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MCLUHAN SAID

Started by LHX, May 02, 2007, 05:14:12 PM

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LHX

"there is absolutely no inevitability as long as there is a willingness to contemplate what is happening"


i tend to agree

throws a nice little spin on the free will/fate business


the absence of inevitabilty was pre-determined


i lolled
neat hell

Cramulus

Control what they're contemplating
or the terms with which they define it

and you control the decision



example: partisanship. One state two state, red state blue state

Now when you get think outside of that framework,
("Hm, I need to stop thinking in terms of left vs right")
another kind of freedom emerges.

But it's hard to escape all the pitfalls



American example:

:sadbanana: : Hey man, what party do you belong to?
:tgrr: : Neither!
:sadbanana: : Well who did you vote for?
:tgrr: : Gore.
:sadbanana: : Well then you're a liberal, or at least you act like one.
:tgrr: VOMIT



LMNO

Quote from: Professor Cramulus on May 02, 2007, 07:04:36 PM
Control what they're contemplating
or the terms with which they define it

and you control the decision



example: partisanship. One state two state, red state blue state

Now when you get think outside of that framework,
("Hm, I need to stop thinking in terms of left vs right")
another kind of freedom emerges.

But it's hard to escape all the pitfalls



American example:

:sadbanana: : Hey man, what party do you belong to?
:tgrr: : Neither!
:sadbanana: : Well who did you vote for?
:tgrr: : Gore.
:sadbanana: : You pussy.


Fixed.


LMNO
-voted 3rd party, like areal man does.

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Triple Zero

i was kinda waiting until the whole america voting stuff would start up again

really wondered what the consensus (lol) about it on this board would be
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Quote from: triple zero on May 03, 2007, 02:14:37 PM
i was kinda waiting until the whole america voting stuff would start up again

really wondered what the consensus (lol) about it on this board would be

we're screwed sums it up pretty nicely I think. 

Oh wait, I'm going to fix that myself.

we are going to continue to be screwed. 

To me, the choices on both sides of the aisle, are kind of like going into a convenience store wanting to pick up some cola.  Except, they've run out of Pepsi and Coke so now your choices are Tab, R/C Cola, or the local generic brand.  You already know you are going to be disappointed so you just pick the one that is going to cost you the least. 

I think we should make a list of everyone on this board who will be over the age of 35 on election day so I can just write in one of you fuckers. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

LMNO

Actually, I have been considering running for president.

I have a couple of friends who develop online viral marketing who might be interested.

I'll keep you all informed if anything develops.

theCalmpsychopath

I'd vote for you

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on May 03, 2007, 03:34:50 PM

To me, the choices on both sides of the aisle, are kind of like going into a convenience store wanting to pick up some cola.  Except, they've run out of Pepsi and Coke so now your choices are Tab, R/C Cola, or the local generic brand.  You already know you are going to be disappointed so you just pick the one that is going to cost you the least. 

:lulz: thats a good analogy
the human brain is like a grizzly bear with a midget on the back trying to control it

P3nT4gR4m

Teh reason I have fuck all to do with democracy is that basically I don't believe in it. I don't mean that in the "I have lost my faith in it" sense. I mean I don't believe in it the same way I don't believe in Santa Claus or the fucking tooth fairy.

You got a little box that you get to put a tick in.

Like putting a tick in a box is gonna make up for the fact that I'm gonna get shafted for another 4 years or whatever?

What's the choice exactly?

A lying fuckpig who will renege on all his election promises v's a lying fuckpig with a slightly different face and voice who will (you guessed it) renege on all his election promises.

But hey I could prolly go for that if I wasn't so cynical.

See I know that whichever lying fuckpig I choose will not have the power to make a single decision or even voice an opinion as long as he's in office.

It's the people who run the country that get to do that stuff and you don't get to vote for those fucks. Most of the time you're not even allowed to know who they are.

Paranoid conspiracy theory or realistic appraisal of a scam by a proven expert in scamming (read unprosecuted evar)

The one thing they can't make me do is put an x in that fucking box. So I don't and, in doing so, I excercise the only democratic right that anyone has.

Democracy is a dream people - wake up!

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Fuquad

Chaos Graves.

Just made age this year.

Vote Early. Vote often.



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Cain

McLuhan himself, the spectacle's first apologist, who had seemed to be the most convinced imbecile of the century, changed his mind when he finally discovered in 1976 that "the pressure of the mass media leads to irrationality," and that it was becoming urgent to modify their usage. The thinker of Toronto had formerly spent several decades marveling at the numerous freedoms created by a 'global village' instantly and effortlessly accessible to all. Villages, unlike towns, have always been dominated by conformism, isolation, petty surveillance, boredom and repetitive malicious gossip about the same families. And this also presents the vulgarity of this spectacular planet, where it is no longer possible to distinguish the Grimaldi-Monaco or Bourbon-Franco dynasties from those who succeeded the Stuarts. However, McLuhan's ungrateful disciples are now trying to make people forget him, so as to rejuvenate his early works and, in their turn, develop a career in mediatic eulogy for all these new freedoms to 'choose' at random from ephemera. And probably they will retract their claims even faster than the man who inspired them.

I think Guy Debord just pwned McLuhan...

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Quote from: Cain on December 20, 2007, 07:29:14 PM
McLuhan himself, the spectacle's first apologist, who had seemed to be the most convinced imbecile of the century, changed his mind when he finally discovered in 1976 that "the pressure of the mass media leads to irrationality," and that it was becoming urgent to modify their usage. The thinker of Toronto had formerly spent several decades marveling at the numerous freedoms created by a 'global village' instantly and effortlessly accessible to all. Villages, unlike towns, have always been dominated by conformism, isolation, petty surveillance, boredom and repetitive malicious gossip about the same families. And this also presents the vulgarity of this spectacular planet, where it is no longer possible to distinguish the Grimaldi-Monaco or Bourbon-Franco dynasties from those who succeeded the Stuarts. However, McLuhan's ungrateful disciples are now trying to make people forget him, so as to rejuvenate his early works and, in their turn, develop a career in mediatic eulogy for all these new freedoms to 'choose' at random from ephemera. And probably they will retract their claims even faster than the man who inspired them.

I think Guy Debord just pwned McLuhan...


I think Debord and McLuhan were both blind men with their hands on an elephant. An elephant whose urethra is being raped by SillyCybin.
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Cain

True.  I just prefer Debord because he pissed people off, and was the epitome of an academic asshole.