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Started by The Good Reverend Roger, February 23, 2007, 06:56:33 AM

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#15
February 23, 2007, 06:15:44 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 23, 2007, 06:10:34 PM
Quote from: Netaungrot on February 23, 2007, 06:09:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 23, 2007, 05:33:19 PM
Quote from: Netaungrot on February 23, 2007, 05:22:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 23, 2007, 04:03:15 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on February 23, 2007, 01:54:05 PM
I, personally, would say it's in the mind.  I think it is possible to be free mentally and spiritually, but still be bogged down in the "real" and physical world.  I think a good example would be any of us here who are in a less than ideal occupation.  Unfortunately, it seems there are some games you have to play.  Because apparently hospitals don't take charm and charisma as currency. 

You can be free in jail.

Look, freedom is the act - not a state of being - of doing what YOU want to do, no matter what happens because of that.  When Martin Luther King, Jr went to Birmingham jail, he was a hell of a lot more free than the people who put him there.

Problem.

Most people have lost what they truly want in a tangle of cables, asphalt, and self-pity.

Sucks to be them.

Of course, but what to DO with them? 


Doesn't seem right to just let them slowly bleed out in the closet.

Who put them there in the first fucking place?  Not me.

I'm not convinced responsibility in a lot of these cases lands on an individual.

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The Good Reverend Roger

#16
February 23, 2007, 06:23:50 PM
Quote from: Netaungrot on February 23, 2007, 06:15:44 PM
I'm not convinced responsibility in a lot of these cases lands on an individual.



Who is responsible for YOUR freedom?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

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#17
February 23, 2007, 06:25:42 PM
Me. 


But if I get ill, my wife and family.
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The Good Reverend Roger

#18
February 23, 2007, 06:27:51 PM
Quote from: Netaungrot on February 23, 2007, 06:25:42 PM
Me. 


But if I get ill, my wife and family.

I didn't ask who was responsible for wiping your ass, I asked who was responsible for your freedom.

If the answer is ever anything but "yourself", then you aren't free.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

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#19
February 23, 2007, 06:34:13 PM
So if some drunken jackass flips his SUV onto my lap, it's my fault?
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The Good Reverend Roger

#20
February 23, 2007, 06:40:47 PM
Quote from: Netaungrot on February 23, 2007, 06:34:13 PM
So if some drunken jackass flips his SUV onto my lap, it's my fault?

What's that got to do with freedom?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

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#21
February 23, 2007, 06:52:15 PM
Seems to me we have a part in everybody's freedom we come in contact with.
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Jasper

#22
February 23, 2007, 06:57:15 PM
It is surely obvious that freedom is a choice we all make for ourselves.

Beyond this, it's just a matter of how good you are at it.

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#23
February 23, 2007, 06:58:31 PM
Quote from: Felix Mackay on February 23, 2007, 06:57:15 PM
It is surely obvious that freedom is a choice we all make for ourselves.

Beyond this, it's just a matter of how good you are at it.

Oversimplification, IMO.
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tyrannosaurus vex

#24
February 23, 2007, 07:01:30 PM
stop gumming the gears of the elite machine with your sticky gray areas, netaungrot.

warning the first (there will be no further warnings).
Evil and Unfeeling Arse-Flenser From The City of the Damned.

The Good Reverend Roger

#25
February 23, 2007, 07:06:54 PM
Quote from: Netaungrot on February 23, 2007, 06:52:15 PM
Seems to me we have a part in everybody's freedom we come in contact with.

Nope.  Freedom doesn't have SHIT to do with car accidents, etc.  You can TRY to STOP someone from being free, but you can't succeed without their approval.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#26
February 23, 2007, 07:07:45 PM
Quote from: Netaungrot on February 23, 2007, 06:58:31 PM
Quote from: Felix Mackay on February 23, 2007, 06:57:15 PM
It is surely obvious that freedom is a choice we all make for ourselves.

Beyond this, it's just a matter of how good you are at it.

Oversimplification, IMO.

Nope.

By the way, I hate your fucking sig.  It is royally jacking up my formatting, and is about to trigger my hate gland.

Just saying.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

#27
February 23, 2007, 07:09:57 PM
TGRR, you can block sigs win the profile menu.


LMNO
-a happier monkey, now that he blocks sigs.

The Good Reverend Roger

#28
February 23, 2007, 07:12:40 PM
Quote from: LMNO on February 23, 2007, 07:09:57 PM
TGRR, you can block sigs win the profile menu.


LMNO
-a happier monkey, now that he blocks sigs.

I like some sigs.  I just hate his.

Because he's a rotten bastard that thinks it's clever to post stupid fucking HUGE pics that serve no other purpose than to jack up everyone's formatting.  I hate him.  Goddammit, I hate him.  He should be dragged under a gas truck for a few blocks, to give him a chance  to examine the error of his ways.

TGRR,
Just discovered you still get nicotene fits 9 days after you quit.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Jasper

#29
February 23, 2007, 07:14:01 PM
Quote from: Netaungrot on February 23, 2007, 06:58:31 PM
Quote from: Felix Mackay on February 23, 2007, 06:57:15 PM
It is surely obvious that freedom is a choice we all make for ourselves.

Beyond this, it's just a matter of how good you are at it.

Oversimplification, IMO.

Simple things work better.  And this idea is 100% application, so I think it's appropriate if unacademic.
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