Recruiting the unrecruited

[hunter s.durden]

i will shamelessly turn this thread into my graphic design resume'.

So much awesome...

[Cain]

i will shamelessly turn this thread into my graphic design resume'.

Full of win.

[Triple Zero]

Well, with Bob's experiments, the key seems to have been shock (no matter how its achieved), consider the sex scenes in Illuminatus!, or the Rehnquist in Schrodinger's Cat. In Masks of The Illuminati, he has some great examples of attacking someone's first circuit. There are examples of Bob attacking the reader via the way he laid out the story (bouncing between Einstein/Rational POV, Joyce/Absurd POV, Crowley/Trickster POV etc.) and of Crowley attacking the first circuit of Sir John Babcock through scaring the shit out of him at every opportunity.

So I think you're right, Cain,  shocking or tricking a sufficiently embedded (believed/ingrained/brainwashed/etc) existing program may provide an opportunity to inject a new idea.

ok maybe i'm strange, but. i thought the sex scenes in I3 werent shocking at all. they were kinky, and some of them were even arousing.
then (and this happens more in schroedingers cat, right) bouncing between einstein/rational, joyce/absurd and crowley/trickster. what effect should this have had at me? i was just coming off the rational POV when i read these things, i read it and i wondered "dunno if he's really right, or if these are in fact the latest theories", the joyce/absurd i think although i never read any joyce i've been familiar with all my life, it's in my nature and the crowley/trickster stuff was major interesting cause that was the stuff i was looking actively into in that period of my life.
was this supposed to overload me in some way? cause all it did was 1) skeptic 2) amusement/familiarity and 3) interest/curiosity

no mix, no collision, just, yeah, like a balanced salad of ideas?

[Cain]

Well, you have to take account cultural shift, and that you live in a country where window shopping can become a pornographic experience, at least for Illuminatus!.

[Triple Zero]

Well, you have to take account cultural shift, and that you live in a country where window shopping can become a pornographic experience, at least for Illuminatus!.

well let that be a lesson to all those who want to come to dutchland: you're gonna be too jaded and miss out on all the mindfuckery.

pfffrt.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Well, you have to take account cultural shift, and that you live in a country where window shopping can become a pornographic experience, at least for Illuminatus!.

well let that be a lesson to all those who want to come to dutchland: you're gonna be too jaded and miss out on all the mindfuckery.

pfffrt.

Or a lesson that we need to consider the social programming of the audience when creating our own mindfucks

[LMNO]

Count me in on the I3 not really "overloading" my brain.

If you want to get a new idea into my head, what usually works is telling me the new idea with credible support to your point.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Count me in on the I3 not really "overloading" my brain.

If you want to get a new idea into my head, what usually works is telling me the new idea with credible support to your point.

LOL thats debate and reasoning, not brain hacking.

Also, I've come to the opinion that I! does a great job of pulling people out of some kinds of reality tunnels, particularly ones that involve a strong Christian background. When I read I! I was shocked by the sex... I was more shocked by the writing style, but my previous reality tunnel had been somewhat innocent of sex.

[East Coast Hustle]

I gotta admit, as much as I slag on it now, Illuminatus! really blew open my brain gaskets the first time I read it.

[Triple Zero]

well it did *something* to me

first of course i was seeing 23s and eyes and pyramids EVERYwhere

it also happened to be a collection of a zillion stuff and things i had been researching on my own, and then some more i didnt know of. which totally weirded me out, as if someone had been reading my mind and private thoughts (of course the real reason was the other way around)

and the fact that there were apparently more people heaping all these subjects together, caused me to find this nice little community here. otherwise my interest in discordianism would have never been resparked and i wouldn't have googles "discordian forum".

oh and also, since i wondered which parts of the conspiracy story were true and which were fiction, i picked one fact to check semi-random, which happened to be the tarot references and so i bought a tarot deck and started reading about it.

that's what the I3 did for me.

not so much the shocking sex scenes (really, the dutch literature kids are supposed to read in their highschool final year is a lot worse), but a mindfuck nonetheless.

[Cain]

So the blend of what seemed like real information and disinformation....interesting.

Anyway, the next step would be to catalogue all sites where there are multiple Discordians, as well as individual bloggers.  Obviously I can think of 6 or 7 of these sites off the top of my head.  The step after that is to either infiltrate, or make assess.  The latter being an option only when the former is impossible.  Then, after a short time, just long enough for you to be accepted while having shook the place up a bit, make your pitch.

[Cain]

Well, this idea is fucking dead.

I knew all that work would be for nothing.  Thanks a lot guys, you really helped out there!

[Cainad (dec.)]

Well, this idea is fucking dead.

I knew all that work would be for nothing.  Thanks a lot guys, you really helped out there!

So quit working so fucking hard, god damn it.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Well, this idea is fucking dead.

I knew all that work would be for nothing.  Thanks a lot guys, you really helped out there!

What idea is dead?

[Cain]

http://dolphin.esosoft.net/erisbarandgrill.com/forum/index.php - Eris Bar and Grill
http://www.poee.co.uk/boards/ - POEE UK
http://lurkingrhythmically.blogspot.com/ - Discordian blogger, routinely gets several replies per entry
http://singlenesia.com/news/ - Discordian New Network
http://www.thebeak.org/ - Discordian/political blog/online zine
http://tcsf.blogdrive.com/ - Subgenii/Discordian blogger, several readers
http://uncannilyobvious.blogspot.com/ - same as above
http://deoxy.org/index.htm - possible recruitment area
http://groups.myspace.com/eris - probably 20+ active members
http://groups.myspace.com/discordianism - as above
http://groups.myspace.com/santarchists - possible recruitment ground
http://groups.myspace.com/discordians - fewer members than the others, but still 200 profiles on the member roll
http://standrews.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2204727328 (link probably wont work, put Discordian in the search engine on site) - Largest Discordian group on Facebook, roughly 1500 members.
32 other groups on Facebook, at least 10 of which have 80 odd members.
http://www.colboard.com/ and the 100,000 for Stephen Colbert group on Facebook
http://www.venganza.org/forum/index.php Yes, they're fuckwits, but...

And that's just a cursory look through my links.