People are things

[The Good Reverend Roger]

even the most subhuman filth has some kinda redeeming characteristic.

Bullshit.

even Hitler had an incredible singing voice

That's not a redeeming feature.

[faust]

depends on how hard you are to please.

[Cain]

Reinhard Heydrich was a world class violin player.

He also probably set into motions the events that caused the Holocaust.  A skill is, in and of itself, not a redeemable feature.  It is what you do with it.  Heydrich never became a professional violinist.  Hitler never stuck to painting.

[faust]

true, I retract my point. but as 000 has also said, I have yet to meet a person devoid of any characteristic that makes them irrideemable

[Triple Zero]

well i'm not going to say whether people like Hitler had redeeming qualities or not. all i know is just that i have never personally encountered a person who didn't.

that doesn't mean they don't exist, only that perhaps they're rare. fortunately.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

true, I retract my point. but as 000 has also said, I have yet to meet a person devoid of any characteristic that makes them irrideemable

Maybe you just have really low standards.

[faust]

true, I retract my point. but as 000 has also said, I have yet to meet a person devoid of any characteristic that makes them irrideemable

Maybe you just have really low standards.

could be that or that I have kept crap company all my life and know how to deal with them, my entire fathers side of the family are like that. there are some who have done things that are inexcusable, and they should rot in a cell or something, but both of the ones i am thinking of were very good husbands and very kind to their children.
the only person I have ever met who I have ever thought extermination was a reasonable option was the guy who tried the hatchet on me.

Faust
~low standards, and biased to boot.

[P3nT4gR4m]

The fact that someone can and even does play violin well is not a redeeming feature. Redemption requires that the redeeming features are overwhelming

[Cramulus]

Is it insensitive? yeah. But is that insensitivity rational? sadly, yeah.

I think that getting numb is a logical way to deal with the sick and twisted contemporary culture. We live in a world of glamorized and idealized violence. Every day you see a thousand people you will never meet. Are you supposed to feel empathy for them? I do sometimes. But I can't give change to every destitute beggar. I can't feel sorry for every sick sad person I pass, cell phone pressed to her ear as tears stream down her face.

During Japan's industrialization, a Japanese poet wrote that isolation is just a part of modernity. He thought the crowded Japanese train system was the loneliest place in Japan. "Isn't it ironic that I feel most alone when I'm surrounded by people?"

[Forteetu]

With regards to the following post, I would choose which ever viewpoint most satisfied me at the particular moment:

1. Fuck 'em, they're animals anyway

2. Fuck 'em, it's their karma, let them sort it out

3. Fuck 'em, they didn't give me advance warning so I could order pizza and call a few mates over to watch

[Triple Zero]

do you not have any non-"fuck' em" options?

[Forteetu]

and your point?

[Triple Zero]

no, it was a question. but your answer seems to be "no".

for my point, check any of my earlier posts in this thread.

[Forteetu]

I know, I know ... just wasn't taking it that seriously I guess. I'm all for the open heart approach to people and realising that there is value in any person I encounter if I choose to see it. On the other hand, I tend to opt to not get involved in others' dramas simply for my own personal comfort. If I believe that all the shit that comes my way is all part of the grand awakening, then it is that way for others as well. Let them tend to their own dramas and learn their own lessons.

I thought option #2 was quite balanced, "Fuck 'em, it's their karma, let them sort it out"

[BumWurst]

They're monkeys who've inexplicably learned to dress themselves in grubby sportswear. Hell, I once actually saw one throwing faeces.

I know that the law holds that all men are equal, which is a fine and noble delusion to hold, but some form of social cleansing - alright, alright, genocide - would make my street a nicer place to live...