Credible evidence of Erisian worship in Ancient Greece

[maphdet]

I've never seen Her associated with a hare.
Interesting find Cain!

[rabidpigmy]

Watership Down?

[Cainad (dec.)]

Watership Down?

Bunny wabbits FTW!

[Mother John Frumm]

I think that if Eris worship involved the moon or the night then it could be that the Greeks saw a hare in the patterns on the moon. Also the mother of Eris in some schools of thought is the night or Nyx. That could be why the hare is associated with her, I've seen many depictions of the moon in mythology that coincide with that of a hare. Just a thought. I'm a real dork for mythology   

[B_M_W]

I think that if Eris worship involved the moon or the night then it could be that the Greeks saw a hare in the patterns on the moon. Also the mother of Eris in some schools of thought is the night or Nyx. That could be why the hare is associated with her, I've seen many depictions of the moon in mythology that coincide with that of a hare. Just a thought. I'm a real dork for mythology   

I think it has more to do with the speed and cunning of a hare, as would be in exercises of competition. The reason for the snake is obvious.

[Mother John Frumm]

I'm not doubting that, however in religious context things are rarely obvious. Most gods and goddesses are collections of older gods and goddesses that were absorbed and filtered by time. The Eris of today is not the dame from the Greeks, she has a lot of the same characteristics however people have absorbed and added apocrypha to the canon.
     Often the hare represents fertility, lust and regeneration, the moon is thought to represent most of those same things. It seems very likely that any worship of the night, (Nyx) may have well included Eris in the Chthonic times. The hare could also represent Aphrodite, whom Eris has an indirect relationship with. 
    Aphrodite was a known lover of Ares, Eris associates with him in like interests of war and chaos, or is in some stories his sister. Also in the more well know story of the golden apple, which I will not bother going into, Aphrodite is the "winner" of said apple.
    Eris was also know as Enyo, which is the name of one of the Graeae or the Grey Sisters who were pre-Olympic. She was called "the horror" and "the waster of cities".
     She resembles the Erinyes who were female personifications of vengeance, they were also know to be the children of Nyx. The Erinyes were connected with Nemesis (another child of Nyx and possibly yet another facet of Eris).They were similar to the Gorgons with the depiction of the wings as well as the stance in pottery like this representation of Eris. The Gorgons have an obvious link to the snake too.
    When it comes to the analysis of religions it is rarely cut and dry.


pardon the mental masturbation

   

[rabidpigmy]

 

[B_M_W]

I'm not doubting that, however in religious context things are rarely obvious. Most gods and goddesses are collections of older gods and goddesses that were absorbed and filtered by time. The Eris of today is not the dame from the Greeks, she has a lot of the same characteristics however people have absorbed and added apocrypha to the canon.
     Often the hare represents fertility, lust and regeneration, the moon is thought to represent most of those same things. It seems very likely that any worship of the night, (Nyx) may have well included Eris in the Chthonic times. The hare could also represent Aphrodite, whom Eris has an indirect relationship with. 
    Aphrodite was a known lover of Ares, Eris associates with him in like interests of war and chaos, or is in some stories his sister. Also in the more well know story of the golden apple, which I will not bother going into, Aphrodite is the "winner" of said apple.
    Eris was also know as Enyo, which is the name of one of the Graeae or the Grey Sisters who were pre-Olympic. She was called "the horror" and "the waster of cities".
     She resembles the Erinyes who were female personifications of vengeance, they were also know to be the children of Nyx. The Erinyes were connected with Nemesis (another child of Nyx and possibly yet another facet of Eris).They were similar to the Gorgons with the depiction of the wings as well as the stance in pottery like this representation of Eris. The Gorgons have an obvious link to the snake too.
    When it comes to the analysis of religions it is rarely cut and dry.


pardon the mental masturbation

   

I didn't consider the Gorgon connection. Thanks.

[Cain]

I'm not doubting that, however in religious context things are rarely obvious. Most gods and goddesses are collections of older gods and goddesses that were absorbed and filtered by time. The Eris of today is not the dame from the Greeks, she has a lot of the same characteristics however people have absorbed and added apocrypha to the canon.
     Often the hare represents fertility, lust and regeneration, the moon is thought to represent most of those same things. It seems very likely that any worship of the night, (Nyx) may have well included Eris in the Chthonic times. The hare could also represent Aphrodite, whom Eris has an indirect relationship with. 
    Aphrodite was a known lover of Ares, Eris associates with him in like interests of war and chaos, or is in some stories his sister. Also in the more well know story of the golden apple, which I will not bother going into, Aphrodite is the "winner" of said apple.
    Eris was also know as Enyo, which is the name of one of the Graeae or the Grey Sisters who were pre-Olympic. She was called "the horror" and "the waster of cities".
     She resembles the Erinyes who were female personifications of vengeance, they were also know to be the children of Nyx. The Erinyes were connected with Nemesis (another child of Nyx and possibly yet another facet of Eris).They were similar to the Gorgons with the depiction of the wings as well as the stance in pottery like this representation of Eris. The Gorgons have an obvious link to the snake too.
    When it comes to the analysis of religions it is rarely cut and dry.


pardon the mental masturbation

   

Interesting stuff.  The link between hare and moon is somewhat weak, but no more so than any other conclusions you would draw from this, so I am willing to roll with it for now.

And yes, there is a definite Eris/Aphrodite connection.  The strife of love is a common theme in Greek mythology (I can only think of one happy marriage, that of Odysseus and Penelope), also Aphrodite is said to have a dual nature: she can be moderate and calm or wild and passionate.  Rather like Eris can be competitive or destructive.  The Iphigeneia at Aulis makes the connection explicit with this phrase concerning the Judgement of Paris:

Eros you imparted, by eros you were overwhelmed.
Hence Eris, Eris brings Greece with men and ships
to the citadel of Troy.

[B_M_W]

by love you were imparted and overwhelmed, thus by strife you war.

cool.

[hooplala]

I've never seen Her associated with a hare.
Interesting find Cain!

I can't believe nobody has put this connection together yet . . .

[Triple Zero]

sorry to spoil the fun, but isn't that reference just something RAW made up to connect shoggoths with bugs bunny and the Illuminatus?

[Cain]

Yes.

I was also going to point out he was a wascally wabbit, but in fact he was originally drawn as a hare.

[hooplala]

sorry to spoil the fun, but isn't that reference just something RAW made up to connect shoggoths with bugs bunny and the Illuminatus?

Your point?

[hooplala]

Hoops, it looks like it's both native to Europe, and more shrub-like, so I'm guessing it's not that easy to find. 

That's what I suspected.  Even if I went to Europe I doubt I'd be able to differentiate from any other plant.  They all look alike to me . . . I know, I know, it isn't PC of me to admit that, but its true.  I'm a Chlorophyll Nazi.

Hey Cain, I think they have Blackthorn in England and Scotland, no?  Care to send me some?