The Magazine Thread

[Ambassador KAOS]

Magazine?

I think it would be pertinent to Make it BIP focused rather than Discordian focused.

A) it's an established and devloped idea

D) there is a plethora of material already written awaiting publication

R) there is a ton of unpollished gems that can be ressurected at a moments notice to fill in any gaps for an issue

Q) People in the forum are already on the BIP train and finding fresh material will be easy

ASS) Doing other discordian related articles like the funeral coverage would be doable as they are related topics as BIP is indeed launched from discordianism.

$) Focus on one thing at a time or nothing gets done.  As far as I know the BIP isn't finished and has been in progress for how long?  It's big enough to warrant a mag by now, I would think, rather than a single pamphlet publication, otherwise valuable nonsense might get cut and cheapen it.

Questions:

Is this online only? If not where's the funding?  getting to brass tax will make planning the thing easier.  If there is no money, it's an online mag.
If there is money the funders need to discuss what needs to appear.

What is needed:
Chief of Staff, Editor(s), writers, Art Director, Artists, distributors.
Who will do what and for how long?

Regulation?  quarterly? monthly?

what other questions can be asked?

[tyrannosaurus vex]

the thing will be published bi-weekly.

it will be an online publication at first, but through subtle deception and outright trickery of the masses*, we will soon have enough cash to make it a news stand rag, a made-for-tv movie, and a smash-hit album performed by the Traveling Willburys or Molly Hatchet (whoever's still alive and/or cheaper).










*for information on how to make this happen, contact your local branch of Globalist National and inquire about the Rapture Raffle program.

[Ambassador KAOS]

It may be easier to work on if we pick a scope that we all agree on (yeah right). I still like the idea of writing a magazine for Discordians which also has appeal to non-Discordians, but we seem fragmented on that. I'm basically cool with whatever we decide, if we decide on anything at all.

Ok, I think one option might be to have a few articles with different viewpoints if there are any opinion based pieces.  Basically a return to the theme issue idea, even though theme issues sorta suck.  Most people want variety, and if they want to read all about one subject they read a book on it.

Agreed 

[Cramulus]

I've been really hot on the magazine idea. When we were all brainstorming, people seemed to be excited about it too. Once the ideas started to concrete there was a widespread interest lost. I figured I'd get the project rolling by writing some text.

Two weeks ago, I did some research and found the names of six or seven people who were at Robert Anton Wilson's funeral / cosmic meme-orial. I e-mailed them asking if they'd like to be interviewed and got only one reply. People seemed to be really busy. Et cetera.

I'm still interested in editing / working on a magazine project, but it needed more juice. Earlier in this thread I suggested that what we need is:

First: a concrete plan for what the magazine's about. Some people wanted a Discordian magazine and some wanted a BIP magazine. Some wanted the target audience to be the general public with Discordian undertones, some wanted to specifically target Discordians.

Second: We needed some people to volunteer up articles. We need an art / layout editor with pdf skillz.

I predict that the project will advance once we have four or five people total who are interested in putting some motion into it. (our goal was to have 20 pages of articles... so that would be about four or five pages per person - totally managable) At the moment I'm not sure if there's any interest 'cause the discussion's been dead for a bit.

But that's the nature of these projects, it seems.

[tyrannosaurus vex]

i say we all just come up with whatever strikes us, who cares what it's about (if anything), print it out, cut it up, glue it back together, scan it, make a PDF, and publish it.

make it practically illegible, mostly full of filler (that's apparently what sells these days), and avoid the pitfalls of:
--too much emo
--bad haircuts
--bad artschool-chic graphic design

too much "here's what we're doing and here's how" is going to strangle the bejeesus out of anything a bunch of discordians ever dream up, even if it sounds like a good idea at the time.

always have no plan. that's just advice, though, not direction.

[Cramulus]

always have no plan. that's just advice, though, not direction.

Good plan advice!

[Ambassador KAOS]

agreed, let people write what they will, that way they will write.  I think having it as a BIP based thing would be best though, for reasons stated above, but whatever.

I recomend if you are going to run this thing that you ask people to write up an article.  First ask them what they want to write about, encourage and develop the idea with them.  Set a deadline.  Collect.

Put the most interesting piece (from a media standpoint) on the cover.  Send orders to art director for layout and voila it's done.  Email the fucker. The End.  Next issue.

Before long you'll have people approaching you with ideas for articles or finished articles and now all you need to do is run spell check.  Things get easier with experience. 

Next get an intern to do your job for you and give you head.  Buy a cigaar.

I'll vollunteer to write an article.  I'll also vollunteer to help out where I can when asked for specific tasks. 

Where I can meaning specifically where I am willing and able without snipping my own nuts and going crazy over it.

[Cramulus]

I'll vollunteer to write an article.  I'll also vollunteer to help out where I can when asked for specific tasks. 

Berry good! Check out the original post for some article suggestions. Or come up with your own.

what did LMNO say earlier? easiest way to start an avalanche is to throw a snowball?

[Ambassador KAOS]

I'll vollunteer to write an article.  I'll also vollunteer to help out where I can when asked for specific tasks. 

Berry good! Check out the original post for some article suggestions. Or come up with your own.

what did LMNO say earlier? easiest way to start an avalanche is to throw a snowball?

I think some important things to establish for the first article would be to address a brief explantion and most common noob questions about what the mag represents, how it got started and why it exists.  I really think that would be a necessary editorial for the intro to the first issue.

Being that I keep pointing to the BIP as a need to be covered with little backing I think I'll attempt to do an article on it.  Possibly an intro and an interview with the the people who began the project.  Who would those people be? 
I asked before who was in charge of the thing and/or who created it but I heard resounding chorus of "not I!"
.

Anyone got a straight answer on this?

[P3nT4gR4m]

It was teh j00s

(nope - no straight answers here - try asking LMNO)

[LMNO]

Definately teh j00s.


LMNO
-j00 lover.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Come on, at least he's trying.

Throw the dog a bone

[LMNO]

If I recall, I think I wrote the original BIP essay.  But it was more or less the "BIP moment", where everyone pretty much had the same kind of idea at the same time.

At the risk of sounding pretentious, Here are the people who I think spoke about it first:

Me
LHX
Cain
ECH
Triple Zero
RWHN


I know there are more, but I can't recall.

[LHX]

the PD06 era

[Ambassador KAOS]

If I recall, I think I wrote the original BIP essay.  But it was more or less the "BIP moment", where everyone pretty much had the same kind of idea at the same time.

At the risk of sounding pretentious, Here are the people who I think spoke about it first:

Me
LHX
Cain
ECH
Triple Zero
RWHN


I know there are more, but I can't recall.

Next point, which of these are willing and able to be subjected to interviews.

Preemptive preamble will resemble something like this:

"It is duely noted that those interviewed cannot be held legally morally or otherwise accountable for their responses as they are likely to change their minds, change the facts and intentionally subvert their own logics.  Plus they're miserable bastards with CRS.  That being said..."

DON'T BE A HOT POCKET! GIVE AN INTERVIEW!

Also, idea for title since i haven't seen a post that indicated a deffinent one...

PrincipiaDiscordia.com

Yes, it's teh ghey.  Yes, there are obvious positive and negative aspects to doing so.  I still think it's always best to pull a spade when naming something and as far as I know: who works on it is here, content comes from and is related to here and it automatically vallidates whatever goes in it based on that principle whether the message is right, wrong or retarded.

The website was how we all got here as far as I know, so it sounds kinky to me.

That being said, the ideas presented shouldn't be forum rips but actual pieces from the authors on the site and be about topics that they feel need covering.

As in all circumstances a vote against should incude an option you feel is better.