Civilian Gun Violence in 'Merica

[Pergamos]

I have never fired a rifle equipped with a bump stock. But, it is my understanding that bump stocks severely reduce the accuracy of such a rifle. So, that make a rifle equipped with a bump stock unsuitable for target shooting. In any case, automatic, and even semi-automatic rifles can not be legally used for hunting game in, at least, my state. (There used to be an exception allowing handicapped hunters to use semi-automatic rifles, and that exception may still exist.)

So, what is a rifle equipped with a bump stock actually good for? Well, as has already been well proven, it's a great choice for an indiscriminate mass shooter.

"Republicans block bill to outlaw bump stocks for rifles after Supreme Court lifts Trump-era ban"

As per this article:

"WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Republicans blocked bipartisan legislation Tuesday that would have outlawed bump stocks after the Supreme Court struck down a ban on the rapid-fire gun accessory used in the deadliest shooting in modern U.S. history.

Democrats tried to force a voice vote on the bill to ban bump stocks, a tactic often used by both parties when they know that they don't have the votes to pass legislation but want to bring an issue to the Senate floor. The bill, sponsored by Sens. Martin Heinrich, D-N.M., and Susan Collins, R-Maine, would ban the sale of the devices, similar to the rule issued by President Donald Trump's administration after a gunman in Las Vegas attacked a country music festival in 2017 with semiautomatic rifles equipped with the accessories."

And, as per further along in this article:

"Nebraska Sen. Pete Ricketts objected for Republicans, blocking an immediate vote on the bill. He called the legislation a "gun grabbing overreach" that could be interpreted to include other gun accessories beyond bump stocks."

Here's this link:    Republicult™ Blocks Bill Outlawing Bump Stocks

As surviving a mass shooting, as well as initiating one, is becoming something a 'rite of passage' in the US of A, the Republicult™ is certainly doing its part to make sure it actually becomes another 'Merican tradition.

someone facing a lynch mob is also an "indiscriminate mass shooter" That particular situation gets ignored by Dems and GOP both, but an automatic weapon is extremely nice to have if you are facing a mob.

[Doktor Howl]

I have never fired a rifle equipped with a bump stock. But, it is my understanding that bump stocks severely reduce the accuracy of such a rifle. So, that make a rifle equipped with a bump stock unsuitable for target shooting. In any case, automatic, and even semi-automatic rifles can not be legally used for hunting game in, at least, my state. (There used to be an exception allowing handicapped hunters to use semi-automatic rifles, and that exception may still exist.)

So, what is a rifle equipped with a bump stock actually good for? Well, as has already been well proven, it's a great choice for an indiscriminate mass shooter.

"Republicans block bill to outlaw bump stocks for rifles after Supreme Court lifts Trump-era ban"

As per this article:

"WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Republicans blocked bipartisan legislation Tuesday that would have outlawed bump stocks after the Supreme Court struck down a ban on the rapid-fire gun accessory used in the deadliest shooting in modern U.S. history.

Democrats tried to force a voice vote on the bill to ban bump stocks, a tactic often used by both parties when they know that they don't have the votes to pass legislation but want to bring an issue to the Senate floor. The bill, sponsored by Sens. Martin Heinrich, D-N.M., and Susan Collins, R-Maine, would ban the sale of the devices, similar to the rule issued by President Donald Trump's administration after a gunman in Las Vegas attacked a country music festival in 2017 with semiautomatic rifles equipped with the accessories."

And, as per further along in this article:

"Nebraska Sen. Pete Ricketts objected for Republicans, blocking an immediate vote on the bill. He called the legislation a "gun grabbing overreach" that could be interpreted to include other gun accessories beyond bump stocks."

Here's this link:    Republicult™ Blocks Bill Outlawing Bump Stocks

As surviving a mass shooting, as well as initiating one, is becoming something a 'rite of passage' in the US of A, the Republicult™ is certainly doing its part to make sure it actually becomes another 'Merican tradition.

someone facing a lynch mob is also an "indiscriminate mass shooter" That particular situation gets ignored by Dems and GOP both, but an automatic weapon is extremely nice to have if you are facing a mob.

A Halligan tool is better.  Both options still wind up with you dead, but if you use a Halligan tool, people will talk about it in hushed tones for three generations.

[Abbot Mythos]

someone facing a lynch mob is also an "indiscriminate mass shooter" That particular situation gets ignored by Dems and GOP both, but an automatic weapon is extremely nice to have if you are facing a mob.

I got a big kick, and a smile out of your reply. It reminded me of the time, years ago, when a friend and I were confronted by a small "mob" in an open, very public place.

