My brain just told me a new word...

[P3nT4gR4m]

Paradoxicality : An alternative to causality which postulates that the cause of things can be a result, of the improbablity of that occurence, balanced against the improbability of its anitithesis. Neither state is likely to manifest but, because they are theseis and antithesis it follows that one must. So they both do.

This is evidenced by the notion of primum mobile or the big bang. Absolute nothingness cannot exist and neither can absolutely everything which leads both to enter into existence simultaneously

Q) Have I invented this or (as usual) did some smart arsed bastich beat me to it?

[Cain]

http://ccbs.ntu.edu.tw/FULLTEXT/JR-JOCP/jc26896.htm

http://www.morewords.com/word/paradoxicality/

http://philo.at/pipermail/phil-logic/2002-September/001183.html


In fact, one of my old philosophy lecturers at St Andrews have been doing research into paradoxically true and valid logical statements for a while now, upsetting most of the academic community.

But it is a good word.

[P3nT4gR4m]

http://philo.at/pipermail/phil-logic/2002-September/001183.html

An internal phonecall I've just had from my mate on the factory floor ended thus: "Don't send me anything like this again. Ever. Like really. Ever Ever."

Mission accomplished  :-D

[Cain]

I did stuff like that for all of my first year philosophy.  I hated it.

[LMNO]

Wouldn't these issues be clearer if symbolic language was used?


That is, can't we make mathematic equations out of this?

[Cain]

Yes.  But then my brain hurts and I have to lie down in the dark until I feel better.  I hate symbolic logic, when it gets complex.

[LMNO]

For some reason, it makes more visual sense to me than "This sentance is True if the preceeding one is false," and all that.


Speaking of which, have you heard of a book called "knots"?

The guy uses vague language and imprecise pronouns to build complex philisophical dilemmas.


I thought it was crap, but apparently it was a big hit in the 60s/70s.

[Cain]

Oh, it makes more sense.  Until you have pages of complex equations to unravel and need a key to remind you what everything means. 

And the name sounds familiar, but I don't know the book....

[Jasper]

Because it's hilarious:

23:  Sentence 23 is not true and God does not exist.

[Jenne]

I always found this shit to be quite cool...but I never delved into it b/c the linguistics mania took over and I didn't want to be in undergrad for 30 years.

[Triple Zero]

Oh, it makes more sense.  Until you have pages of complex equations to unravel and need a key to remind you what everything means. 

actually, that's just the thing with symbolic logic (or math) that makes it easier than trying to cramp the whole concept in your head: you can just forget about what it all means and just apply the typographic rules.
if you try to keep a global idea of what you are working with, your head is going splody sooner or later. but if you just apply the rules, and only have a global vague idea of a direction in which you're heading (which you get with practice, by getting familiar with the structure of mathematical proofs), you can just pretty much go blindly without having to get the big picture all at once. then, when you're done, you can fetch your key and see what the outcome actually means, besides the now meaningless symbols on your paper.

[Cain]

Sez you.

I hated Maths and I hate language being treated like Maths.  Except as some sort of perverse intellectual exercise.  As long as it doesn't last 8 months.

[Ambassador KAOS]

I had that thought independantly too and simplified it as follows:

true = false.

Dead thread resurrected.

[P3nT4gR4m]

I had that thought independantly too and simplified it as follows:

true = false.

Dead thread ruint.

Fuck off!