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Designing Toys for Wealthy People while >95% of the Rest of the People Suffer

Started by LHX, June 24, 2007, 04:40:07 PM

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Discord

"We all live in our own world" Thats a phrase i thought a lot about, and hell yes its correct.
We all live in our own world, our own little cell WE have built. No matter how ridiculous our bars are, they are real - for us.

The homeless person who screams how much pain he has, well in his world he surely is the one with the worst pain. Silly might now come around kick him in his ass and scream "Stop being emo and get a job", even if this is possible for him, it might won't be for the homeless emo.
Its pretty much the core of what i think BIP is, or what BIP is to me.

Also
Quotea chain is as strong as its weakest link
what happens if you shoot the weakest link?
Will the rest be "stronger" or "better" or will the chain fall apart?

LHX

Quote from: Torodung on June 29, 2007, 08:32:14 PM

Second. A truly untrained child will look at an open wound and laugh. He has to know that bleeding is "bad" first. Otherwise, red is really quite pretty.

When I was a child, I saw my next door neighbor fall 20' from a ladder one day and it completely failed to register that the bone protruding from his ankle was a bad thing. I thought he was Wile E. Coyote or something because I didn't know what I was looking at. He smiled at me (or perhaps winced, even in my mind's eye I can't tell the difference) and I laughed.

When his wife ran out and I saw the look on her face, that was when I knew something bad had happened. The 911 call went out 3 minutes later than it had to because I just didn't know.

In my experience, it takes experience with injury to produce an adverse reaction to injury. You have to be hurt to recognize hurt. This is how the folks in the suburbs fail to see the hurt all around them. It just doesn't register.

Beyond that, you are real life, even if you live in the suburbs. Anything you choose to do with that is "real life." There is nothing more real about living on the street than living in a comfortable climate controlled pink house.

The only difference I see is a disconnect in the dialogue of pain. Neither can see each other's hurt.

It's an interesting read, thanks for sharing.

nice response

real nice


i definitely see where you are coming from
neat hell

LHX

Quote from: Darth Cupcake on June 29, 2007, 09:25:11 PM
Quote from: Torodung on June 29, 2007, 08:32:14 PM
In my experience, it takes experience with injury to produce an adverse reaction to injury. You have to be hurt to recognize hurt. This is how the folks in the suburbs fail to see the hurt all around them. It just doesn't register.

Beyond that, you are real life, even if you live in the suburbs. Anything you choose to do with that is "real life." There is nothing more real about living on the street than living in a comfortable climate controlled pink house.

The only difference I see is a disconnect in the dialogue of pain. Neither can see each other's hurt.

It's an interesting read, thanks for sharing.

This is actually a very interesting point.

It is like the "oppression contest" we used to joke about in some of my classes in college. How feminists have a hard time unifying because black feminists say they don't want to unify with priveledged suburban white feminists and singles won't join with married women with kids and dykes won't ally with straight girls and NO ONE will ally with the bi girls, etc, etc, etc. All of them saying "sure, they're suffering--but we're suffering SO MUCH WORSE." Which is, frankly, fucking stupid.

At the end of the day, we're all hurting. Rather than focusing on who has the biggest pain penis, as it were, perhaps we should focus on how to assuage the pain.

However, I still really like the OP. I just think that you've brought up an interesting point as well.

true

you see this almost everywhere


as tho everybody somehow has a leg up on the next person

the really real knowledge

grew up on worse streets

knows what is really really going on


the same way how everybody is a health expert
design expert
listens to the best music
knows how history really went




maybe there is some sort of separation occurring of people who can move past that ego/pride-driven pitfall
neat hell

LHX

Quote from: Discord on June 29, 2007, 10:35:07 PM
"We all live in our own world" Thats a phrase i thought a lot about, and hell yes its correct.
We all live in our own world, our own little cell WE have built. No matter how ridiculous our bars are, they are real - for us.

The homeless person who screams how much pain he has, well in his world he surely is the one with the worst pain. Silly might now come around kick him in his ass and scream "Stop being emo and get a job", even if this is possible for him, it might won't be for the homeless emo.
Its pretty much the core of what i think BIP is, or what BIP is to me.

Also
Quotea chain is as strong as its weakest link
what happens if you shoot the weakest link?
Will the rest be "stronger" or "better" or will the chain fall apart?

the logic seems to dictate that the chain gets stronger

unless it means that you yourself become weaker for having taken out that link
neat hell

The Good Reverend Roger

Fuck poor people.  They didn't earn my money, *I* did.

They already get assistance via my taxes.  I do not begrudge them this, for reasons both moral and pragmatic.

But now I'm being told that I can't have a few toys because someone in Mali is hungry?

Fuck Mali.  Did anyone ever consider that the people making these toys would have NO job if I didn't buy them?

TGRR,
Buying new toys, and not feeling the least bit bad about it.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: LHX on June 24, 2007, 04:40:07 PM


you pull the rug out from under a suburbanite and watch how quick they learn


You pull the rug out from under me, and I'll beat you into a pulp.

Just saying.

TGRR,
Knows the barstool applies to things physical as well as metaphysical.  Ook, ook, bitches!
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LHX

lawls

Rev Rog - the typical american suburbanite



but what if a tornado sweeps the rug out from under you - who to beat then?


--empty room--
neat hell

LHX

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on June 30, 2007, 05:26:11 PM
Fuck poor people.  They didn't earn my money, *I* did.

They already get assistance via my taxes.  I do not begrudge them this, for reasons both moral and pragmatic.

But now I'm being told that I can't have a few toys because someone in Mali is hungry?

Fuck Mali.  Did anyone ever consider that the people making these toys would have NO job if I didn't buy them?

TGRR,
Buying new toys, and not feeling the least bit bad about it.

the title of this post didnt have much to do with the actual post

i dont really have much of a position on whether it is good or whatever to enjoy luxury goods


apologies for the confusion

continue enjoying
neat hell

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: LHX on July 01, 2007, 06:05:25 PM
lawls

Rev Rog - the typical american suburbanite



but what if a tornado sweeps the rug out from under you - who to beat then?


--empty room--

The first reporter that comes along.

Because if there's a tornado in AZ, reporters will be all over the fucking place.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.