e-prime sucks and so do you.

[East Coast Hustle]

I want.

[LMNO]

I thought I sent it to you already.

PM me email addy.

[Rev. T. Lockhart Killjoy]

wtf is it with e-prime?

E-prime can help develop a habit of recognizing that perspective determines meaning - it facilitates understanding in communication.  If you don't want to have clearer communications, or think you can accomplish that habit without using e-prime, or just thrive on the chaos of people who insist on living in neatly packaged worlds of certainly blowing each other's kids up and would rather they not learn to listen to one another, then don't use it.

[AFK]

whut?  And hello. 

[East Coast Hustle]

I thought I sent it to you already.

PM me email addy.

you may have, but it might be on my GF's crashed laptop, or it might have been one of the random odd unrecoverable files on my hard drive.

[LMNO]

sent.

[Rev. T. Lockhart Killjoy]

whut?  And hello. 

Howdy.

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wtf is it with e-prime?

E-prime can help develop a habit of recognizing that perspective determines meaning - it facilitates understanding in communication.  If you don't want to have clearer communications, or think you can accomplish that habit without using e-prime, or just thrive on the chaos of people who insist on living in neatly packaged worlds of certainly blowing each other's kids up and would rather they not learn to listen to one another, then don't use it.

There are a number of valid critiques of E-Prime. It's certainly not the holy grail of communication theory.

One of the major problems with E-Prime is how it limits the range of expression available to an individual.  Most communicative theories work to make MORE options available. To suggest that E-Prime has some ultimate, mystical power on top of it already being a restrictive theory misses the point in a big way.

Watzlawick, Beavin, and Jackson's axioms of communication are widely regarded as basic foundational elements in communication theory and naturally have downsides to them as well.  But one of the main reasons you'll see Watzlawick in communication textbooks and not E-Prime is because the axioms ask you to broaden your perspective rather than narrow it.  This paper does an excellent job of putting it into a context not so different from these forums.

[Rev. T. Lockhart Killjoy]

There are a number of valid critiques of E-Prime. It's certainly not the holy grail of communication theory.

Agreed.

[LHX]

[Jasper]

"until all seem to be one?"

[Triple Zero]

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[Payne]

OFUK! It's Optimus Prime Minister!!!!!1!

[Triple Zero]

[Mangrove]

ok..

e-prime = being excessively picky about what you say to avoid presenting your 'perception' as 'fact'.

o-prime = being an excessively big robot.