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Started by LHX, April 29, 2007, 03:26:14 PM

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LHX

before i get to my main point - i have a little tangent to go off on:


on the surface - people will tell you that they like honesty

but
amongst the many perils that ol' LHX has to face on a regular basis are the people who are able to intellectually acknowledge that 'honesty' is preferred over deception
yet
when faced with certain 'honesties' (in place of deception)
these people start to squirm

this is annoying in a lot of ways

a lot of people's first instinct when they hear a new but unfortunate or unpleasant piece of information
(especially one that sounds accurate)
is to lash out at wherever that piece of information came from

as tho throwing rocks at a cloud would prevent the fact that the parade has been and is being rained on


the second aspect in which this is annoying is that people get the deliverer of the message confused with being some sort of supporter of the message

i dont like half of the shit that comes out of my mouth or my finger tips
but
what is a person supposed to do?
hold back?
lie?
(one could say those are both the same thing)

did everybody get mad at their school teacher when she said that 3 x 3 = 9?

whats the difference between that and any other situation where a person is trying to bring something to your attention?


capsule summary:
LHX interviews LHX about LHX:

LHX - Thanks for joining us, X. What we really want to know is: you point out a lot of bleak observations online; and offline, when serious subject matters come up in conversation, you seem to have a tendency to really deconstruct things down to their bare bones. You have been known to point out that we are experiencing some sort of social decline - and have even been known to toss the word 'apocalypse' about (-chuckle-). So the question is: do you enjoy these observations?

LHX - No.

**********



that being said

the main point of this post is the following observation / reminder:

You live in a place where even if you conduct your actions with good intent and proper reasoning, and even if your intent is to help and support, your motives can and will be misinterpreted.

Due to the nature of the situation we are experiencing, and drawing heavily from the flaws of perception as covered in-depth on these boards, it is possible for proper actions to be misunderstood, falsely accused, slandered and subsequently punished, and it would have nothing to do with you.

The same can be said about approaching any force of nature - and it is becoming more apparent than ever that a 'force of nature' is exactly what this quasi-robotic mankind has become (not the highly-sophisticated and righteously analytical machine that it strives to be).
Tornadoes will not check your ID.
Earthquakes will not interview you before wrecking.
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For anybody who has stuck around to this point in the diatribe - let me point out a brush stroke of silver lining -

although you are not immune to these 'forces of nature' - in place of a Cure-All-Answer,Ñ¢ - there is a Best-Approach-to-Take,Ñ¢

this best approach involves - first and foremost - reconciling this unfortunate circumstance and accepting the nature of the situation

second - it involves not being dumb enough to allow yourself to get wrecked (mentally) by being caught off-guard by a situation that really shouldnt have caught you off-guard

alleviate those traces of panic and anxiety that result from being raised into a situation where it seemed like you were a part of a society capable of conducting itself with civility

the punchline of the joke is that it really wasnt you that had the problem after all
and you dont even have to say that to yourself and feel like you are only trying to cheer yourself up


somebody forgot to check the math on this planet
all you anti-socialites who feel bad about being anti-social can now revel in the fact that society was fucked up in the first place - its not your fault

now yall can focus on taking care of your other shortcomings
like your laziness
and unreconciled fetishes

but above all
you now have less reason than ever to back down from finding ways to take a hammer to this place


the foundation is cracked
and the cracks are getting exposed more and more


the third aspect of the Best-Approach-to-Take,Ñ¢ - align yourself with those who are big enough to acknowledge these Ugly Truths,Ñ¢ as well

getting thru this shit is going to take approximately everything you have in you

spread your messages

find those that back you up

use any mechanisms for support

and support those who are enduring the same shit you are



if you take the 'smart' approach - even tho you will still prolly get ripped apart and obliterated (possibly/probably even by those you love the most)
you will not have to be shocked and dismayed when it takes place

and possibly
possibly

manipulate a way to enjoy the process between now and then



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Payne

:mittens:

I enjoyed this one, even though it seems you were more uncomfortable about writing some of it than usual.

LHX

im really trying hard to be gentle


maybe i need to buy some padded gloves to wear when i type
neat hell

Payne

Hmmmm. Why are you trying to be gentle? Personally, I happen to like the fact that you just write it as you see it.

Your posting should be required reading for any furrys (as in the posting grade, not actual furries).

Dr. Cow Ass

I didn't read the entire post but I definetly agree with the honesty bit in the begging.

