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Started by Jasper, May 15, 2007, 03:15:29 AM

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Quote from: SillyCybin on May 15, 2007, 02:54:51 PM
IMO "spirituality" is one of those icky words. It's got "spirit" in it ffs. I refuse to tar my self with that brush.

It seemed to grow out of people trying to leave the negative trappings of 'religion' behind. Unfortunately the same kind of tards took over the movement and now it's hard to tell them apart.

Spirituality is just like religion now, but much more vague and gullible (no - not open minded - I said gullible)

I would argue that spirituality CAN be just like religion.  It's a tool that people use and it can only BE how people make it to be.  When I think of spirituality vs. religion I think of an awareness of your world vs. following someone else's awareness of your world.  I think someone might be able to argue that BIP is a form of spirituality.  Also, I tend to think of spirituality as more of a personal thing vs. many religions which tend to be more of a community thing. 
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Quote from: LMNO on May 15, 2007, 02:00:51 PM
I'm trying to figure out if I should build up steam to make a "spirituality is not religion" post.



I should note that when I said "Spirituality" I was referring to the belief that certain spirits/ entities exist which influence our daily lives and can be "contacted" through various rituals. I guess I should have used spiritualism instead.

I bring the Spicy.

LMNO

Yeah, you probably should have.

B_M_W

I think the word spirituality should be outlawed for a while, until people figure out how to not connect it to religion or bullshit.
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6.5 billion Buddhas walking around.

99.xxxxxxx% forgot they are Buddha.

LMNO

Good call.


Tough one, though.

Adios

Spirituality, the word has become as distorted as the word pagan. This has effectively undermined the definition. They are now both interchangable with 'Fluff-n-Stuff.' As far as paranormal activity, I think the things that are documented are a reflection of our limited understanding of the brain and some of it's unlocked functions.

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe on May 15, 2007, 04:03:25 PM
I think the word spirituality should be outlawed for a while, until people figure out how to not connect it to religion or bullshit.

:mittens:

Already practising that - you tell me you're into crystal healing I'll give you the same stick I'll give a born again faithfool.

I might have described myself as 'spiritual' before it became a co-opted marketing fad but maybe not even then. Truth is I don't think they have a word for me. If they ever do I may be forced to kill them.




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Cain

I like "agnostic".

Not the same connotations, but it can still be used in good faith, and at least shows some sort of thought on the topic.

LMNO

Hey!


Karl Rove is agnostic, too!



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CAIN IS AN ALT OF KARL ROVE!!!!!

Cain


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I see 'belief' conversations like poker. Do nevar show your hand! Wait'll the person who wants to know has laid their cards on the table. Then you can decide what you want to tell them, based on your assessment of how likely they are to understand what you say.

To subscribe to a 'school of thought' (in matters of religion/spirituality) shows you are a 'pupil' and will be condescended to ad infinitum. If you're a fast learner you might even realise thats what's happening.

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Cain

I never tell people, unless they ask.  Its impolite, otherwise.  And utterly useless.  I tell you, most Pagans would never face "persecution" if they had any social manners whatsoever.

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Quote from: Cain on May 15, 2007, 04:41:05 PM
I never tell people, unless they ask.  Its impolite, otherwise.  And utterly useless.  I tell you, most Pagans would never face "persecution" if they had any social manners whatsoever.

Hell yeah :mittens:

I've been known to wear pagan paraphernalia (pentagrams and sun/moon jewellery and the like) and, when asked what they mean, say something along the lines of "Nothing - it's just fucking jewellery dude!"

Cos I just fucking love being the guy on the train having a conversation about unicorns with some treehugging castaneda groupie that smells like rancid yak and patchoulli.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: SillyCybin on May 15, 2007, 05:16:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 15, 2007, 04:41:05 PM
I never tell people, unless they ask.  Its impolite, otherwise.  And utterly useless.  I tell you, most Pagans would never face "persecution" if they had any social manners whatsoever.

Hell yeah :mittens:

I've been known to wear pagan paraphernalia (pentagrams and sun/moon jewellery and the like) and, when asked what they mean, say something along the lines of "Nothing - it's just fucking jewellery dude!"


"I take them from Pagans I beat up.  They're like trophies."
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- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cain

 :lol:

But its true.  I remember at MW, where they were talking about telling their co-workers, or "coming out of the broom closet".  Who gives a shit?  I mean, really?  Sure, if I want to be your friend or are interested in you in other ways, I might eventually ask a question like that, but its hardly a top priority.  Same for flaunting my own beliefs.

In short, stfu, no-one cares what you believe.  If you're so Pink you feel compelled to have to let everyone know how you label yourself, well thats your problem and I hope you get used to the consequences.