dead?  Didn't Hill die nearly 7 years ago?  And we know Thornley is dead (or in a secret CIA prison, so basically the same).

Triple Zero

Quote from: LMNO on February 14, 2007, 01:22:08 PMProf, that's a good idea, but in practice, i've found that it really just never pulls through.¬† The only reason the BIP an Machine™ pamphlets exists is because one person hacked it together from various posts, and got it into PDF format.

I'd suggest you start it, throw it into a Word document, then email it around to us for minor editing.  Then we send it back to you for layout & PDF-ing.

Honestly, this place is DIY, literally.

bittersweet troofpaste, that
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