If someone came up to me and told me my breath smelled, I'm lazy, and my hair line is receding on the left side of my head eventhough I'm still young, I'd probably have to beat the shit out of them.
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hunter s.durden

You judged the entire post based on a few lines.

hurm...
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LHX

Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on April 30, 2007, 07:55:34 PM
I didn't read the entire post but I definetly agree with the honesty bit in the begging.

If someone came up to me and told me my breath smelled, I'm lazy, and my hair line is receding on the left side of my head eventhough I'm still young, I'd probably have to beat the shit out of them.
theres a difference between being honest and airing out criticisms and opinions for the fuck of it
neat hell

P3nT4gR4m

This has occurred to me as a result of reading your post.

Comes down to social conventions of, for want of a better word, 'integrity'

People hate liars and fakers and general people who hide who they really are.

"be yourself", "honesty is the best policy", "do the right thing"

BULLSHIT!

This is just horsecrap those motherfuckers shovel on you to try and get you to conform to the norm.

In the inevitable event that you do happen to have any guilty little secrets you don't want society to find out about then this will make sure you feel like shit because of it but, in general, if you wear your heart on your sleeve, help old ladies across the road and never think thoughtcrime then you'll be fine in their book.

Well here's the deal - if I were to say what's on my mind, in your company, mr plays by the rules, does what he's told, never steps outta line or thinks an impure thought, I'd be screaming like a motherfucker! Right in your face, I'd be. Telling you all about how much you make me wanna puke, in words of one syllable or less. While you were ducking the spray of flying spittle I'd be Jumping up and down on your twitching corpse and setting fire to your favourite bistro.

Problem with me is I aint like those fucks and, if I was honest about my shit, right out loud, in public, then they'd have nightmares even after I was nailed to an electric chair and hung by gas. They really wouldn't like to hear what I trully think. So I lie and I cheat and I hide behind whatever I can find to cover my sneer and lo and behold those dumb bastards love me.

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Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on April 30, 2007, 07:55:34 PM
I didn't read the entire post but I definetly agree with the honesty bit in the begging.

If someone came up to me and told me my breath smelled, I'm lazy, and my hair line is receding on the left side of my head eventhough I'm still young, I'd probably have to beat the shit out of them.
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Dr. Cow Ass

Quote from: LHX on April 30, 2007, 08:41:50 PM
Quote from: Dr. Cow Ass on April 30, 2007, 07:55:34 PM
I didn't read the entire post but I definetly agree with the honesty bit in the begging.

If someone came up to me and told me my breath smelled, I'm lazy, and my hair line is receding on the left side of my head eventhough I'm still young, I'd probably have to beat the shit out of them.
theres a difference between being honest and airing out criticisms and opinions for the fuck of it

True, but if I asked an acquaintance "How do I look..."


Plus, it's only a slight recession.  :|
I bring the Spicy.

Triple Zero

Quotepeople who are able to intellectually acknowledge that 'honesty' is preferred over deception
yet
when faced with certain 'honesties' (in place of deception)
these people start to squirm

this is annoying in a lot of ways

ofuk i know that kind of shit.

my father sometimes does it, starts disagreeing and "oh no no no" and "tsk tsk" with cold hard facts, because he doesn't like the conclusion it might lead to. [ok, so i was playing advocate for the devil a littlebit .. :-) ]

other times, these are also situations in which people grab back to "the rules" (or convention)

also, i notice this very often, when i read some alarming bit of news about climate change (just as an example of alarming shit nobody wants to hear), and i try to discuss that with other people. they will squirm and start with any "ah but those research are bullshit" or whatever.
but the worst thing is, i do it myself. i know exactly what you're talking about, because if someone comes to me with some alarming news about climate change, my first impulse is to dismiss, discredit or disregard the information just as well! whether i give in to this impulse or not, is another thing of course, but i can feel the urge just the same:

to battle bad news by attacking the news, the information, instead of whatever it's about. it's like sending back the menu, when your steak is burnt.

Quote from: Xdid everybody get mad at their school teacher when she said that 3 x 3 = 9?

well, he could have brought it with a bit more tact you know. some of my best friends were 9 at the time, so he could have expected it wouldn't go down well. and they could never prove it was my pencil, anyway.

;-)

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for the rest of your post, good advice on resisting the impulse and what to do with it, plus i'm glad somebody finally found a piece of silver lining to point out [ just the lulz is not always enough ]

i'm probably gonna consider this stuff again.
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