I WOULD NOT BE ALIVE TODAY, AND WRITING THIS REPLY if I, or my friend, or both of us had been visibly carrying any type of firearms. And, that's because that small "mob" (Six young men.) already had their automatic weapons in their hands, and aimed directly at us from close range (Three steps out of my reach, and two steps out of my friend's reach.), before we even knew we were in any kind of trouble in that open, very public place.

And, that was also the day I came to the realization that a gun ain't worth JACK FUCKING GODDAMNED SHIT, if it's not loaded and in your hand well before the other guy(s) can get one(s) in his/their hand(s).

[Faust]

If one more ceo gets shot then the discussion about control of firearms will start.

I give it till end jan before that happens

[Abbot Mythos]

"Missouri Rep-elect wants to repeal ban on silencers—for public health reasons"

As per this article:

"Missouri Rep-elect Mike Costlow (R) wants to loosen the state's ban on silencers to protect hunters' and firearm enthusiasts' hearing. Costlow claims "...restricting those puts people at risk," by exposing them to excessive sound levels."

Here's the link:   Repeal Ban on Silencers 'Cause Risk to Public Health

I, on the other hand, believe the high velocity lead flying out of the business end of a firearm is far more unhealthy. And, that's not even taking into account the real, documented health risks associated with excessive lead levels in the human body.

[Pergamos]

someone facing a lynch mob is also an "indiscriminate mass shooter" That particular situation gets ignored by Dems and GOP both, but an automatic weapon is extremely nice to have if you are facing a mob.

I got a big kick, and a smile out of your reply. It reminded me of the time, years ago, when a friend and I were confronted by a small "mob" in an open, very public place.

I WOULD NOT BE ALIVE TODAY, AND WRITING THIS REPLY if I, or my friend, or both of us had been visibly carrying any type of firearms. And, that's because that small "mob" (Six young men.) already had their automatic weapons in their hands, and aimed directly at us from close range (Three steps out of my reach, and two steps out of my friend's reach.), before we even knew we were in any kind of trouble in that open, very public place.

And, that was also the day I came to the realization that a gun ain't worth JACK FUCKING GODDAMNED SHIT, if it's not loaded and in your hand well before the other guy(s) can get one(s) in his/their hand(s).

That mob was explicitly not a lynch mob, how do we know that?  Because you and your friend were not lynched.

As you pointed out a bump stock weapon is less accurate than it would be without the bump stock, so against one victim it doesn't give the mob any advantage, even if every member has one, meanwhile it gives the outnumbered person way more chance to kill the members of the mob. 

In your case, if you had been armed you would have probably been killed, which was not the outcome the mob you were facing was hoping for, meanwhile for a victim of a lynch mob, if they are unarmed they absolutely will be killed because that is the outcome the mob is looking for.  If they are armed they will probably still die, but they have a much higher chance of taking some of their killers with them.

[Abbot Mythos]

I think I know the difference between a "reflex" and a "conditioned response." But, when I see articles like this, I begin to question my knowledge:

"Republicans balk at child fatality report recommending no guns in households with children"

"The GOP lawmakers claim the state is 'stripping' 2nd Amendment rights by saying fewer kids would die if they had less access to firearms"

As per this article:

"Two Republican state representatives have accused the Arizona Department of Health Services of coming after the Second Amendment rights of parents after the agency concluded in its annual Child Fatality Review Team report that there would be fewer children killed by guns in Arizona if there were fewer firearms in homes.
 
"We are appalled that the (Child Fatality Review Team) speaking on behalf of the Arizona Department of Health Services, is actually advocating for stripping Arizonans of their Second Amendment rights in their own homes," Reps. Quang Nguyen and Selina Bliss wrote in a letter to Jennie Cunico, head of Arizona DHS, on Monday. 

But the report, released in November, doesn't actually advocate for that."

Here's the link to the article:      Republicult™ Elected Officials Favor Having Guns in Households with Children

Now, I grew up in a "Gun Culture." I was somewhere around twelve years old when my father taught me how to handle a shotgun (I might have been even a bit younger.). And, as I grew up near the middle of nowhere, I was taught in our backyard. (Our backyard was very large. Shotgun pellets wouldn't carry anywhere near the distance to the next houses.) After that, I was hunting deer by myself, with a rifle, years before I could legally drive. (Legal driving age in my state is and was 16 years old.) And, I was allowed to buy my first pistol, a 22LR semi-automatic, around the same time I obtained my driving learner's permit. So, I think I know a little bit about guns and "gun culture."

Still, the above kind of "thinking" from adults old enough to hold elected office is foreign to me. Now, I still don't believe their response is a "reflex." So, I can't help wondering, who the hell taught these particular idiots to behave like this? And, why were they taught to behave like this?